should consider getting 7 its really nice and just as easy to use

It will still have a subscription fee for Gold. You won't need to be connected to the internet to play games. It'll work like Steam in that regard.

not impressed microsoft *gazes at the ps4*

I didn't watch it. On Dial-Up and don't have cable.

So did they just confirmed it? No Premiere date? Or channel for it?

I don't use Steam. Don't trust it. And why would you download the game if you have it on the game's disc?

I'm not affected by the blocking of used games. I'm primarily on the PC now and I don't even remember the last used game I bought. But there was a line and Microsoft crossed it;

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

No more letting friends borrow games. Nope. Your friends will have to pay Microsoft for permission to play it. [censored] that noise.

Edit: Edited for stupid grammatical error.

If they made it free, surely it would be an important piece of info to reveal, and make it look as good as PSN.

So yet another rumor I'm freaking out over?

This 2004 PC I'm sharing with my family is XP. But my personal PC will have Windows 7.

I also stand by this I also do stocks and options. Although I don't buy Microsoft or Sony stocks Sony's stock rose and Microsoft's stock dropped because the used game fee is real I looked into it. I didn't know why it dropped I read articles thought they were fake then I saw some people selling their stocks because of it.

I... I don't even know what to say. I was really rooting for Xbox this generation but.. Wow.

Just confirmed it, with Spielberg sat in a chair talking about liking Halo and gaming (totally not paid to say that) and that he's looking forward to making a Halo TV series.

If that's legit, then Kinect will be in the standard package.

I won't use it, but I'm okay with that.

Holy crap. No way in hell am I buying it now.

Is the Kinect a separate part of does it come with the console?

If all the rumors are true. I kinda feel sad for MS. Massive fail.

So I can't trade in the Konnect?

Noooooooo!

Even if the xbox fails, they still have a huge share of the operating system market with windows and they are a lot bigger then sony, so have less to lose.

LOL. Ok now I'm starting to believe that is just a rumor, cause now its just getting ridiculous.

Since Kinect comes with the console, this doesn't seem such a problem. But, what if your room is too small for Kinect to work? That means no Xbox One...

Lets hope Microsoft comes out and clarifies this used games fee. Or if it really is real lets hope they think long and hard and change it to the way it has always been where I can go and buy a used video game without a fee.

I don't see a problem with this. The kinect is bundled with the console.

A games console which doesn't support pre-owned games, forces a controller which doesn't work with small rooms on you, and places an emphasis not on games, doesn't seem to bode well in my mind for sales.

Why? If you lost your job I doubt MS would feel sad for you. Seriously I hope they do something positive with the negative feedback they're getting. Paying to let my friends borrow something I own is damn near 1984ish. I'll start counting down days till oxygen get privatized and the Lorax disappears,

How much is Microsoft into the BluRay, TV, and Audio system markets?

Sony is a mostly a hardware company. Microsoft is software.