PC: Do you use Mods? : Othor Games

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:52 pm

This of course isn't a germ-free environment which will yield untainted results, but I'm throwing this out there anyway.

Results could possibly be skewed... you could argue anyone involved in a game's forum this far out from release is going to be your more hardcoe player. Still, I'm curious. Be honest.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:05 am

You should add options for I don't play PC?Consoles.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:05 am

This of course isn't a germ-free environment which will yield untainted results, but I'm throwing this out there anyway.

Results could possibly be skewed... you could argue anyone involved in a game's forum this far out from release is going to be your more hardcoe player. Still, I'm curious. Be honest.

I think your poll fails to account for the majority of people who install lots of mods for Oblivion.

100-200+ mods is quite common.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:37 am

This of course isn't a germ-free environment which will yield untainted results, but I'm throwing this out there anyway.

Results could possible be skewed... you could argue anyone involved in a game's forum this far out from release is going to be your more hardcoe player. Still, I'm curious. Be honest.

At the moment, I'm playing a mod free game. But I usually ran TONS of mods. Everything from new spells (and even spell effects) to new creatures to overhauls to quest chains. UI improvements, graphics candy, you name it, I had it.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:45 am

is this for modders or people who use mods?

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:39 am

I would also point out that "modding" =/= installing a mod that someone else created

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:27 am

This of course isn't a germ-free environment which will yield untainted results, but I'm throwing this out there anyway.

Results could possibly be skewed... you could argue anyone involved in a game's forum this far out from release is going to be your more hardcoe player. Still, I'm curious. Be honest.

wrong forum

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:51 pm

Unless I feel the major need for something to be changed, or fixed, ill stick with visual mods. I played stock oblivion for like 500 hours with almost a dozen mods that changed weather, texture packs, skin, hair, eyes.

Then I got a race mod. Only because I thought the little kitty people were adorable.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:27 am

I would also point out that "modding" =/= installing a mod that someone else created

Fair to say yeah....but downloading a mod, and applying it to Vanilla = modding the game no? maybe better to say Mod Making

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:53 pm

I counted, just for the sake of this thread (feel special!) just how many mods I currently have active on Oblivion. This is a rough number, since I was only counting active esp files, which there are sometimes a few for a single mod, and sometimes mods like animation replacers and texture replacers do not come with esp files. I only counted mods like MMM and Unique Landscapes once though, despite the tons of esp files active for them.

My very rough total of active mods for Oblivion is 119. I'd say that counts as hardcoe, by the standards of your poll.

I've also made a few minor tweaks here and there to other mods, as well making a mod of my own. I plan on releasing a bunch of mods for Skyrim.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:50 am

I'll probably finish the game without mods on my first play through, then see if there's any decent mods to chuck on when I play my next one.

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:47 pm

is this for modders or people who use mods?

Apologies, I wasn't clear. I'm referring to mod users when I say "modders" in this instance.

EDIT: Tried to make the last option more inclusive.

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:28 pm

Apologies, I wasn't clear. I'm referring to mod users when I say "modders" in this instance.

EDIT: Tried to make the last option more inclusive.

You should edit your post to make that clear, modders mean people that create mods, not use them.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:14 am

I think your poll fails to account for the majority of people who install lots of mods for Oblivion.

100-200+ mods is quite common.

Was going to mention that. I saw a good number of people over on the Eyecandy forums who ran 200+ mods. (Me, I only end up around 40-50. Most of them minor things like clothes, armor, hair....)

edit: just checked. My folder of downloaded mods (I don't nearly use them all at once, and I've deleted some of the larger ones that I'll never use again) is 14GB.

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:00 pm

I play Elder Scrolls/Fallout on PC, of course I am gonna mod.

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:14 pm

You should add options for I don't play PC?Consoles.

I'm not trying to intentionally exclude any of the ES community - the nature of the question is only applicable to PC users. Again, not a slight against the huge console fan base...

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:29 am

Fair to say yeah....but downloading a mod, and applying it to Vanilla = modding the game no? maybe better to say Mod Making

The accepted and widely used terms in this community are;

Modder = maker of mods
Mod User = user of mods

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:12 am

I both mod and use mods.

Based on Morrowind and Oblivion, I'll play the game until I see something I don't like, then I'll either mod it myself or look for a mod to fix it. The only question is how long that will take. With Morrowind, it was easily 100 hours plus. With Oblivion, it wasn't more than an hour or two.

I run a couple of dozen mods on Morrowind and well over 100 on Oblivion.

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:51 pm

Really? 20+ counts as hardcoe?

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:12 am

it depends on the game, the better the game the fewer mods i need. right now im playing fallout new vegas with around 40 mods and morrowind with MGSO (which is a compilation of several graphics mods put together) and a couple of the BTB mods and creatures X. when i was playing oblivion i had over 200 mods on a few occasions simply cause there was so much that i didnt like about the game that i had to change. even with mods i download i have a tendency to heavily tweak them to suit my tastes.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:54 am

is this for modders or people who use mods?

Yeah, I wonder that too. Modding and using mods are two entirely different things.

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:16 am

I wish there where mods on consoles...

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:27 pm

I think your poll fails to account for the majority of people who install lots of mods for Oblivion.

100-200+ mods is quite common.

This

» Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:46 am

20+? More like 200+ for me. I use all kinds of mods to enhance my game and they provide me with unending replay value and as perfect a game as I could hope for. Hopefully there'll be enough fixes to the gameplay in vanilla Skyrim that I can focus less .esp space on improving lackluster vanilla features and more on entirely new and additional features.

» Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:37 pm

here is a list of the mods I have installed for Oblivion - somewhere around 150+

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Silgrad_Tower.esm  [Version 3.36]02  Jog_X_Mod.esm03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm0A  Artifacts.esm0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  Cobl - NPCDiversity - TNR Merge.esp  [Version 9.3EV-D]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]10  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  Symphony of Violence.esp13  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp14  WindowLightingSystem.esp15  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]16  FF_Real_Thirst.esp17  DLCOrrery.esp18  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]19  DLCVileLair.esp1A  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1D  DLCSpellTomes.esp1E  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]1F  ArmamentariumVendors.esp20  SnakeArmor.esp21  trfjChronoStaff.esp22  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]23  DLCThievesDen.esp24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]25  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]26  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]27  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]28  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp29  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2A  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp2B  FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2F  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]42  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]43  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]46  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]47  300_Artifacts.esp48  Artifacts.esp49  hackdirtabyss.esp4A  thievery.esp4B  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]4C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp4D  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4E  DLCFrostcrag.esp4F  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]50  Knights.esp51  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]52  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]53  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]54  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]55  xulTheHeath.esp56  XulEntiusGorge.esp57  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]58  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]59  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5A  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]5B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5C  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]5D  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]5E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]5F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]60  xulPantherRiver.esp61  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]62  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]63  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]64  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]65  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]66  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]67  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]68  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]69  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]6A  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]6B  Ashes to Ashes.esp  [Version 1.0]6C  Vampire Aging Disabled 2 XYoung.esp6D  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]6E  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp6F  1em_Vilja.esp70  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp71  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp72  tkHairPack01.esp73  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]74  ElaborateEyes.esp75  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]76  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]77  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]78  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]79  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]7A  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]7B  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]7C  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]7D  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]7E  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]7F  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]80  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]81  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.86]82  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]83  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]84  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.5]85  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]86  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]87  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp88  ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp89  HTFpcb Extended.esp8A  ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackHairsOnly.esp8B  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]8C  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.3]8D  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]8E  FormID Finder4.esp8F  Better Cities Full.esp90  Better Cities .esp91  Better Imperial City.esp92  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp93  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp94  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]95  Better Cities - Thievery.esp96  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]97  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp98  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]99  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp9A  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp9B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp9C  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 5]

I certainly hope Skyrim won't need that many

If there is an official hi res texture pack, then I will probably only install a few things to start with like

Economy mod to increase all merchant prices,
some kind of survival mod to require eating, drinking, sleeping,
hypothermia mod,
infections and diseases
something to allow me to continue to earn 1 perk per level from level 51 - theoretical max level (70-80)
maybe some magic mods if they have new spell animations or some cool spells
vampirism mod to add vampire factions (if there are none)
ENBSeries shaders and SSAO if the vanilla version isn't up to snuff
Combat overhaul mod (only if vanilla version is not challenging enough on highest difficulty setting) - probably Arwen will make something like this

I will also create a Necromancy magic overhaul mod with new spell tomes, spell animations, NPCs, some quests and possibly a joinable Necromancer faction if there is none in the vanilla game, but this will take a long time to complete.

And later I will try new quest mods and I'm sure eventually there will be huge expansion mods like Neherim and that new Russian mod whatever it's called.