Witcher 3, savior of TES?

Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:00 am

And I really want to believe that they will. I admit I have my doubts but then CDPR seem so excited about it that I end up thinking that they can make it work. I enjoyed the witcher because of its story and characters. If they can add open-world on top of that, then I'm sold.
I agree, at the same time, I don't want to blindly believe every single thing that CDPR says either. No developer is going to come through with every single one of their promises 100%.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:18 am

I chose:
They don't need to step their game up

Because they really don't. Skyrim was seen as a huge success. Big in almost every sense of the word.I think they've struck a nice balance between complexity and playability. Personally, I'm not convinced what "fans" (this needs to be better defined, it's never defined who these fans are) think is best is what is best for a developer economically. Sometimes making content more accessible is a good thing. Everyone loves the buzz word "hand holding" but honestly, it's just gamers trying to have fun. Not this concerted conspiratorial effort by people to dumb down games... (whatever the hell that means..."dumb down" is another forum buzz word too. It's all relative when it comes to difficulty one mans challenge is anothers "dumb down". Personally I'm tired of the hype machine. Release the game, and then consumer will respond. By promising all kinds of nonsense I think they set themselves up for failure. Because then players point at a video or interview where they said they would do something and now it's not there... and then it bogs down forums and everyone talk about how much was cut out for "casuals"... it's all so tedious. Competition is good, but in all likelyhood if both series are good, any gamer worth his salt will just own both series....
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:12 pm

CDPR even said that, even though they are going for a open-world design, they still want to keep the deep and complex narrative and characters. It's completely possible to do both.
Not unless they pull tons of cheap tactics like as I mentioned before.

The inherant problem of open world game design is that unless you pause time, the game isnt fair for people.

No one like being told "well, we made it to where all the villiages could be destroyed by something, and then made it to where it can just happen as part of the game world, and becuase of that, its entierly possible that, due to no fault of your own, an entire villiage could be destroyed, and you now have to suffer the consqeunces of actions that wernt your fault to begin with".

Its the same reason why Dragons can't actually destroy towns and stuff in Skyrim to force people to pay attention to the MQ, its just not fair, or fun, and the game that do try [censored] like that, see Dead Risigin 2, have that stuff become one of the game's most hated features.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:31 pm

I agree, at the same time, I don't want to blindly believe every single thing that CDPR says either. No developer is going to come through with every single one of their promises 100%.
Beth usually does (Though the sim relationship didin't make it in :( ) The worst offender however is that damm Moleyux...
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:58 am

I agree, at the same time, I don't want to blindly believe every single thing that CDPR says either. No developer is going to come through with every single one of their promises 100%.
True, but its still interesting to see how this works out. Its coming out in 2014 right?
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:38 pm

Not unless they pull tons of cheap tactics like as I mentioned before.

The inherant problem of open world game design is that unless you pause time, the game isnt fair for people.

No one like being told "well, we made it to where all the villiages could be destroyed by something, and then made it to where it can just happen as part of the game world, and becuase of that, its entierly possible that, due to no fault of your own, an entire villiage could be destroyed, and you now have to suffer the consqeunces of actions that wernt your fault to begin with".

Its the same reason why Dragons can actually destroy towns and stuff in ES to force people to pay attention to the MQ, its just not fair, or fun, and the game that do try [censored] like that, see Dead Risigin 2, have that stuff become one of the game's most hated features.
Then people should learn to live with their consequences. It that simple. Plus, CDPR doesn't make games for 12 year olds either.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:19 pm

Then people should learn to live with their consequences. It that simple. Plus, CDPR doesn't make games for 12 year olds either.
A town besing destoryed by monsters while you were somewhere else is not YOUR consequences.

Thats the problem.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:19 am

True, but its still interesting to see how this works out. Its coming out in 2014 right?
Yep. We don't know if it's coming in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th quarter of 2014, but regardless, CDPR, take as much as you need to make the game amazing.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:01 am

Des7iny.

That is all.

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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:07 pm

A town besing destoryed by monsters while you were somewhere else is not YOUR consequences.

Thats the problem.
Stuff like that happens in RL, (obviously not monsters destroying a town, but you get my idea) and goes to show that the game doesn't revolve around the player. [censored] happens in RL, and the same should go for games like the Witcher.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:35 am

Stuff like that happens in RL, (obviously not monsters destroying a town, but you get my idea) and goes to show that the game doesn't revolve around the player. [censored] happens in RL, and the same should go for games like the Witcher.
And you cant punish people for that, it simply isnt fair, and I can tell you right now, they are gonna get tons of [censored] for doing it.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:38 am

As good as The Witcher 3 sounds, I don't think it will play enough like TES to be true competition. At most we can hope that bethesda will take some of the interesting mechanics from the game and use them in TES6
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:21 am

I don't know. It depends on what CDPR is going to do. If they do let us import the choices we made from the previous games, that would be awesome.

Given just how different the state of the world can be depending on the path you follow, I think they've got a hell of a job to do.
Then again, with the south invading the northern kingdoms and the story looking like it will take us south, it may not be all that bad. A few differnt characters here and there and a good or bad relationship with them is all.
As an example: you might encounter the Witcher School of the Viper and they will be suspicious/hostile or helpful/neutral depending Letho's fate.

I'm more interested in how they will handle importing your equipment. I like how they handled it in TW2. If you had all the best blades and Raven's armor they stayed pretty worthy through roughly the first half of the game but could be improved upon. They weren't really outclassed until later in the game.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:15 am



ME2 was in development before EA bought bioware and I disagree with you on ME3 it's not just the story telling, there are several choices gameplay wise that made it bad, plus in my opinion the ending deserves every bit of flak it got, it destroyed any sense of threat the main villains had, introduces a new character at the end, who in turn introduces a problem (which is proven wrong multiple times during the coarse of the three games) with one of the most staggering logical fallacies ive ever seen, is a completely blatant rip off of the ending choices from Deus Ex (one of which has no business being in Mass Effect) and on top of all that the obvious blatant lies perpetrated by their PR department concerning the ending.

I appreciate that the ending was awful, no one denies that, but was it worth the petition? The reams of fan-fiction and the overall aggressive reaction towards bioware. At the end of the day - as much as we may love it - it's only a game.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:05 am

Yep. We don't know if it's coming in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th quarter of 2014, but regardless, CDPR, take as much as you need to make the game amazing.
Exactly, take a few months for some really extensive testing and dont be governed by unrealistic release dates set by greedy distributers.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:29 am

And you cant punish people for that, it simply isnt fair, and I can tell you right now, they are gonna get tons of [censored] for doing it.
You also have to have remember that the game is still in development, so that idea and/or mechanic could change at any moment, so I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch over it right now. Wait and see.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:07 pm

Stuff like that happens in RL, (obviously not monsters destroying a town, but you get my idea) and goes to show that the game doesn't revolve around the player. [censored] happens in RL, and the same should go for games like the Witcher.

It's a bad mechanic. While some players might like this, many players will be annoyed that negative things are happening when they're doing things. Very few players enjoy being penalized for simply pressing "Start" and that's what that kind of mechanic will feel like for many and it's justified.
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Post » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:23 pm

Exactly, take a few months for some really extensive testing and dont be governed by unrealistic release dates set by greedy distributers.
Excellent post. Reminds of a game we all know and love hate.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:27 am

I'm really looking forward to TW3, but will it take a year to get from PC to console?
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:58 am

I'm really looking forward to TW3, but will it take a year to get from PC to console?
I they're developing it for PC and next-gen consoles at the same time.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:38 pm

I they're developing it for PC and next-gen consoles at the same time.
It's going out on all "major platforms" I believe.
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:59 am

It's going out on all "major platforms" I believe.

Oh, so it's a PC exclusive, then?

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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:09 am

Oh, so it's a PC exclusive, then?

/shot
lol :D
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:18 am

It's going out on all "major platforms" I believe.
http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/cdprojekt/witcher3/cover-reveal18834/witcher3cover-full.jpg
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Post » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:54 am

I they're developing it for PC and next-gen consoles at the same time.
Ah, cool. I voted they don't need to step their game up, because I would by their games even if they kept doing what they're doing now.
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