Uh...that would do a little more than just make it so the falmer could go to the surface of the world (the part facing away from the sun). Ultimately, I think it would make the entire world unlivable - including the subterranean world.

It would be much more plausible (and make for overall better play/story) if they just discovered something that would allow them to create "globes" of darkness hundreds of feet or yards across. An item powered by a soul gem with the strength of the gem determining the size of the area of darkness. So, the job for the PC would be to infiltrate the falmer held area, locate the gem, and either destroy it or just take it to banish the darkness.

Hmm, interesting.

I see magicka similar to music, some may read music and be able to perform beautifully, whilst some others who are blind will have this 'natural gift' inside them that allows them to respond to music in ways others can't. Falmer have got skills in magicka already, so I don't see 'not being able to read' as an excuse to hold them back.

But on topic, I don't see the falmer being able to do anything above ground that isn't isolated hunting at night, they don't seem to have the co-ordination to take on groups of enemies.

They have been successful domesticating chaurus and giant spiders though, as others have said, but the birth rates of these animals seem minimal. Although I come across 1000s of chaurus eggs I only ever see 2 or 3 chaurus together at one time.

The key word here is: written. Brail is just another form of language.

Yeah, i don't know but. What can the Eye of Magnus do? Isn't impossible to creare a storm that cover's the sun. Also one time or another these eggs will hatch. And as wee can see there are thousands of Charus eggs. I can't imagine all of them hatching at once.

The eye is taken away though, I imagine it has the power of immortality to who ever is connected to it, until the eye is drained the person can't be killed. Thats one use I've seen.

Well like I said, I've seen 100s of chaurus eggs in the same place, with only 3 or 4 chaurus, usually in pens kept by the falmer. I don't think the developers thought to much about this though ha.

I honestly don't think the learning/understanding of magicka is solely down to books.

I see the Falmer as being goblins. They have too many restrictions that hold them back, preventing them from being a major threat or even recognized widely, spend most of their time underground or away from the sun, attack in large numbers by ambushing or swarming. Three or four Falmer aren't much but with all of their creepy crawlies, sheer numbers and a few Shadowmaster's they can be very dangerous. Gameplay wise I punch them in the face with my epic mustache and drink copious amounts of mead as I slay countless hordes.

Certainly not, however it is the easiest way to deliver it to the massess, and unless these Falmer have the ability to just instantly understand and use, then someone is going to have to teach them. Knowledge is past on through words and books afterall and its pretty clear the Falmer don't have the same understanding as men and unaltered mer do. Aside from some horror story ending, the Falmer just aren't in the position to prove a threat to the surface world.

Sure, but to say that not being able to learn something from braille that you can learn from writing is sort of, well, silly. Braille is writing. Just because it has "bumps" doesn't mean it isn't a form of communication, specifically written communication. Some of the earliest forms of human written language had "bumps." fF something can be learned through writing, it can be learned through braille.

I see them something like this also, barring any major power jumps - like getting the ability to shut off the sun - they are unlikely to be a big threat to the surface residents. I don't see the Falmer Wars happening anytime soon.

I completely agree that they wouldn't be a threat (see my above comment), not every single Falmer needs to understand magic, some of them rather use weapons. Others have the ability to use magicka naturally.

Also am I missing something, they can go in the sun can't they? They aren't vampires. It's only being blind that holds them back.

Yeah, that could be a big problem. Hundreds of chaurus, even young ones would cause all manner of chaos. Jeez, I remember getting anywhere from 30-40 eggs from one little cave. Later on, I got even more, until I was hauling around 100 eggs! Crazy!

Maybe they are like some animals here on Earth (though, for the life of me I can't think of an example right now -D-oh!) where the young that hatch early cannibalize the others, so only a few will survive out of a dozen, or 20, or whatever. Also, maybe the falmer eat them as well as use them for guard animals. I don't think that would be a first, either.

Unless there are some tomes out there, already in brail with the Falmers new subeterainian brail language (note they didn't read in brail to begin with that we know of), then no they won't be able to read it. If you put down a book in front of blind person are they going to be able to study it and learn it like some other laungage? No. Someone, who can see, with knowledge of the brail language would have to transcribe it so that they would be able to learn it.

Good point, some lizards will do this, monitor lizards IIRC act this way.

I would like to see some falmer DLC action, maybe they do surface and take over some areas. Could be interesting.

They are no problem for me though, the game considers the poison spit as magical damage, so it's absorbed by the atronach effect ha.

The falmer look to be primitive in the way they build, hunt and kill. To say that they could "rise up" would mean they would need a leader. The only way that they could is if in some far out dimension where the Thalmor could use them for night raids.

Apart from that i couldn't see there being a Falmer uprising simply because of the intelligence and organisation it would take to formulate a takeover where all you can do is fight in the night.

They could eat the mushrooms, their mounth anatomy states that they were not made to eat flesh. But yes, other things. Also probaly those Charus are just their fathers and moms. You will notice that the Charus Creapers are much bigger than normal Charus. Perhaps, they reproduce quickly. But the babies takes a long time to grow up or die too quickly when young. This would explain the great egg numbers, they are trying to survive. But since the falmer domesticated them. It would be like cowns, chickens and fishes. They would reproduce alot, and the charus population would grew up insanily. So hundreds of Charus on the battlefield would make diference.

Unless, as former snow elves (right, I don't know enough about the setting to say for sure), they brought the knowledge with them, and just transferred it. I don't know. Could be.

Me too. I think that was the one I mentioned when the thread about possible DLCs popped up a while back. They are sufficiently tough, that given a little boost, to overcome the daylight problem (Is it a physical or mental problem?) they could be a big threat.

Heres the sticker though. Animals, no matter what, are not going to be able to stand up against an army of proffesional soldiers. Hundreds of Charus' led by blind Falmer aren't going to be able to stand up to an army who have more resources and cunning at their command. That being said, if were just going with war beasts then whats to say the Empire or whoever else they face like the Nords couldn't taim other beasts like Mamouths or employ Giants who would smush the Charus' and their handlers under their clubs/feat?

Falmer make all their weapons and armor from chaurus chitin as well, so they must get through quite a few chaurus. Also it's not like you can explore every inch of the land, there could be 100s of chaurus located in various places that we can't access.

Also giant spiders, which Falmer keep. They have a good number of eggs laying about.

Do remember this is a game where one man can take on 20 people armored to the teeth.

The fact that they are blind when talking about their combat style isn't useful. They seem to be able to fight very well regardless of sight, I assume through compensation of other senses.

It's difficult to compare to real life, what may look similar probably isn't. I believe the higher level falmer would be able to take on giants without much difficulty, they are tough.

In lore the mer aren't on a leveling system that would level with the player. Gameplay wise, certainly there are higher 'levels' however when talking about what they are capable of you shouldn't assume that there are super ones out there that can take on Giants who are powerful in both lore and in game. The Falmer however, are a recent addition for the most part, as they were assumed dead and gone.

I wasn't assuming, I have fought the falmer shadowmasters at high levels and they are much harder than giants. They are nimble, use magicka and weapons, giants on the other hand are slow and predictable.

No way, no how are the falmer a real threat to anything but villagers.

Which is game mechanics, something you can't count 100% on when it comes to lore. We all know that the Battle of Whiterun didn't happen with three catapults and a dozen soldiers and the Markath doesn't have fifty inhabitant at most. Just like how we know in a hypothetical real world ES that blind, Falmer Shadowmasters aren't likely going to stand up to Giant's in a one on one fight. Just like an arrow to the throat could take down the most powerful mage and how most people cant take several arrows to the face and still come at you.

On the average, i wouldn't bet against the "people" in this scenario either, unless the numbers and general toughness of the animals were both (or either) so high as to make human resourcefulness moot. (Just because we haven't encountered that beast, doesn't mean they don't exist.)

I think the main problem the Falmer are going to face is all the inbreeding they've been doing in those caves for the last three eras of recorded history.