You don't need the internet to run Steam. Set it to offline mode for Gods sake. Please look it up before spreading false rumors.

Steam is a great way to acquire games digitally and a good DRM. I wish we had even more games on Steam. Much better then Origins.

Not that hard apparently, I'll try that immediately. I'm so pissed at steam I can't even make myself spend time figuring it out.

Just try another download location. I heard that greece is very fast these days since they get their version in about 2 weeks.

You can change the download location in the settings menu at this location:

http://multi-players-zone.com/serversfilterthem.jpg

Steam is miles better then GWFL and Securom which is what DRM would be in place if they didn't go through them.

If you want games without DRM go play some indie titles.

You don't need internet to play single player games on Steam. You need internet to activate single player games on steam.

The ACTIVATION is not the problem. The problem is that Steam is like having a pumkin shoved up your ass.

- Steam crashes or it gets busy. Often.
- It installs itself - and games - to C: or the systemdrive (i just LOVE this on my 40G SSD!!)
- When a failed install occur on the DVD, it DOWNLOAD the game from Steam - I mean W*T*F ?
- The (offline) installation gets stopped because the damn game wants to go online for some unknown and probably [censored] reason - Voila' "Steam is busy!" = CRASH.
- It validates itself and it's cache files for no obvious point. I havent ASKED it to do this.
- It patches itself, and looks for patches for ALL games, if you JUST want to activate a game, it will begin to patch all others and makes all games unplayable untill they are patched.
- Steam and others like it get owned and you risk loosing your purchased games. Thank you SOO much.
- Changing a password is a PITA, the Steam GUI was designed by an insane people hater.
- There is a selection for you to SKIP patches, but you are not allowed to choose anything else than "keep my game updated"
- Once steam is busy, you are SOL.


Now, if Steam ONLY was about activation i'd be happy as [censored], but WHY do i have to put up with all this [censored]?

STEAM IS MORE DISRUPTIVE TO ME THAN ANY COMPUTER VIRUS I'VE ENCOUNTERED IN MY 3 DECADES OF LIFE!

Amen. Couldn't have put it better myself.

I've seen worse viruses. I've not seen a worse way to install a single player game.

Steam make pirates cry.

its been said that active internet connection is required to activate the game. if then you want to leave with your laptop and steam on it, just make sure you activated offline mode. nothing that hard. there are also not so legal ways of doing it, but i wont risk my forum account by saying what.

Have you EVER installed a game from DVD that require Steam? No? Then stop fan-boy crying that people are spreading rumors about your precious nazi software!

People are having GENUINE problems with steam that comes from the fact that it is a horrible piece of software that was ment to be an online store and not an activation tool for people who purchase the game on DVD.

I've never had an issue w/Steam. Been using it since it's inception.

Steam is fine. It's made by Valve, the creators of Half Life. It's a fine way to have all your games able to be played from any computer on Earth you find yourself on. It's not just some 3rd party advertising gimmick. It's a triple AAA service that's been around since 2004.

1. No it doesn't? It's as stable as can be for most people. I've used it since 2004 and haven't had a single problem.
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3. You can stop the download anytime you wish.
4. To activate it?
5. It's making sure the game is correct before starting it? Would you rather have something unlaunchable?
5. You can disable patching.
7. You don't risk losing your games? Gabe Newell said that he'd do everything in his power to release them DRM-free if such happened, which it never will.
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9. You can disable patching.
10. Or you can just restart Steam/your computer and get on with it.

Does it ? Cause I wanted to buy the game from Steam. And guess what. I can't. It's not available on Steam in my country (Czech Republic). And crying pirates ? They play happily without Steam, first cracks showed up day before official release. So much for DRM.

you cant desactivate the auto-patching on the games you dont want to play. i never had problems installing a game when steam was down for maintenance, steam NEVER crashed on me and its in the contract that if steam ever closes (which wont happen in a near future) Valve will give you all the games you had on your account. it has just not been said if they will pass it to another digital distributor or something else.

I have an estranged daughter from a previous relationship. She is 10. I often gift her games through Steam. She has no problems using it. I repeat she is 10.

That is all I have to say on the subject.

Why would I wan't to play Skyrim anywhere in the World but at my specifically designated gaming station, in my home? It's not like I go on vacation in Bahamas and go "Oh, hey, a computer, let me play some Skyrim instead of water skiing!" Absolutely useless "feature".

Useless for you. But for business folks and people who travel for a living, it is a damn fine feature to have.

Neither have I or the 100 people on my friends list. People need to complain about something, and since the game is superb they gotta find something else. And it's usually stupid [censored] like they bring up.

It's usually the same idiots who have no idea how drm or software works.

Tears of joy perhaps !! -- You do realize that Skyrim was already up and running for them within an hour of the Aussies reaching the Steam unlock time -- so about 20 hours before most of us could get it to even attempt to activate - they had the game cracked and working without the need to have STEAM running in the background or even installed on their Systems Meanwhile the Paying customers that support Beth have to wait for Steam to unlock in their area and then continually try to actually connect to a steam server to install and activate their DVD content - And then if you do not go through even more steps the DVD install starts Downloading the entire 5GBs of DVD content from the stupid Server (defeating the purpose of buying the disk and raking up Over Cap charges for those on limited plans) It's no wonder the servers are "Busy when even the retail buying publc is on them trying to download 5GB+ of content that is already sitting on a disk in their HDD !

1. No, it crash and misbehave.
2. No, it NEVER offered me a choise where to install Skyrim
3. And what, genius, do you think happens when i restart setup.exe on the DVD?
4. You read it.
5. No you cannot. The setting is LOCKED.
6. I rather have a working game that i could play. If there is a problem i have a DVD that i can reinstall from instead of Steam using up my monthly 4G bandwitdh quota.
7. You don't risk loosing your account because of criminals breaking into steam and stealing your credentials? Great, we're in fantasy land!!
8. So i'm an idiot because the GUI is [censored] and changing the password is hard? Do you want to have a forum vote on what you just said?
9. Again...
10. too pointless to comment on.


People on forums... "Oh, it works for me".

All these steps to got through. I have to admit I'm pretty nervous about insatlation even now. I have a disk so I have to follw special instructions or it won't install form the disk. special steps to kepp it offline etc.. There are answers to every problem but Its vexing we have to go through the hoops and rely on steams good will and functioning correctly and servers not being clogged etc for a non internet single player game. Hopefully my own instal will go more eeasily Maybe my PC being delayed arriving is a blessing in diguise.

Still this will be the first TES game since Redguard I haven't played on release day.