If you thought the Eruption of Red Mountain was bad...

Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:49 am

Then your going to be shocked by this.

Well, we all know how in Skyrim, there is talk of the Volcano in Morrowind, Red Mountain, has erupted right? Well, the eruption of that volcano will pale in comparison to the next.So, Located in Eastmarch, there is a volcanicly active area that boarders the Rift. Hot Springs, Geysers, mud pits, steam vents, the likes. Not unlike some places here on Real World Earth. Then it hit me, there is a perfect anology to the real world here. This location is eerily similar to the Yellowstone Region, which we all know is one of the most Dangerous volcanoes in the world. Ok, hear me out on this. This reigon in question goes through a lot of Volcanic Activity. Steam Vents with Sulfur deposits, hot springs, mud pits. That is all well and clear. A great Tourist spot, like Yellowstone. But like Yellowstone, it is much more sinister.

If you trace the outline of the region on the map, you can clearly see a massive Caldera.

as Illustrated by me, http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/spartanmk1/Skyrimsfate.png

When you visit the region, you can clearly see the caldera's edges. From the massive cliffs that separate East March and the Reach, to the smaller cliffs that surround all other sides of the region. On top of that, when you venture in the center of the region, you encounter a World Wall guarded by a Dragon. This is word wall is situated on what I have come to believe, is actually a Magma Dome which is slowly building as pressure builds in the magma chamber. Which mind you, would be fairly close to the surface if it's causing geo-thermal activity like what is present. The evidence supports that this region is in fact a Super Volcano. One that would be equivalent of our Yellowstone. (Remember, the game has been scaled down for ease of play) If this Volcano were to erupt today, I would put my money on the entire planet being affected, not just the region, or even the continent. Red Mountain looks like a zit compared to this.

Tamriel should get it's best scientists on site to watch this volcano. If it goes, its' taking Skyrim, and big chunks of Morrowind and Cyrodil with it.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:28 am

Probably for the best. Fertile soil ftw.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:22 am

they don't even know Why Volcanos


yes you read correctly,They don't know Why Volcanos

Vvardenfell is half the size of Skyrim, Redmountain is Half to 75% the size of Vvardenfell.


actually let me take that back. Vvardenfell IS the Volcano, Skyrim's Sauna pit has nothing on that


Big Boom unparalelled ;p
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:05 am

Yeah its a big volcano.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:03 pm

Thought about this a bit to much? Yeah, yeah I think you have.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:48 am


Tamriel should get it's best scientists on site to watch this volcano. If it goes, its' taking Skyrim, and big chunks of Morrowind and Cyrodil with it.
Tamriel's best scientists poofed their entire race out of existence a few thousand years ago. I don't think they're going to be much help. :shrug:
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:24 am

Then your going to be shocked by this.

Well, we all know how in Skyrim, there is talk of the Volcano in Morrowind, Red Mountain, has erupted right? Well, the eruption of that volcano will pale in comparison to the next.So, Located in Eastmarch, there is a volcanicly active area that boarders the Rift. Hot Springs, Geysers, mud pits, steam vents, the likes. Not unlike some places here on Real World Earth. Then it hit me, there is a perfect anology to the real world here. This location is eerily similar to the Yellowstone Region, which we all know is one of the most Dangerous volcanoes in the world. Ok, hear me out on this. This reigon in question goes through a lot of Volcanic Activity. Steam Vents with Sulfur deposits, hot springs, mud pits. That is all well and clear. A great Tourist spot, like Yellowstone. But like Yellowstone, it is much more sinister.

If you trace the outline of the region on the map, you can clearly see a massive Caldera.

as Illustrated by me, http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/spartanmk1/Skyrimsfate.png

When you visit the region, you can clearly see the caldera's edges. From the massive cliffs that separate East March and the Reach, to the smaller cliffs that surround all other sides of the region. On top of that, when you venture in the center of the region, you encounter a World Wall guarded by a Dragon. This is word wall is situated on what I have come to believe, is actually a Magma Dome which is slowly building as pressure builds in the magma chamber. Which mind you, would be fairly close to the surface if it's causing geo-thermal activity like what is present. The evidence supports that this region is in fact a Super Volcano. One that would be equivalent of our Yellowstone. (Remember, the game has been scaled down for ease of play) If this Volcano were to erupt today, I would put my money on the entire planet being affected, not just the region, or even the continent. Red Mountain looks like a zit compared to this.

Tamriel should get it's best scientists on site to watch this volcano. If it goes, its' taking Skyrim, and big chunks of Morrowind and Cyrodil with it.

Tamriels volcanos don't opperate under the same laws that our volcanos do. Theres no plate tectaonics or molten core where lava is pushed to the surface. Red Mountain errupted because Lie Rock fell and set off a chain reaction.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:43 pm

Tamriels volcanos don't opperate under the same laws that our volcanos do. Theres no plate tectaonics or molten core where lava is pushed to the surface. Red Mountain errupted because Lie Rock fell and set off a chain reaction.
There's no proof that normal volcanic activity doesn't mirror our own.

There's a lot of plate activity in Tamriel, considering how mountainous the border of each region is.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:10 pm

There's no proof that normal volcanic activity doesn't mirror our own.

There's a lot of plate activity in Tamriel, considering how mountainous the border of each region is.

Theres no proof that it does. Theres also nothing suggesting plate activity and that the mountains weren't made that way through the great war in the mythic era or just made that way when the world formed.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:03 pm

A Super Volcano? Wow, that thing can destroy entire Nirn. i don't know why Alduin didn't tried to erupt it. Would be much more easy. Tamriel would die with the explosion, while the rest fo the world would suffer witgh the dust in the air. Anyway i don't think the Aedra would let red mountain erupt.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:09 am

A Super Volcano? Wow, that thing can destroy entire Nirn. i don't know why Alduin didn't tried to erupt it. Would be much more easy. Tamriel would die with the explosion, while the rest fo the world would suffer witgh the dust in the air. Anyway i don't think the Aedra would let red mountain erupt.

Because its Alduin job to eat the world, not just destory. Nom nom nom.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:59 am

Because its Alduin job to eat the world, not just destory. Nom nom nom.

What he wants to do it's the same thing isn't? But i don't know, is he really trying to eat the world? OMG the Dwemer are inside him, Guard help!
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:32 am

What he wants to do it's the same thing isn't? But i don't know, is he really trying to eat the world? OMG the Dwemer are inside him, Guard help!

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1333820-if-you-thought-the-eruption-of-red-mountain-was-bad/s&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imperial-library.info%2Fcontent%2Fseven-fights-aldudagga&ei=0yUTT732JILN0AG63tSvAw&usg=AFQjCNGVovfoHyzdOsHlZ1IozY8xGXEVGQ&sig2=2pNcSZRvTJLGL2wLl9fZ2w

edit: I may have been confusing, no its not the same thing, and YES he wants to eat the world.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:43 am

What he wants to do it's the same thing isn't? But i don't know, is he really trying to eat the world? OMG the Dwemer are inside him, Guard help!
No, they aren't the same thing. If you had a hamburger, is smashing it with a hammer the same thing as taking a couple bites out of it then chasing them down with coke?
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:27 am

I wouldn't draw parallels to Yellowstone though. Since the game is based on the more Scandinavian regions I would say they had their eyes on Iceland
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:18 am

Red Mountain looks like a zit compared to this.

Though you're right that much of Eastmarch is basically a supervolcano, much like yellowstone is indeed, you're wrong about it's respective size to Red Mountain.

What's called Red Mountain is itself only the tip of an evidently very active volcanic region that effectively encompasses the whole of Vvardenfell. Furthermore Red Mountain/Vvardenfell is placed within the Inland Sea, and the Inland Sea basically is a massive crater implying there's massive damage throughout the planet's crust throughout the entire area, and beyond.

Sure Red Mountain and it's whole volcanic region has been much more active, dissipating volcanic pressure. But the forces at work there could/should dwarf those at work in the Eastmarch. The Eastmarch volcano might erupt as heavily as (or more heavily then) Red Mountain, but that's because it has been steadily building up pressure without dissipating it, not because of it's relative size to Red Mountain.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:03 am

There's no reason that both supernatural/god-derived factors as well as good ol' plate tectonics can't both be at play here. Nirn is Earthlike enough to assume that things work like they do on Earth, without hard evidence to the contrary. And if I remember correctly, isn't Red Mountain the location where Lorkhan was supposedly cast to Earth Tamriel, or his heart rather? Well, assuming that the fall of the Heart was a massive, disrupting event on the surface of primordial Nirn, it's logical to say that it created a thin spot in the crust. Once that happened, natural geologic forces could make that a geologic hot-spot, and potentially a supervolcano if the magma currents of the Mantle were right.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:47 am

There's no reason that both supernatural/god-derived factors as well as good ol' plate tectonics can't both be at play here. Nirn is Earthlike enough to assume that things work like they do on Earth, without hard evidence to the contrary. And if I remember correctly, isn't Red Mountain the location where Lorkhan was supposedly cast to Earth Tamriel, or his heart rather? Well, assuming that the fall of the Heart was a massive, disrupting event on the surface of primordial Nirn, it's logical to say that it created a thin spot in the crust. Once that happened, natural geologic forces could make that a geologic hot-spot, and potentially a supervolcano if the magma currents of the Mantle were right.

Possible, but we have no hard evidence to support the opposite either. Red Mountain was made when the Heart was shot into the sea of Ghosts, and the drops of blood became ebony deposits.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:51 am

Possible, but we have no hard evidence to support the opposite either. Red Mountain was made when the Heart was shot into the sea of Ghosts, and the drops of blood became ebony deposits.

Fair enough, but (1) given the rather Earth-like character of Nirn, Occam's Razor suggests we should assume things are Earth-like except where we have hard evidence to the contrary - meaning bears are omnivores you don't wanna screw with, horses are domesticated herbivores you can ride, dogs bark, the air gets colder as you go higher up a mountain, and so forth. Also, (2) we don't know how much of the official Lore should be taken as metaphorical or mystical/mythical accounts of ancient, even primordial events, and how much of it should be taken pretty literally. The lore is all contained in various books in-game, after all, and they can't all be literally correct.

After all:

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There is a book in Skyrim equating Alduin and Akatosh, saying that most educated people believe they are the same god, just with different names applied to them by different cultures, but then there's another book (called Alduin is Real! I believe, that says that both Alduin and Akatosh are real, but not the same dragon - and that Akatosh is good while Alduin is completely evil. In short, some of the official Lore is correct in a literal sense, while some of it has to be treated as pure fable or at best a mythologized account of events from the dim past.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:17 am

The properities of Nirn are one we just don't know enough about, but we do know that they are made of the dead bodies of gods through thrid party knowledge.

As for your second part..

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Don't get me started on Alduin and Akatosh. That junk about Alduin being the first born son of Akatosh is trash. Akatosh is just the political scheming of Alessia, as is that whole 'Dragon Born' Septims junk.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:05 pm

!!!

But we do know Akatosh exists.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:22 am

!!!

But we do know Akatosh exists.

Mythopeia makes it so, however, I dunno about all that First Born junk.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:55 am

Well, true, we can't know that for sure, I suppose, but then I don't see much to discount it. It seems to be something that all the sources agree on.

EDIT: Do you mean Akatosh being the first of the gods, or do you mean
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Alduin being first-born of Akatosh?
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:37 am

OMFG MORROWIND SPOILERS THANKS GAMES RUINED.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:18 am

Well, true, we can't know that for sure, I suppose, but then I don't see much to discount it. It seems to be something that all the sources agree on.

EDIT: Do you mean Akatosh being the first of the gods, or do you mean
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Alduin being first-born of Akatosh?

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Alduin being the first born son of Akatosh. Akatosh wans't even around until Alessia's time and Alduin predate Akatosh. It makes no sense.
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