Unh. I had a Jean Auel phase when I was about 13. Glad it didn't wreck me for life.

Yeah, I ditched it about 30 pages in, so I don't have as strong opinions as you but it's terribly annoying now that it's literally everywhere. We're going to have three more years of being plagued by it as the other movies come out. I don't think they're as horrendous as Twilight, but I'd rather think that people would be introduced to dystopian literature by... something better. What really annoyed me was an http://www.goodreads.com/blog/show/351-the-dystopian-timeline-to-the-hunger-games-infographic I saw on Goodreads that made it out to be the pinnacle of the dystopian novel evolution. *gag*

I don't think that popular necessarily equals bad, I like Stephen King for instance, but in the case of these YA novels they just are. Then again I read tons of Nancy Drew when I was younger so, whatever.

Want to hear a scary story?

Basically SAW in book form, the protaganist turns out to be the murderer, the she wakes up.
Yeah...

It's based on how the future could be from the time the book was written, and it is a messed up world, so it's not a pleasant read. It was hard for me to read about half way through it because there's a lot of stuff hard to understand that don't seem that important, but from there the rest of the story picks up faster.

Gotta go with the tv guide.. worst read ever.. followed closely by last weeks TV guide, which follows closely behind the guide from the week before, and before that, and before that....

Most of the books I've had to read for Dutch literature class apply for this. I think De Metsiers (which is actually written by a Flemish author) is the worst. It's about a girl [censored] everyone in the village, including an American soldier stationed there and her [censored] brother, and... No that's pretty much the entire plot.

An ex-girlfriend of mine made me read The lives of the Mayfair witches. Anne Rice tricked me by writing a very good first book, which made me finish the other two as well, even though they were absolutely terrible. If I want soft-porm I'll just browse the internet rather than waste my time reading all that crap.

It's not that I'm opposed to six in literature or anything, I love ASoIaF for example. It's just that... Ugh. Try reading these books for yourself and you'll see.

Bahahaha.
If the author could write that scene and not make it physically painfull I wouldnt care too much. But yeah its totally becuase of the six, not the horrible way it was handled.
I compare them becuase both are very overrated.

This rubs me the wrong way. "You didnt like hearing about the good ache miss Stark had after having six with her husband. Go back to the run of the mill stuff".
Run of the mill to me, comes of as inferior. To be more specific, less depth and less mature.

Violence actually has a purpose, if a character gets hurt or killed. It can effect the plot. Hearing about how 2 people had six. Yeah not so much.

It was predictable. Oh look he got pushed, damn I never saw that coming.

Ya, the first book was quite well written, although there are still sections that are cringeworthy. I've got it on my bookshelf. The sequels should not have been made.

^ This.

The revelation that these two are having six with each other actually effects the plot. It makes the reader realize what type of relationship the two siblings have with each other. The relationship they have and what secret they share is pretty big and a major contributor to the story.

So the some of the six does have a purpose.

You only read the first book anyways. Read the entire series and then come back and give me your opinion. I thought the books were overrated because of the tv show and I read book one and I'm almost finished with book two and it's a good series IMO.

I could say the same for violence not effecting the plot of a book. Two people could die and it could have no effect on the plot whatsoever. Where as if two important characters have six, it could drastically change how things work out. So what you just said is kind of a double standard.

Does it gross you out more to read about how two humans having six? Or does hearing about one person murdering another person just not as gross?

Don't know how you managed it. The thought of reading even one of the books in its entirety gives me goosebumps.

'The Host' was pretty bad, while the concept is interesting enough by itself.

This got me curious. Here it is if anyone wants to read it: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4719325/1/My_Immortal_REPOST.

Edit: Oh God I can feel my IQ slowly being svcked out from me. The hell am I reading

"Spieltrieb" ("Gaming instinct") by Juli Zeh. Really. Awful. Writing.

I've heard almost consistently bad things about Ayn Rand's books. Based on the various descriptions, her writing sounds like L Rob Hubbard's whittering; I haven't actually read either author and I have no inclination to do so...

I was coming on to say the exact same thing. I watched a movie based on it and liked the concept so went and read the book. The actual writing style is what put me off. There's pages and pages of just back and forth dialogue with no narrative....just didn't like it.

"Dahlgren" and "Neveryon" by Delany.
Both supremely long and boring, they were the only two books I ever gave up on and quit reading about halfway through. BTW, the only reason I gave him a second chance and got Neveryon after being so bitterly disappointed by Dahlgren, I thought maybe the first book was a fluke, and Delany was getting a lot of critical acclaim at the time, and unfortunately I fell for it both times. I will never read another Delany book, ever.

Gregory Peck

It's only a short-book old sport, can't imagine what in it would make you intensely dislike it; I thought it was an interesting concept and a decent read. It's not as good as Nineteen Eighty-Four (I assume the top dystopian book ) or A Canticle for Leibowitz (my favourite dystopian/apocalyptic book) but I enjoyed it.

OT, I don't really read books that I don't think I'll be interested in.

Only they could easily have missed out describing what they are doing to eachother. Or is the Queen moaning while her borther touches her important to the plot, or is it something that wasnt needed, and made it seem like some of the mass effect fan fics I have been exposed too.

I hate this idea that I need to fuly go through something before judging it. If I must force myself to read, its bad. Books like games are entertainment, you shouldnt be forcing yourself to enjoy them. If you dont like it, stop.

If important characters deaths, have no effect then the book is wrong. Im not saying six has no impact, it can. But you can have six in a story without mentioning it. Just imply, skip the scene. I dont want to hear what positions they are doing or any of this [censored] I saw in GoT.
Congrats six is in the plot, and it isnt horrible to read.

When did I say reading about it grossed me out ? Now your just making assumptions about me, let me make it clear. I hate it becuase it was executed badly. Very badly.
I am not grossed out by it, im not grossed out by violence. But I would rather read about something violent than the author going into needless detail about what 2 people do in the private.

have you ever considered that books may be more than simple entertainment? Literature examines the human condition, which is often disturbing. I haven't read the book in question, but I can say that it's incredibly simple minded to condemn something as rubbish because it's unsettling.

Have you considered that may be an intended effect?

Great writers agitate and call all givens into question.

I guess I better send an apology letter to all the shock sites on the internet. Now, in all seriousness, Ratslayer isn't so much bashing the book than he is expressing his dislike of how it was written. I personally think it's incredibly simple minded to go around making groundless accusations about people I've never met. If he doesn't like the book, he doesn't like it. I see no reason why that should affect my opinion of him as a person.

I read a book once about a spelunker who goes too deep into a cave and comes out in a different world populated by bipedal cat people who want him dead (there are no other humans in that world). It's written in first person (which I loathe), and the entire story was so gd painful to read through. Man, I hated that book.

Also, Anne Rice's witch books, and her last few vampire books too. She should have stopped at Queen of the Damned, and she should not have manifested her dead... oh, never mind. That will go *nowhere* good. Suffice it to say that while I kind of liked QotD, it had some problems. Wasn't particularly fond of her mummy book either.

And Cujo. And Insomnia. Both of them horrible pieces of crap from Stephen King who displays, in these (and other) books how tiresome he can sometimes be. Come to think of it, the only books I actually liked from him were The Stand and the Dark Tower books.

And anything written by the abominable Stephanie Meyer. I hope she rots in hellllllloooooooo nevermind.

The Southern Vampire Mysteries. One and all, those books are awful. I enjoyed the HBO vision of them though.

Firstly, I said that something shouldn't be condemned just because it's unsettling. I'm not saying, nor have I said, anything to the slightest effect that would indicate that I think shock holds merit in itself.

Secondly, it's not a false accusation. It's a statement. It would be an accusation if I said "you're incredibly simple minded to condemn things as rubbish because they unsettle you".

Thirdly, I don't believe I have ever given voice to any opinions of ratslayer anywhere on the web, let alone these forums.

"Moby dike" and "The Red Badge of Courage" - though I was forced to read them.

"Catch 22" - something about it was very annoying. "The Sun Also Rises" (I really liked "A Farewell to Arms")

Many of the short stories that make up "The Martian Chronicles."

"Siddhartha" by Hesse. . .

I usually don't read bad books. If it hasn't caught my attention by the end of about the second chapter, I put it down.