From what we've seen the Falmer have only been succesful in situations where their enemy aren't aware of them and are relaxed (Travellers alone on roads, tunnelling into a bandit cave, and picking off explorers in Dwemer cities).

Those situations worked because the Falmer caught the small number of enemy by surprise, although it doesn't mean they can't fight since they do well enough against bandits, but to go out onto the surface and try and enslave the world? The second they encountered an army from the Empire, the Aldmeri Dominion, or even an Argonian army, then they would be wiped out.

I know that they really want to kill Nords because of the past. But you guys are right. It was been like 1000 years, the Falmer are other creatures from the snow elfs. Perhaps they just see us as food or as animals. But i know, they kill surface creatures for some reason. We can see tons of humans skeletons on their houses also i saw bodys on the cave.


The Thalmor suceded using strategies like the ones the Falmer uses.

Hmm...another internet to and fro of fictional characters like theyre real and actually there and can do all this while the player isnt around.

Theyre like the light in the fridge!

The Thalmor are a far more sinister and tangible threat to the world. They infiltrate, befriend, bribe and manipulate, unlike the Falmer whom are little more than monsters who don't have luxury of being able to move freely through public or hide their intentions.

Also we forget. The Falmer probaly have a better smell and can probaly hear you better. Also they could poision their arrows with Charus posion to kill enimies quickly. Also i just remeberd, they already domesticated spiders. So they have a cool poison arsneal.

No, the Thalmor's tactics of coup, counter-coup, and revolution are a bit grander than tunneling into a house and nicking stuff. The Falmer have literally no sympathisers on the surface, except mudcrabs.

And the bodies in Falmer ruins might actually be Falmer, or Dwemer.

Yeah, people are strange like that, they enjoy talking about their favorite fictional books, movies, tv shows and video games.

Yeah sure, but let's not get off: topic.

but their posion arrament isn't exclusive to them either, and can be used against them.

The Falmer are only in Skyrim. The only place I see that would be in danger of the Falmer would be Skyrim, not Tamriel. If they became recognized by all of Tamriel as a genuine threat, even the Thalmor may give assistance since they see themselves as Tamriel's masters. If that would be the case, the Falmer would likely be crushed since the Empire and the Thalmor would fight together. Though I suspect the Thalmor would sit back and let the Empire suffer casualties and then take advantage claiming that the victory was possible only because they stepped in.

ugh... I hope some future DLC has us stick it to the Thalmor.

A Single Charus is enough to take like 10 emperial soldiers don't?

Edit: Isn't an emperial soldier in the army for money? So they abilitys could not be soo good. Also they lost to the Thalmor in the great war, so the Thalmor could be a challenge to some falmers.

Walking Baths you say? Quick Pig-Pen RUN!

The falmer would be great at guerrilla warfare, but ultimately they suffer from one big disadvantage (other than the Sun): they cannot, at any time pose as a friend. As soon as one is sighted, an alarm would be sounded (whether that "alarm" was a high-pitched scream or an official alarm). Once the garrison is alerted, things just got much harder for the falmer.

Also, we have next to no idea about their culture. As far as we know, they could suffer from even worse inter-tribal warfare than humans. I don't imagine that living underground is particularly easy and resources are likely pretty scarce. That adds up to conflict.

I think they make excellent bogey-men and they kept me from going into several places until I was in my late 30's level-wise.

Oh yeah, don't knock the professional soldier; someone who chose to be one is much more likely to be a better one.

I wouldn't chack up the legionaries to being in it 'just for the money' and in fact many let you know their feelings personally in Skyrim. The Thalmor were turned back in the Great War, and only did so well via initial shock and awe as well as supprise. Once the Empire had time to organize itself, the Thalmor were driven wholey out of Cyrodiil. There was a reason the Aldmeri soldier was known as 'Old Merry' by the legions during Tiber Septims day ya know.

They didn't. At least, not as soon as Titus Mede II got his act together: they marched down to the Imperial City and slaughtered the entire occupying army.

Charus does the job. And about gameplay, yes a falmer shadowmaster can take a giant down as well as you. But in LORE terms the Falmer would use alot of strategie and atack only on the night.

And about the poison. Yeah we could use their poisions agaisn't them. But to do that we need to kill some Charus. So some soldiers were going to get killed in the process. Also the Falmer wouldn't care if someone stole their posions to use agaisn't them. it would make the same effects in booth sides.

I can see that the Falmer could plentily smash cities. If Yasgramor and his 500 soldiers killed thousands of snow elfs, why they can't? If Tiber Septim conquered Tamriel with an small army, why the Falmer can't? Anyway wee must see the results in the LORE. I know that the Falmer are a big problem. Strategie i say.

Because the Falmer know nothing of grand stratagy, have no known prowess in war (real war, not tribal conflicts or petty raids) have no central leadership, are blind, have no siege equipment, and all around don't have the overall ability (that we know of) to organize into cohereant armies powerful enough to stand up to any well trained proffesonal army. Yasgramor's story is likely something akin to the '300 spartans', and I wouldn't take it at face value. Tiber had a huge army, supported by the Nords and everyone else who fled to join his ranks. Lore clearly states Skyrim all but threw in unyielding support behind him as Dragonborn. Tiber also used political savvy, trechery and huge robot. None of these in which the Falmer have.

I've seen no evidence of their ability to stratagize anything greater than hunting habits.

They could burrow up out of the ground and take a city by surprise overwhelming its defences, but they couldn't really hold it. Since they are blind they would have problems operating on the surface, forming land armies, manning outdoor fortifications and so on.
The Imperials would also have trouble taking the war to the Falmer domain because they wouldn't operate well in dark, confined spaces.

Burrowing requires them to know where the city is, and the architecture as well. Sappers were a skilled group in real life and would be in lore. If they knew nothing of the city or its defences, they could do little against it.

This is why they have domesticated animals. Spiders could reproduce in the hundreds and the Charus have a very tought skin as well can take down enimies easily. The spider web would help alot to hold the city.

Except, the Imperial forces seem to be better at bringing light with them than the falmer are at bringing darkness with them. When they can create huge areas of extreme darkness, even during the daytime, then the surface world has to really watch out. (You are welcome Bethesda.)

You gaved me an idea:
" The Falmer discovere a magic that could make the sun stoping of appearing at all. So with time the Falmer would be conquering Skyrim"

The Thalmor can do feel thing if we are talking about trying to get into cities full of spiders as well as spider web.

Hard to discover new magicka if you cant read isn't it? I mean, you have to read and study magicka to learn it.

The Falmer have their own language which is written a bit like brail.

Indeed, but most magicka isn't written in brail now is it?