Meh, that doesn't bother me as much as no used games. PC/ PS4 here I come...

I agree, no point in people whining about it though...

Ah, so you've only seen the reveal and not kept an eye out or an ear open beforehand. You're trying to prove a point, but your utter ignorance is in the extremes right now.

Various leaks and other tidbits of information have been released, including how "a disk is coupled with an XBOX account" meaning that a fee may be needed for the game to be played again.

If you're going to argue a point, at least have the evidence that's already accessible by all at hand.

Look, I see where you're coming from, but there is more information out there than just the reveal. Look it up, if you want. There's also some interviews with MS employees. One member posted a web article with quoted evidence against used games.

Also, remember the MS Twitter raging, where we were told to "#dealwithit" by a MS employee concerning always online? For some, that was reason enough to get pissed.

So no used games. What if I want to let my cousin borrow a game for a week? What if want to borrow his? I'm no commie, but I really do hate hyperbolic capitalism. Shame on you MS.

It is restricting used games? Holy [censored]. Dooooomed.

Release was much too American-centric, re: the TV stuff. Hard enough to get interested in it as is when you don't even get their products here.

All-in-all I'm fairly impressed with what I saw. Did some things better than Sony's reveal, did some things worse. Didn't expect to see much in the way of GAMES GAMES GAMES with E3 around the corner, but could have done with more all the same.

But games will be tied to an Xbox Live account, Wired reveals—or else you'd just be able to pass games around to everyone you know. And if you want to link a game to a second account, you'll have to pay a fee:

so where not allowed to have real life friends apparently ...

Pretty much the only thing I care about is if the CPU is CISC (x86) or RISC (pretty much anything other than x86). Did they say?

CISC is a stoopid architecture choice for a console.

It's always the same kind of response from the people watching these streams. I think some perspective is needed here. "Gamers" are a niche audience compared to the goalposts these large corporations have set for themselves. If anything, I was very surprised by Sony focusing on keeping their console as a game-focused brand.

Xbox One... Xbox One... What can I say? It was better than I expected to say the least, but not enough to make me want to buy it. No used games and no backwards compatibility.

Yeah, not gonna buy it. I'm gonna stick with PC and maybe buy a PS4 if it turns out to be good.

I'm not sure you can say that as absolutely true. What they have shown so far is nice, but what are they really showing off that Sony didn't also do? The Kinect and it's features are nice gimmicks, but the actual services?

I will say that Microsoft will once again take the larger share of the US market, but globally they are still going to be behind Sony.

They didn't. Basically bragged about how many transistors they have, rather than just telling us what the CPU is so we can work out if it's any good or not.

Pretty sure it's x86 like the PS4.

Two things of note:

1) Just said 8GB of RAM. I'm thinking it isn't GDDR5 like Sony.

2) 15 exclusives within one year, 8 of which will be new IP. This was Xbox's biggest weakness; Alan Wake was the only exclusive I ever wished was on PS3.

http://wiiudaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wii-u-comic-large.jpg

Didn't watch the show, and by reading the comments here I think I made the right choice. Now to go off and waste my life elsewhere by looking for a job, believing that i'm intelligent, and writing fiction in the hopes i'll be smart and recognized.

Yawn.

From a hardware perspective, it did seem interesting. The ability to run apps side by side could be cool, such as having a game guide open in Internet Explorer to the side with my game running at the same time. Kinect, if they bundle it with the console, isn't too bad either. Looking at the snapshot of the controller, it looked to have the home button, multiple app view button and everything you'd need to navigate the dashboard. In other words, it seems as though you won't physically have to use the Kinect if you don't want to. But, for menu navigation at least, it's pretty nifty.

In terms of the presentation itself, I was rather disappointed. They focused too much on sports, which whilst a considerable market isn't their only audience. It was also frustrating to hear in-engine cut-scenes being referred to as actual gameplay, when it is clearly not to any gamer with a moderate amount of knowledge. The way in which they referred to Modern Warfare 3 as having groundbreaking graphics for the time was just laughable. The footage shown of Ghosts, in my opinion, didn't even compare to Crysis 2 (and they were showing cut-scenes which usually look better than the actual game itself). Still, it may be enjoyable, and it is nice to hear it will still run at a solid 60 FPS.

Overall, and this is just my opinion at present time because we won't have real concrete details with which to be judgmental until E3 in a few weeks, I actually prefer the PS4 to the Xbox One. However, having also said that, I hate the controller of the PlayStation consoles (anologue sticks at the bottom). So, unless Microsoft really drop the bomb with some stellar games or Sony amaze me to the point that I'd be willing to adapt to using a different controller which I hate, I suspect I will actually switch over to PC gaming. The Wii U will have some solid first-party titles from Nintendo, but it can hardly be classed as next-generation on the hardware front. I can't really criticise Microsoft though, because they are just trying to appeal to a wider market. Plenty of people, even those who don't like gaming, would buy the Xbox One for its nifty media capability. Though, having said that, having to pay for Xbox Live Gold just to use Netflix would put loads of people off.

Why not? Hardly a new stance and no one seems to give a damn that Steam is the same.

What a waste. 80% of the instruction set of a CISC-based processor like the x86 family is completely useless for gaming (makes perfect sense for a general-purpose computing device, but not for something that should be specialized).

Yeah, they never mentioned the type of RAM. If it was GDDR5 they would have said so, surely?

Also tying games to an Xbox Live account? Are they serious?

Even if gamer won't appreciate the console, MS will have enough other audience, because of the broadness of the Xbox One.
I'm on PC, but this is big deal for me, because it will definitely affect the industry as a whole.
I just don't want further separation of the platforms. All these exclusives are already getting on my nerves, because some of them might actually be groundbreaking projects, which I won't be able to see without buying this stupid TVbox full of UNNEEDED functionality.

Yes. It is. Games appear to be installed to a hard-drive, which explains how it could instantly switch without disk-load times. However, if it operates on a basis like the Arcade titles do, then it is tied to your Live Profile/Console. This is annoying if you live in a household with multiple consoles, as you can no longer share games.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

I feel like Microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot. Anyone agree?

Apparently you have to pay if you share your game with your friends or family.

That's going to be the kicker. If they continue to charge for their online service while Sony's is free, I don't care what type of gimmicky capabilities it has, Sony has them trumped with the media applications.

The one thing that does look cool is the voice activiation to check in on different media sources that they were showing like fantasy sports and whatnot, but I have a feeling PS4 will do this too somehow (but not with voice?)

Could be something better or even unique (which doesn't mean better).