Its very hard to RP anything in this game...

You could consider the crazy assassin character from that "DaVinci Code" movie a paladin... but that's not what the OP means.

The men in ancient days were not all the perfect knights they pretended to be, but we don`t know for sure if they were all bad. I`ve read of the odd noble knight that actually cared about his peasants.

Point is it`s impossible to be a pure Paladin in Skyrim.

I believe the point is you CAN RP a paladin in this game. Just because you claim your slain opponents gear doesn't make you unpure. There are SOOOO many "evil" things you can kill in this game. Also, things that were never alive in the first place *cough* dwemer creations. So your telling me that a paladin can't make a living in skyrim? With the ammount of bandits roaming around that kill anything and everything they see on sight, if I were a paladin, id consider it a favor killing every bandit I saw, for revenge for those they killed.

Being a paladin in real life is hard too.

"Interesting" interpretation of Paladin you've got.


edit: seriously, I'd think that the style of Paladin you're going for is only really possible if you've got a game world that includes an established and militant church supporting him. Otherwise, where does he get the resources for shiny expensive full plate armor, horse, food, upkeep, etc; if there isn't a church organization paying for all his stuff?

Do you know what a Paladin actually is?

Obviosly not since you`re coming out with complete rubbish.

Stay off the beer when you post in future.

Since we're talking personal views of paladins, here's mine?

A warrior
Rigid code of conduct
Magic

Am I wrong yet?

How is it Rubbish when in MANY other roleplaying games, a paladin can sell his war spoils and not be considered a money-grubbing ass? What your saying is a complete lack of thinking outside the box.

Beer? I don't drink. Your just an over pretentious angry nerd, if your really complaining about how you can't roleplay in skyrim go play some D&D or something or another game in which you can get your better roleplaying experience... or was that too thinking outside of the box for you?

Just pretend.

Frsrs this game gives you a LOT to work with, your imagination is the limit good sir, not the game.

A "real" paladin would never buy food or provisions for a trip? I'm just not buying that one...

Skyrim is a dog eat dog world. Really hard for a lawful good character to survive here.

I'd pat you on the back all day, but wisdom is wisdom.

D & D alignment system has no place in TES.

Defintion of Paladin: Knights of the Holy Order.

Anything close to that definition in game are the VOS, and they aren't a joinable faction. It would've been interesting to have dadra hunting quest associated with this faction with it's own rewards, but they are only comparable to the regulators in Fallout 3.

...I don't see it as very hard at all. Argonians are lizards... they are closer to dragons than the races of man or mer.

Also, if your playing a Gallahad-like character, it isn't that hard... now your forced to do things that make your life overly difficult... but thats kinda part of the point. You cannot loot corpses seems a bit odd.

Your point is that your wanting to play a warrior with a code related to some divine origin... that is all well and good. If your goal is to live a selfles life limiting your ability to collect money is good... but in reality how would you be collecting money? If you refuse to accept the ill gotten gains of evil men to support your quest... then explain how a speech check would get you anything? Instead your begging? Okay, tell me now how cutting wood and making goods to sell wouldn't be within your purview if the good were such that they would be used for good purposes. Just don't make poisons or something. Or maybe you SHOULD buy poisons just to get rid of them so they wont be used on other people.

Also the war involved is not one of religion vs religion. Eventhough the uprising seems to point to the banning of worship of Talos, I think they are generally discontent at the Empire for not being able to defeat the Thalmor and see this as an opportunity for Nord Independent State of Skyrim. If the Aldermeri Dominion could do it, why can't the Nords? So Paladin Build doesn't really have a role to play within the boundaries of the Skyrim Plot.

Hmm yeah, Angel works. Herc is kinda goody, compared to Xena.

I like playing characters like this. In one playthrough even. Y'know, like start off in a thieves guild, then maybe the character gets their head out of their butt and does the main quest. I think here, joining the companions kind of has a redemptive angle, if you so choose.

One character of mine has treated Mjoll the Lioness kind of crappy, but ends up helping. She's the closest to a good adventurer NPC as the game gets imo.

I find roleplaying a character all fine and dandy, but when the game goes out of it's way to make a character HAVE to do a certain act, it stops being an open game. The quest that bothers me the most is the one in the main quest that essentially requires you to be "sneaky". A paladin would have found a more direct route... even a violent one... to get the information needed.

Even a paladin knows when some things are necessary. Not all of them are Leeroy Jenkins.

If you think about actual knights, they were like any other warrior, who scouted and surveyed areas.

I think it's still possible to be Lawful Good in Skyrim, the tough part is in accepting that things aren't going to go the way you want them to most of the time. It's a dark world built towards morally grey characters, and in playing a strictly good-aligned character like a Paladin you're going to see some dilemmas.

Point is, you must constantly try to obey the laws and promote good whenever possible, try to make the best out of all situations. In the end, Lawful Good is an idealistic alignment, you do the best you can for the world, even if things don't turn out well (especially so in a gritty world like Skyrim).

The true problems arise when you are forced to make choices and aren't given enough options when there should logically be others, which is Bethesda's fault. Those situations are unfortunate and jarring, and you may have to RP praying to your patron for atonement, but thankfully they aren't overwhelmingly numerous.

Honestly, I don't even think TES is that gritty. Just on the side of realistic (as far regular interactions and basic gist of some quests go.. Of course, Daedra and such aren't realistic). It's not the game world's problem as it is the idealism of a Paladin. Paladins can't survive in this world either. Idealism is for Prince Valiant cartoon strips.

I could have sworn my old post said so, oh well--
But yes, looking at Skyrim's possible inspirations: Conan; Song of Ice and Fire (ex, game of thrones). The protagonists, if any, turn out to be antiheroes. Something making them not-so-idealistic-or-successful plotwise. Unfortunately, I haven't yet touched that stack of SongIceFire paperbacks. As for Conan, total antihero.

Paladins come off to me as idealistic. In a bit grittier universe, I'd view them as Templar; they're either misguided or not strong enough to stand up against bad authority.

Then again, I like Imperial Knights/paladins/saders. I dunno



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So let me get this straight.

A lot of you feel a "Paladin" is a holy warrior that cannot do anything but the classical interpretation of "good" even when there is no cut and dry answer to a situation?

Pardon me, but it seems that you have become quite accustomed to RPGs that give your character a very unfair advanatge in that there is a clear-cut classical "good path" you can blindly follow without giving a second thought to your motivations. that's rather boring and very unrealistic. That character would be afraid to sit down for fear he might squash a bug that had a right to live.

Motivation for the character's actions completely aside, your Paladins can easily atone for any "less than good" situations that are out of his or her control that he or she falls prey to- conduct a pilgrimage to the shrines of the Divines and give up worldy goods attained as offerings. If your paladin talks the talk, he needs to walk the walk too. It turns out that the path of goodly righteousness, humility, charity, and self-denial is fairly difficult. Who knew?

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