About The Falmer... i think that Tamriel is literally screwe

Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:58 am

So i was playing as a thief, level 44 right now. After doing some guilds quests i decided do the companions main quest. Then Vikas asked me to kill some Falmer's in a cave. The intersting was:

"I need you to kill some Falmer, they were atacking the towns people while the people sleep".

We know that the Falmer are already on the surface, but we don't see them at the sun light. I have an theory that could expplain that, and would explain how they can win a war agaisn't Aldmeri Dominion,

So i got inside the cave, after i kill some Falmer's. One of them, well a shadowmaster spoted me. While i tried to hide he was making a very intersting noise and only at 1 direction, bandits and other creatures doesn't do that, even bears and trolls search around for you.... but no. The falmers stayed on the same place making a very intersting noise while pointing their heads to the walls. Like if they were trying to smell something.

I noticed also that the Falmer are very smart in terms of making hidden forts and bases. At the quest that farkas gaved me they were able to hide inside caverns with nordic puzzles, i never saw that kind of puzzle in the game before. What i need to do was:

"Get some ingredients from the cave and put in the magic fire".

Also we know tha they are able to create houses, fences and chests by using Charus chatin's. This means they have a huge quanty of charus, or a charus farm to create structures like those.

Also the Falmer were trying to ambush me from behind. While i was sneaking in the cavern they jumped from the cave walls by some wholes digged in the walls.

Also at some quests i noticed that the Falmer can domesticate creatures like skeevers to fight for them. On the Dwemer caves i saw skeevers trapped on falmer fences. The intersting is, there was no indications of skeever bodys. This means that they weren't trying to eat them. But yes, trying to domesticate them. An biological weapon like skeevers could make an entire town sick and then the perfect time to a Falmer ambush.

So after i watch the anatomy of the Falmer's i discovered that they are basically baths with legs. Their blind maked them evolve to creatures that uses ultrasound to hunt. So basically they can go around at night in Skyrim. And kill everyone in the town easily by knowing their location.

From what i've seen i think the Falmer are very capble of taking over Tamriel by using their tatics. Ambushing, using domesticated animals, bows, echolocation vision and magic.... well i hope that Windhelm walls are bigger.

Edit: I just remeberd. The Falmer seems to love poison. We can find a very cool variety of poisons while looting their bodies. Also while doing the Thieves Guild quest i saw domesticated spiders by them. What can those poisons do, to a bear?
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Claire Lynham
 
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:44 am

lets kill it like gore said to kill manbearpig, poor molten lead into their caves!!
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:40 am

Have no fear, The Empire shall protect us all!!!
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:46 am

Do they actually attack towns? I have heard them say it, but I havent seen a falmer above ground yet.
edit: Right after posting, I saw wagon with dead reguards and falmer arrows in/Around them O.o
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:06 am

yes falmer are deadly little bastards, I imagine that there must be millions of them underground by now, and one day they will take revenge on the men and mer of the world.

could make a very cool game btw
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:16 am

Fear the subterranean Mer reavers...
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:29 am

Falmer have a huge weakness, they are blind. They may have better senses due to being blind but not being able to see will hurt them.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:09 pm

Well, then I would employ a choir of terrible Nordic bards to disrupt their bat-like sonar abilities. I knew that bard college had to be good for something.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:54 pm

These Falmers look like vampires to me.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:09 pm

Falmer have a huge weakness, they are blind. They may have better senses due to being blind but not being able to see will hurt them.
I've been hit with enough falmer arrows to say for certain that blindness isn't hurting them at all.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:02 pm

Falmer take over Tamriel? nah. Not even in our wildist dreams.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:50 pm

I've been hit with enough falmer arrows to say for certain that blindness isn't hurting them at all.
They are using sonar to find you, works better than eyes. Just ask Marvel's Daredevil.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:44 am

Well, then I would employ a choir of terrible Nordic bards to disrupt their bat-like sonar abilities. I knew that bard college had to be good for something.
As i said before, at night they are overpowerd as a thief player. They can know excatly where the gaurds are and then just take them by the behind.


Falmer take over Tamriel? nah. Not even in our wildist dreams.

We are talking about tens... if not hundreds of thousands of creatures that lived underground with no contact with the surface. This was enough to they reproduce quickly and gather an army of Charus. Did you saw what a Charus reaper is capble of? Probaly the Dwemer machines are holding them. But they will all get broken anytime.

Edit: The entire Falmer population are of soldiers. I don't saw any female Falmer, so i don't know for sure. The females could just be the mage Falmers just like the Hargraven's and the Forsowrn.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:04 pm

We are talking about tens... if not hundreds of thousands of creatures that lived underground with no contact with the surface. This was enough to they reproduce quickly and gather an army of Charus. Did you saw what a Charus reaper is capble of? Probaly the Dwemer machines are holding them. But they will all get broken anytime.

Edit: The entire Falmer population are of soldiers. I don't saw any female Falmer, so i don't know for sure. The females could just be the mage Falmers just like the Hargraven's and the Forsowrn.
They don't like the daylight too much so I could only see nighttime raids as an option and when you can't be outside for half if not more of the day there's no way you could maintain an effective siege.

Edit:Typo
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:31 pm

They don't like the daylight too much so I could only see nighttime raids as an option and when you can't be outside for half if not more of the day there's no way you could maintain an effective siege.

Edit:Typo
I saw a Charus killing some Horker's next to Morthal around 6 A.M. This means they could just send Charus on the sunlight while they recovered from night battles.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:52 pm

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We are talking about tens... if not hundreds of thousands of creatures that lived underground with no contact with the surface. This was enough to they reproduce quickly and gather an army of Charus. Did you saw what a Charus reaper is capble of? Probaly the Dwemer machines are holding them. But they will all get broken anytime.

Edit: The entire Falmer population are of soldiers. I don't saw any female Falmer, so i don't know for sure. The females could just be the mage Falmers just like the Hargraven's and the Forsowrn.

If my lone warrior can walk into a cave, take on about twenty of them (not using magicka or Thu'ums) and come out alive then I have no doubt that they could be defeated by well organized armies of the nations of Tamriel. They've been in hiding since what? their deffeat during the first setteling of Tamriel by the Nords? not only that but they were defeated when they were in their full prowess of battle and the glory of their civilization.

edit: On your soldier bit, how so? They hunt, but thats it. They don't war, save for limited raids not far from their caves, and by the standards of a traditonal, well trained soldier I don't believe they would stand a chance.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:57 pm

Hold on. Falmer are Elves. Elves reproduce a lot slower than humans, so their numbers wouldn't be massive. Their fighting prowess is doubtful, too: it's four thousand years since their imprisonment, and some of them haven't even managed to conquer the Dwarven ruins which they inhabit. We have no idea how intelligent they are or how much of their magical skill they've retained, or what their society is like.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:07 pm

If my lone warrior can walk into a cave, take on about twenty of them (not using magicka or Thu'ums) and come out alive then I have no doubt that they could be defeated by well organized armies of the nations of Tamriel. They've been in hiding since what? their deffeat during the first setteling of Tamriel by the Nords? not only that but they were defeated when they were in their full prowess of battle and the glory of their civilization.

edit: On your soldier bit, how so? They hunt, but thats it. They don't war, save for limited raids not far from their caves, and by the standards of a traditonal, well trained soldier I don't believe they would stand a chance.
The game stated that they wanted to kill everybody on the surface. Anyway you are talking about Dovakhiin. LORE is diferent from the gameplay. Dovakhiin Thu'um can destroy entire mountains as the Greybeards stated.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:37 pm

Do they actually attack towns? I have heard them say it, but I havent seen a falmer above ground yet.
edit: Right after posting, I saw wagon with dead reguards and falmer arrows in/Around them O.o

Vilkas or Farkas, I can't remember which, tells you that the Falmer burrow up into people's homes, and then sends you on a quest to recover something taken by them from a Whiterun house. That makes them feel much more creepy and insidious.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:35 am

The game stated that they wanted to kill everybody on the surface.

That's written from the perspective of either a neutral developer or the surface world. Either way, it's not lore.

The Falmer do seem to have an interest in acquiring objects from the surface world, but there's no way of knowing what their intentions are: 'destroy the surface world' seems a bit of a lofty ambition.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:50 am

The game says they 'despise' the surface world, however, that doesn't mean that they would successed if they tired to destroy it and I've seen little to imply that they would. The only special about the Dragonborn is that he can inherintly use the Thuum without years of dedicated study and that he has a dragon soul. He however is not inherently the master of all things like sword play or archery. Gameplay wise, like you said, sure he is because it would svck if your character constantly got his ass handed to him but even in lore theirs far too many factors that play against the Falmer for them to ever be succesful. They make good boogymen, but thats about it.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:41 pm

If they were smart enough they could tunnel under forts maybe even steal some better equipment. Biggest flaw is equipment and better spell training with that they would be some seriously fearsome foes. There are lots of them they seem really focused on war so they wouldn't have the petty politics of the surface dwellers slowing them down. They would easily win by attrition (with their guerrilla warfare and the fact they are only killed by one person(you who can also slaughter entire forts single handily)) but don't expect a successful full scale invasion.
P.S. playing on master with no HUD makes them extremely powerful(you can see them most of the time while they keep hitting you with arrows)
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:50 pm

To bad they're blind and are only suited to cave fighting.
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Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:41 pm

I they were smart enough they could tunnel under forts maybe even steal some better equipment. Biggest flaw is equipment and better spell training with that they would be some seriously fearsome foes. There are lots of them they seem really focused on war so they wouldn't have the petty politics of the surface dwellers slowing them down. They would easily win by attrition but don't expect a successful full scale invasion.

We know next to nothing about them, and there is no war for them to speak of unless its infighting between them. Their are no records of Skyrim ever fighting them after their desent and enslavement by the Dwenmer. All it takes is enough attrociites to get people riled up and then the nations of Tamriel uniting to destroy them, much like they tend to do when something threatens the whole of Tamriel.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:40 am

These Falmers look like vampires to me.

They don't sparkle.
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