Who are your favorite followers?

Post » Mon May 21, 2012 2:23 am

EDIT: The mod is now available http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=7245

Yes, this is mod related. I've put together a mod that gives followers unique talents to use in battle. I don't plan to include every last one, so I'd like to know who everyone's favorite followers are.

I've finished the followering already:
Aranea Ienith
Belrand
Brelyna Maryon
Eola
Erandur
Faendal
J'zargo
Jenassa
Marcurio
Onmund
Stenvar
Sven
Vilkas
Vorstag


I have plans to also include Aela the Huntress, Derkeethus, and Mjoll the Lioness. If there are any others you like who aren't on this list, let me know and I'l consider adding them. So far, I plan for a release of this sometime today or tomorrow. Aela, Derkeethus, Mjoll, and any suggestions I recieve here may not be ready for the initial release, but will be added later. Specifically, I'd like access to the Creation Kit so I have better tools.
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Natalie Harvey
 
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 10:57 pm

I found Mjoll quite adorable. Didn't really like men being my silent and opinion-less packrats so I sticked to Mjoll whose charm made up a bit for being a tag-along.

Still, I'm waiting for some sensible romance/follower mod to come out as this still wasn't a satisfying experience :<
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Marcia Renton
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 1:31 am

Aw, you forgot all about my loyal man Benor, the unemployed guard lieutentant from Morthal.
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Portions
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 6:51 am

Lydia, I guess, although after one character who had her tag along all the time, I think I'm off companions until the pathfinding is significantly improved by some mod or patch. You're pretty much forced to stay on roads or fast travel with companions :(

But those talents sure look great. :)
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Brandi Norton
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 5:30 am

Oh, right. I forgot to mention the Housecarls. Yeah, they're all done. They can trip enemies with bashing and revive dying allies.

I'll consider Benor. I'm not familiar with his personality though, so I don't know what would be fitting to give him.
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Louise Lowe
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 7:51 am


I'll consider Benor. I'm not familiar with his personality though, so I don't know what would be fitting to give him.

If it helps at all you have to beat him up in a fist fight to gain his friendship. After that he offers to join you.
Specialties - two-handed, heavy armour, block and archery. He's very similar to Stenvar in Windhelm
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Amanda Leis
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 12:43 am

I take Illia everywhere, she is a mage that can be found in Darklight Tower in the Rift. SHe uses ice, fire and heals
plus I modded her in npc_editor so she can also be a ranger, give her a daedric bow and she will use it at range.

Also she has these funky eyebrows, and reminds me a little bit of Morrigan from DA:Origins

[img]http://www.ukgangsters.com/images/illia1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.ukgangsters.com/images/illia2.jpg[/img]
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Carolyne Bolt
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 12:29 am

So far, I've covered 15 males and 9 females. The racial breakdown is:
Nord 15
Dunmer 4
Argonian 1
Breton 1
Bosmer 1
Khajiit 1
Imperial 1

I'd like to try to get some others added in. There are no Altmer companions, so I can't add them. Ahtar is the only Redguard, so I may just add him even though no one has requested him. The orcs still need at least some representation. There are five orc followers. Surely somebody uses at least one of them regularly?
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 12:22 am

So far, I've covered 15 males and 9 females. The racial breakdown is:
Nord 15
Dunmer 4
Argonian 1
Breton 1
Bosmer 1
Khajiit 1
Imperial 1

I'd like to try to get some others added in. There are no Altmer companions, so I can't add them. Ahtar is the only Redguard, so I may just add him even though no one has requested him. The orcs still need at least some representation. There are five orc followers. Surely somebody uses at least one of them regularly?
I do! But i'm blanking on her name right now...
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 9:48 pm

I still haven't used a follower, and probably won't. I might try them all out eventually, though.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 11:19 pm

I do! But i'm blanking on her name right now...

Well, the two women are http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Borgakh_the_Steel_Heart and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ugor.
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Anna Watts
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 7:04 am

I use Borgakh.
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Andrew Tarango
 
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 1:49 am

Nice, I like the idea of unique talents! It gives the followers a bit more personality, makes using them more interesting.

As you might guess from my signature, Aela the Huntress is my favorite so far--although admitedly that's based more on her personality before she becomes a follower than because she's anything special as a follower.

One of the tactics toggles I plan to add to her in http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1336512-wipwipz-enhanced-skyrim-followers-aela-the-huntress-of-the-companions/ is the ability to tell her to use her werewolf form instead of a melee weapon when it is safe to do so; also, I'd like to make her transform when the PC does. So our mods may conflict, but conceptually we're on the same page.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 5:19 pm

Borgakh has been added. I've slightly switched her class (she inexplicably had increasing magicka instead of stamina, plus the archery skill didn't fit her), but so far given her no new perks. I like the quote the UESP page has for her to say if you use healing magic on her. Perhaps a boost to passive regeneration would be cool? She also should probably have a power similar to Berserker Rage.

About Aela, I have a working spell that she'll use when low on health to transform, but as I noted on the page, it never wore off. I plan on instead making it into a perk that automatically activates when she's low on health, probably with a cooldown on it. Having perks automatically slap spells on targets gives me a ton more control over their use, so you'll see I did that with a lot of things.



Some things I didn't though. For an example, Jenassa will use Letter From a Thief all by herself when she's wounded. Normally she's an extremely quick killer, but when wounded, she turns into a guerilla fighter, flitting in and out of invisibility to cut things without getting attacked. It's pretty cool to watch and it works great with the AI controlling it rather than some preset conditions on a perk.

If you do want to make things the AI will use, you need to stick a few tricks on them. To get followers to use spells at the start of battle, stick an armor effect on it. It doesn't matter the magnitude, just put it on and the AI will use it whenever it can in battles. To get things to be used when wounded, throw on a healing effect. This works for magicka and stamina too. I was able to get Belrand to use Rowell's Spell when low on magicka by sticking a magicka recovery effect on it (although it also constantly drains magicka to prevent casting while it's active). There are a host of tricks you can do to make sure the AI will actually use things.

Oh, and none of those tricks work for two-handed weapon users. That was terribly frustrating, but two-handed weapon users seem to really like their weapons and refuse to cast anything. You also need to be aware of the Combat Style of the NPC you're designing things for. Nearly everyone will cast spell effects, but some combat styles favor using them more frequently. Sven, for example, will pretty much never use his bow now that I've given him his spells. He now favors using spells until magicka runs out, then charging in with a melee weapon. Another example is Jenassa. Her combat style makes her really want to dual wield, something that most followers won't do at all.



I don't know if my rambling advice has helped you at all, but maybe it will. I learned a lot about forcing the AI to actually use things from testing it, so I hope that can help others too.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 7:50 pm

That is indeed all useful information, thanks for sharing it!
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 2:44 am

What about Cicero? Need a good purely-stealth character in there, too.

Maybe something that increases his attack speed? He's described as being a little whirlwind in combat. And perhaps he can feign injury, or his durability increases as his health goes down? He seems pretty beat up during "The Cure for Madness", and he no doubt is injured, but he'll still get to his feet.

Oh, and it looks like you've increased the follower max levels. That's fine, but it'll make them immune to the Disarm shout used by Draugr (in fact, the Draugr will simply cease using it altogether).
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 4:35 am

I had concidered Cicero. Something I had planned for him if included was allowing him a chance to briefly turn ethereal when attacked in melee combat (perhaps a 10% chance for 1 second invincibility). That would be pretty easy to make and cool to see. He seems to love knives, so some kind of bonus for using daggers might work too.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 9:14 am

I think some NPCs already have built-in perks. I recall Irileth having a list of perks she had on UESP.

EDIT: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Irileth
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 9:59 pm

Yeah they do, and many of the followers have perks. For the most part I haven't messed with these, only adding to them. I did take Onmund's Augment Shock 1, though. He no longer specializes in any element. Some followers also lost spells, especially if those spells overlapped (Brelyna's new spells replace her old healing and warding, for example).




There are three base IDs for Cicero. None of them have the follower faction, so that must get applied to him later by script. This means I'm really not sure which base ID is the one that's used by the Cicero you can recruit. I think it's 0009BCAF, but I'm not sure. Does anyone know this for sure?
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 7:23 am

"Cicero" is the normal Cicero, interacted with from the time he arrives in the Sanctuary until "The Cure for Madness." "CiceroRoad" is the one used for "Delayed Burial." "CiceroDawnstar" is the follower -- the Dark Brotherhood followers don't use the normal follower aliases for following (they also use a different recruiting topic) and so he's not in the faction. It's actually possible to tab out of his lengthy farewell once he's ordered to leave, recruit a normal follower, and then recruit Cicero along with another follower.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 7:49 am

I found Mjoll quite adorable. Didn't really like men being my silent and opinion-less packrats so I sticked to Mjoll whose charm made up a bit for being a tag-along.
She was charming until she kept constantly talking over everyone during the peace negotiations at High Hrothgar. Now I want to shoot myself every time she tells me how much she misses her father for the 20th time that day.

Aw, you forgot all about my loyal man Benor, the unemployed guard lieutentant from Morthal.
Hey, I like Benor too! There's something refreshingly honest about a guy that likes you just because you're stronger than him. Even if it is a tad disturbing. Also he's not an unemployed guard, he's a rejected guard. He wants to join up but they won't take him. Probably because he likes to go around picking fights with strangers. Kind of weird that he sleeps in the barracks even though they won't let him join, makes me wonder if they found him sleeping on the porch and just let him in because he wouldn't go away. :biggrin:
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 6:56 am

Thanks. CiceroDawnstar (0009BCAF) is the one I thought was right, but having confirmation on that saves me some time.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 11:45 pm

There is http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Kharjo Decent one handed warrior and another Khajiit follower. The quest to make him a follower was a hoot as well.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 2:14 am

The quest to make him a follower was a hoot as well.
Eh? :ermm: He is a good follower though.
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Post » Sun May 20, 2012 10:21 pm

Eh? :ermm: He is a good follower though.

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I got a good laugh out of the blind doorman and his "journal"

I just saw that his quest takes you to a random dungeon so YMMV. Thought that one was a fixed location.
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