ok, What is happening in Zenimax in this precise moment? : Othor Games

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:10 pm

I love it when people cite logical fallacies when they can't actually continue debating. Because of course the only answer has to be that this was a corporate suit decision. Forgive me for not being so narrow minded.

I can keep debating, I just don't bother with fallacious arguments. Try again please.

How are you paying for this?

ZeniMax Media recently announced a http://www.zenimax.com/news_pressrelease10.25.07.htm, and of course the massive success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 only adds to the assets that helped fund ZeniMax Online. Suffice it to say, we're covered.

http://www.zenimaxonline.com/faq.html

Ouch. Can't determine how much of that investment is being put purely into development of the software and how much is being put just towards servers and initial operating costs just by that statement, though.

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:49 pm

Right now, the folks at Zenimax are probably scared out of their minds thinking that they've spent years working on a flop, while Pete Hines over at Bethesda Softworks is probably equal parts pissed off and equal parts desperately trying to figure out how to get this [censored]-storm under control.

this.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:10 am

I can keep debating, I just don't bother with fallacious arguments. Try again please.

Ouch. Can't determine how much of that investment is being put purely into development of the software and how much is being put just towards servers and initial operating costs just by that statement, though.

>Makes an assumption
>Claims other people are using logical fallacies

I'm glad assumptions are allowed at least. So... I guess I'll assume that corporate suits didn't push ZMOnline to make TESO, so since I'm making an assumption, I guess I'm good for this debate, right?

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:39 pm

>Makes an assumption
>Claims other people are using logical fallacies

I'm glad assumptions are allowed at least. So... I guess I'll assume that corporate suits didn't push ZMOnline to make TESO, so since I'm making an assumption, I guess I'm good for this debate, right?

Logic has no place on these boards!

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:15 am

Sorry dude, but if you think any mmo has better combat than skyrim, you might have a very bad taste for it.
Hotbar based combat would never work in a TES game, neither skill-tree would do.

i have wonderful taste thanks, i play mount and blade religiously, i play skyrim with dukepatricks. i just dont think vanilla skyrim combat is conducive to a hardcoe competitive mmo because its really simple.
like i said, daggerfall had the best combat in tes.

gameplay is not why i enjoy the series. if that were the case i would have killed myself in the vanilla morrowind years.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:23 am

Hotbar based combat would never work? Um......TESO is TES and has hotbar combat.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:37 am

Hotbar based combat would never work? Um......TESO is TES and has hotbar combat.

It's odd that people are so against Hot Bar combat considering that TES uses Quick Keys...

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:49 pm

It's odd that people are so against Hot Bar combat considering that TES uses Quick Keys...

now if those quick keys could only activate your heal spell for you

dragon shouts are a cooldown, if you could activate them by hotkey giving them individual cooldowns instead of a global one...you would have an mmo style dovahkiin.

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:30 am

now if those quick keys could only activate your heal spell for you :biggrin:

dragon shouts are a cooldown, if you could activate them by hotkey giving them individual cooldowns instead of a global one...you would have an mmo style dovahkiin.

Oh, forgot to mention that.

>People being against Hot Key combat.
>Dragon Shouts are Hot Key combat.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:15 pm

i have been asking myself this since the reveal.
i see alot of people who are angry, but im mostly on the fence with an eye towards being hopeful.
i read the article, i see some comparisons to the single player tes games. but others see too many comparisons to world of warcraft, because thats the only mmo they can relate to :/

I saw the game informer article, the screen shots the gameplay, it all looks so familier... It looks like world of warcraft not elder scrolls.
If your are going to make a game like the elder scrolls into an mmo then make it play like the elder scrolls now world of warcraft.
bethesda needs to slap zenimax(Its little sister) in the face for [censored]ing her self out like this.

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:56 am

Logic has no place on these boards! :wink:

Neither is civility in some cases, not that I'm referring to you.

Anyway, I'm not excited about TES: Online, but I'll not predict doom and gloom until it comes out. The series has had nothing but successes since Morrowind (three Games of the Year in a row), so I doubt this will sink the franchise if it goes south. I'm just glad Bethesda isn't directly involved in it. If Zenimax goes down, they can find another publisher or start self publishing.