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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:20 am

Armors being sub-par?

You really expected an armor made of leather and iron (Dawnguard armors) and (going off the shoulder plates) elven/gold armor shoulderpadded'd leather (royal Vampire armor) to be better than dragonbone and Daedric?

In my opinion, you expected too much.

Castle Volkihar becomes your player home by the way, Kung if you side with them.


Its YOUR fault if you side with the Dawnguard, you get a tiny room on the top floor as such.

Players are spoiled these days and expect way to much of things, expect things that aren't promised.

You can return to the soul cairn by the way, you just have to walk out of the side door by the entrance of the soul cairn so you discover "Castle Volkihar balcony"
Sorry, but you can't say that joining the Dawnguard is wrong as there's no official statement on that reguard.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:30 pm

@LBX

My fault? i disagree.

It was my choice and my $$$ spent to play yhe game the way I choose.


Also in another playthru I did side with the Vampires but only the side room becomes available.

If you place items in anyother room or anyother barrel for instance that item disapears perma after a few days if you leave there and not in the player based room.

So the castle really is not a full player home.
You don't seem to understand the concept of a player home, anywhere that has safe perm storage and allows you to sleep is a player home so in essence they both become player homes and you can actually sleep in any coffin in Castle Volkihar all over the castle.

All I'm saying is..the good guys generally don't get to live in the luxury homes while the bad guys do..as shown from the start by..

Castle Volkihar being a regal looking castle excluding the human cattle strapped to tables with Vamps feeding on them.

..and Fort Dawnguard being a cobweb infested dust heap that even at the end of the MQ doesn't look nearly as good as Castle Volkihar.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:30 am

Who cares? There a ton of upgrade-able homes in the game already. Why does everyone NEED a base already filled with people to be their home? Really WHY?

The same reason I was disappointed that Sky Haven Temple never really upgraded to become a viable home, before I decided to utterly abandon the Blades: options and roleplay. The same reason we can make our homes in Jorrvaskr, the College of Winterhold, the Cistern, or the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary. Some people don't want to live in the homes in the cities. They may not fit their character's RP, and it's always nice to have an increased number of options.

Do the beds/coffins in the new locations give rested bonuses?
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:17 pm

The same reason I was disappointed that Sky Haven Temple never really upgraded to become a viable home, before I decided to utterly abandon the Blades: options and roleplay. The same reason we can make our homes in Jorrvaskr, the College of Winterhold, the Cistern, or the Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary. Some people don't want to live in the homes in the cities. They may not fit their character's RP, and it's always nice to have an increased number of options.

Do the beds/coffins in the new locations give rested bonuses?
Yes, they give you a Vampiric burst of energy or whatever it was called and the well rested bonus.

I never really checked to see what the Vampiric burst of energy did for me, probably just buffed the Vampire Lord form even more..

I'd assume you have to be a Vampire to get the Vampiric buff from the coffins.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:14 am

All I'm saying is..the good guys generally don't get to live in the luxury homes while the bad guys do..as shown from the start by..

I don't know about that... Bruce Wayne has some pretty fancy digs...

Then again, he is the Batman...

Oh, my god... You don't think... http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/251811-103956-batman_super.jpg

All jokes aside, having the economic means to live in a nice home does not make you a bad guy. The Companions have a nicer home than either unlawful faction in this game, and I doubt people would say the Dark Brotherhood are the default good guys.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:14 pm

I don't know about that... Bruce Wayne has some pretty fancy digs...

Then again, he is the Batman...

Oh, my god... You don't think... http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/251811-103956-batman_super.jpg

All jokes aside, having the economic means to live in a nice home does not make you a bad guy. The Companions have a nicer home than either unlawful faction in this game, and I doubt people would say the Dark Brotherhood are the default good guys.

Psssh Batman isn't a good guy, hes an anti-hero.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:42 am

I don't know about that... Bruce Wayne has some pretty fancy digs...

Then again, he is the Batman...

Oh, my god... You don't think... http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/251811-103956-batman_super.jpg

All jokes aside, having the economic means to live in a nice home does not make you a bad guy. The Companions have a nicer home than either unlawful faction in this game, and I doubt people would say the Dark Brotherhood are the default good guys.
The TG live in the sewer...that is the fanciest base of all...if you are a skeever of course
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:14 am

The TG live in the sewer...that is the fanciest base of all...if you are a skeever of course
Skeever's paradise.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:00 am

Psssh Batman isn't a good guy, hes an anti-hero.

That's not the same as a bad guy.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:17 am

That's not the same as a bad guy.
Nor is it the same as a good guy.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:23 am

Batman is not an Anti-hero. He doesnt kill anyone, just because he is dark does not make him an anti-hero. Blade, Ghost Rider, Punisher...those are anti-heroes. They dont throw villains in jail, they kill them
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:59 am

Batman is not an Anti-hero. He doesnt kill anyone, just because he is dark does not make him an anti-hero. Blade, Ghost Rider, Punisher...those are anti-heroes. They dont throw villains in jail, they kill them
Failed hard with that copy/paste. D=

In fiction a an antihero is generally considered to be a protagonist whose character is contrary to that of the archetypal hero, yet typically retains many heroic qualities.

Seems like Batman.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:01 am

Also forgot to add the Crow and Spawn...the best Anti-heroes ever
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:12 pm

Also forgot to add the Crow and Spawn...the best Anti-heroes ever
I thought antiheroes were just protagonists whose character is contrary to that of the archetypal hero, yet typically retains many heroic qualities.


Not heroes that kill, I thought that was anti villains.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:11 am

I thought antiheroes were just protagonists whose character is contrary to that of the archetypal hero, yet typically reains many heroic qualities.


Not heroes that kill, I thought that was anti villains.
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A hero is anyone who performs feats of "good" for the benefit of those around them. An Anti-Hero is someone who performs feats of "good" BY doing things considered "bad" for the benefit of those around them. So batman and superman are the same: They both throw crooks in jail...no real difference, while the Crow and the Punisher kill those who committed crimes in order to end their "evil" rather than re-arrest them another day
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:23 am

People only assume Batman is anti-hero because he wears black and fights from the shadows. But that is just "style". He still doesnt kill people
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:11 am

A hero is anyone who performs feats of "good" for the benefit of those around them. An Anti-Hero is someone who performs feats of "good" BY doing things considered "bad" for the benefit of those around them. So batman and superman are the same: They both throw crooks in jail...no real difference, while the Crow and the Punisher kill those who committed crimes in order to end their "evil" rather than re-arrest them another day
Pretty sure Batman is a criminal in the city he protects and the police want to arrest him at every turn, I thought that made him an antihero.

Superman is praised for what he does..so is Spiderman (excluding J. Jonah Jameson lol) and so are other heroes.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:26 am

Pretty sure Batman is a criminal in the city he protects and the police want to arrest him at every turn, I thought that made him an antihero.

Superman is praised for what he does..so is Spiderman (excluding J. Jonah Jameson lol) and so are other heroes.
They have no reason to arrest him though. He never kills anyone or robs any banks to fund his endeavors (Cat-woman is anti-hero). They have no charges against Batman
It just stems from the stereotype that things that are "Dark" are bad and must be "enlightened"
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:57 am

Pretty sure Batman is a criminal in the city he protects and the police want to arrest him at every turn, I thought that made him an antihero.

Superman is praised for what he does..so is Spiderman excluding J. Jonah Jameson and other heroes.

Not really. While it's true Batman does act outside the law, it's very rare for Jim Gordon to even consider going after him. He's typically only hunted early on in his career, when corrupt officials are still running Gotham. After he's crippled the old mob families/the new super-criminals such as the Joker and Two-Face kill them off, even cops who don't necessarily like him (such as Harvey Bullock) tend to at least begrudgingly accept that he's helping the city out.

But getting back on topic:

Man, not a lot has been fixed in Dawnguard, eh?
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:05 am

Not really. While it's true Batman does act outside the law, it's very rare for Jim Gordon to even consider going after him. He's typically only hunted early on in his career, when corrupt officials are still running Gotham. After he's crippled the old mob families/the new super-criminals such as the Joker and Two-Face kill them off, even cops who don't necessarily like him (such as Harvey Bullock) tend to at least begrudgingly accept that he's helping the city out.

But getting back on topic:

Man, not a lot has been fixed in Dawnguard, eh?
Seems like they added a few more bugs than what already existed with Dawnguard, not sure if its a bug but the line down the chin of the new Vampire male characters are pretty odd looking..makes me think they are the reaper vampires from Blade.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:45 am

Seems like they added a few more bugs than what already existed with Dawnguard, not sure if its a bug but the line down the chin of the new Vampire male characters are pretty odd looking..makes me think they are the reaper vampires from Blade.
That is a good thing, not a bug. It is the "beginning" of the Bat face that ancient Vamps have now...even though you never get the full version
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:23 am

Seems like they added a few more bugs than what already existed with Dawnguard, not sure if its a bug but the line down the chin of the new Vampire male characters are pretty odd looking..makes me think they are the reaper vampires from Blade.

Well you know what they say, you don't get perfect 10/10 scores on review sites unless you litter your game with lots of bugs, glitches, and broken quests.


That is a good thing, not a bug. It is the "beginning" of the Bat face that ancient Vamps have now...even though you never get the full version

Not sure I see the wisdom in making them stand out from humans even more and yet making it so people don't attack them...
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:02 am



Not sure I see the wisdom in making them stand out from humans even more and yet making it so people don't attack them...
Well Volkihar are not supposed to blend in anyways so...they threw in 1 tiny piece of lore-correct aesthetics
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:59 am

The DLC definitely was not the best. I can understand why alot of people may like it, but it just isn't the type of DLC that I think Skyrim needed. Bethesda should've started off with an expansion pack. This DLC definitely added some nice environments to explore, but its quests were boring and the new enemies feel.... the same as fighting creatures that are already in the game. And after you finish the quests and/or get the nice loot from the new areas, I honestly se no point in returning to thos places. The vale is just a re-textured skyrim forest environment and the Oblivion plane is as boring to be in as.... well, an oblivion plane from oblivion. More features like Vampire and werewolf perk trees should've been in the game from the start, like Dragon Bone weapons. Overall, I enjoyed this DLC visually, but am not satisfied with it content wise nor story wise. Maybe I over hyped the 1st DLC for the 2011 GOTY
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:15 am

Well Volkihar are not supposed to blend in anyways so...they threw in 1 tiny piece of lore-correct aesthetics

Yes, but now I'm forced to question Skyrim's education system even more than I already do.

"Hey, Mjoll?"

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