I'm not sure why there seems to be so much hate for the Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim. I found it to be a thrilling questline. Being kidnapped in your sleep and taken to the abandoned shack was a great start; it really makes you feel like a ruthless killer no matter who you choose (considering Astrid was just testing you and nobody actually had a contract out on them) and just having the element of choice made that initiation quest really impressive for me.
When you get to the Sanctuary and meet everyone, you really get a feel for the personality of each character. I loved the throwbacks to Oblivion when you get Lucien and his "old and dear friend", Shadowmere. Summoning Lucien grants for some interesting dialogue and he'll comment on certain brotherhood quests - he'll offer input on Cicero, for example. Cicero is my favourite character in Skyrim simply because he's so wild. I hope everyone read his journals (not just Final Volume)! Might change your opinion of him as I know there are a lot of Cicero haters out there
Furthermore, people seem to be complaining that there's nothing to do once you've completed the questline and it should be added to. I agree and think it would be good if more initiates joined and then went from simply 'initiate' to a named character, so that the Brotherhood would feel alive again. However, are we forgetting that this was the same with Oblivion? When you became Listener then, you weren't able to complete more assassinations, you just listened to the Night Mother, yet in Skyrim you at least get to complete some more quests for some quick cash!
Oblivion's Brotherhood was fantastic, I'm not disputing that at all. Granted some people will prefer it, however I'm just shocked at the number of people who've said they "hate" it in Skyrim and call it "s***" etc...so what is it that makes it apparently so much better in Oblivion and so bad now?

I've disliked the Dark Brotherhood in every TES game I've played, but that's probably just me.

I thought there wasn't anything to do but I recently discovered I can torture people for locations to their treasure. Good times.

maybe if we were able to rebuild the DB to follow the old ways i would like it but you cant do that,so no,i hate it.

The Dark Brotherhood was my favourite guild in Skyrim, but I felt sad when I saw it after coming from Oblivion. It was a disgrace. Didn't even follow its own belief system anymore, and Astrid was a [censored].

Its better now though, after you take over. However, I don't like the radiant assassination quests. They have no skill to them, no bonuses. I wish there were some scripted ones after the actual quests have been completed but I guess that's impossible.

Just when you think you know everything you can do in the game, you see a post like this...

Gonna have to try that now. Cheers for the tip off!

i loved the questline but but the chaters were a little stale in oblivion they were more relateble one whould even offier you the dark gift of entirnaly youth

I like the DB with my Argonian character.
The possibility to restore the old dawnstar security, Conitious quests from the nightmother and prisoners to torture and to feed from (as a vampire).

But it would indeed great, if some major quest about the future of the DB would be added.
I also would like to let lucien roam freely in the sanctuary or even bring him back!!

I loved it<3 And there is hate for every guild in skyrim you know

Thats what you are actually doing once completed the questline.
You restored the original DB with the five tenants.

I miss the powerful dark brotherhood but I do like the idea of building up the dark brotherhood to its former glory

Wish Veezara had survived as well, I thought it was epic when he came to defend you when you killed Vittoria Vici. Definitely agree that rebuilding it to follow the old ways would be a great idea! Shame it just stops dead BUT I don't think that's enough reason to hate it; surely you enjoyed it whilst playing through it?

I didnt mind the questline, but to me... it never had that Dark brotherhood theme...

with one sanctuary and like five members tops? no.
thats a dead guild like oblivion,i mean build it up and make it what it use to be,with speakers and silencers and that stuff,oh and actually LEAD.
if i get quests from night mother i should be giving them to other members not doing all the work.

I personally love the DB in Skyrim - best Questline in the game, IMO, and one that I've played several times.

I agree though, I'd like to help return the DB to it's 'former glory' and add some life to the Sanctuary. It'd be a nice side-questline!

I have to agree that the DB in Skyrim was "different" than it was in Oblivion. But different isn′t always bad. However, I do dislike the fact that the DB no longer followed their initial rules. That is a bit silly to me. Furthermore, I think that there was more potential for the DB in Skyrim. ex. A mission about the shadowscale would be nice. Some more unique assassination marks would be nice as well.

A lot of people had such high expectations for the DB in Skyrim, so high in fact that it was impossible to satisfy them.

I haven't played it as my character wasn't the assassin type.
I do want to say I was annoyed that in order to get rid of that nasty Grelod and more importantly get that quest down from my list I had to be kidnapped. It seemed so over-the-top and a little pathetic, "Oh my, you stole our killz".

What I really liked was the ability to go my own way at that point.

Hooray! Glad you loved it like me! I've actually joined it with all but one of my characters (and I think I'm going to make her join too, I just love it so much ha!)
Yes I know, I just feel that this one has been targeted the most unfortunately.

Do you really think, my fellow Khajit, that they will let you completly rebouild the DB in whole Tamriel???
There are limits in the game my friend, i would be the first to be happy if you coudl do that, but thts not possible.
what they could do is how you are restoring the DB to glory in skyrim or maybe an extra landmass as DLC, but nothing more.

I felt it was bland, boring and shallow. It's denizens were no different, and upon that discovery I never repeated it again.

It is the most underwhelming questline imo. Probably becuase I have to compare it to the oblivion questline which was superb, in skyrim the DB feels more lighthearted,less serious and the questline less involving compared to the tense mystery thriller you are led on in oblivion.

The black robes looked more sinister compared to the red/black shrouded armour too and Astrid pales in comparison to Sir lucien lachance.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, now, ha, ha, ha.
That's the sound of Mephala laughing. It's reverberating around the whole Web. Know why? Sithis ain't listening. Sithis ain't capable of listening. If Sithis has anything resembling thoughts at all, they are so far above the Mund(ane)iality of mortals it's an even bigger joke. No wonder these guys have half-assed guild structures and membership numbers, the whole thing is based on a spiritual falsehood. Find a god that actually gives a damn one way or the other to worship, and then make a fresh start.

well i wish we could at least get new members in the current sanctuary with actual names and story,and assign missions to some of the members when ever night mother has some available.
i hate the way it currently is.
oh and there was no khajit member in this DB...

I will agree with you, that the Khajit is a must in the DB or the thieves guild.
The Khajit is my favo race to, Argonian second.
I have a thing with cats...

J'Ghasta.
this guy was bada**,wish there was a member like him in this DB.