Admit it, mr. Howard, you were wrong

Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:37 am

For those people claiming 3D is going to die out and go away, I just want to mention that I own an antique stereoscopic viewer that's about 100 years old. If not older. It's got a date etched into the wood (1897), but I think that has to do with it's Pat ID.
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Darlene Delk
 
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:39 am

As much as the haters will hate it, 3D tech will never go away. Why? The holy grail of 3D tech: 3D porm :banana:

Already been done and it was a flop; pun intended :)
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:48 am

Has is really been sixty years? I had no idea. But if that's true than you have to at least admit that the boffins have made some progress with 3D technology in that time. Something as complex as bringing a flat image into the 3rd dimension doesn't happen overnight.
But that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. It hasn't progressed much in 60 years

I'll admit too that humans may not be ready for such visual stimulation. I've suffered headaches and a funny feeling in my eyes while simply trying SF4 on the 3DS at the local game shop but I still think 3D has a chance in the future.
Humans may not be ready? You just described the limitations of the technology, not of the viewer. It's the the technology that isn't ready. I don't know if you've ever considered this, but the human eye and brain are pretty darn advanced technology in their own right.

As much as the haters will hate it, 3D tech will never go away.
As much as you hate to face it, 3D has gone away... and then resurfaced... and then gone away again....
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:01 am

Check the Wikipedia page for 3D television. The first 3D motion picture was invented in 1890
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:35 pm

Being blind in one eye all 3D does is give me a headache. So I don't care one way or another as long a 2D version is available and I don't have to pay extra for someone else to get their kicks.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:18 am

3d svcks they simply use it too make crapy movies good(avatar), also ive heard it can make you feel sick when viewed for too long, not sure tho, i think they should concentrate on makeing games look alot more realistic, getting rid of lag and makeing games bigger, then once they master all that, maby then they should move on to 3d.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:45 pm

http://raycheesemester2.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1950s-3d-movies.jpg


[Oh, and there is a world of difference between 'you were wrong' and 'you have different priorities to me'.]
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:54 am

I told my girlfriend that I didn't want to see a film in 3D, because due to neurological problems anything that causes eye strain also makes me fall asleep. She was furious when I started snoring 20 mins into Avatar.

(Although to be honest, the plot didn't help with that, either)
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:19 pm

its like this...Have you played the most recent patch? Yeah well if something gets a bit off-kilter, it can start sending your game into shadow spasms -- shadows projected as solid propagating lines based on what you are under at the time. Passing over a bridge? A line of darkness moves across the town, which vanishes after. Under a tree? Lightdarklightdarklightdark flickering endlessly for each branch.

And thats ignoring the fact that I'm pretty sure shadows dont make stripes like that. I already get a migraine from the game. I dont need to get motion sickness too.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:32 pm

But that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. It hasn't progressed much in 60 years

And like I said before what they are trying to accomplish is no simple thing. Since mankind has been flying around in balloons it has been striving for more and perfecting the technology. I'm pretty sure there were people like you several hundred years ago mocking the very first balloon flight and now mankind is venturing into space. Give it time.

Everything changes and evolves. Very few things ever stand still. I just see 3D as the next step in a long line of advances in the entertainment industry.


Humans may not be ready? You just described the limitations of the technology, not of the viewer. It's the the technology that isn't ready. I don't know if you've ever considered this, but the human eye and brain are pretty darn advanced technology in their own right.

Very true and a good point but they are the limitations of the technology as of today. How about in another twenty years? And yes, I'm well aware that our bodies are extraordinarily sophisticated.


As much as you hate to face it, 3D has gone away... and then resurfaced... and then gone away again....

You seem to think I'm a 3D fan. This is funny as I am not. I don't own any 3D tech and will not do so until they start producing holodecks. I just think it's getting a rough deal recently and am trying look at things logically. I'm sure it will be back (that's if you believe it has already gone away again) as big business has invested too much money in it for it not to succeed.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:22 pm

Oh, f""k no. If you want a real Skyrim experience, eat some shrooms and be done with it. 3D is an unecessary gimmick in any form of media.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:00 am

Remember telling in interview: "Honestly, I couldn't care less - having to wear those glasses! I'm not a 3D fan. It ruins the image for me"?
I really hope you'd try Skyrim in 3D like I did. With all the great mods that make it look ultra realistic, extreme graphic settings, perfect depth of Nvidia 3D Vision Technology and amazing HMZ-T1. Because vanilla Skyrim is just a beautiful game. Skyrim the way I saw it - portal to another world that looks as real as the one we used to.
Played about 30 hours of Skyrim in 3D and had more "holy [censored]" moments then in 20 years of my gaming experience.
No need for this. No need for 3D cinema either.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:53 pm

Well, I dont know whats wrong there for you, but for me and many others 3D definetly makes huge difference.
Thats the key point here. For you and some others, but not everyone. I personally hate 3D and would gladly give my left nut to see 3D quietly tucked away for its 20 year slumber already. I hate everything about 3D (and touch screens... dear god), but that's just my personal preference. You like 3D. cool, fantastic, just keep it the [censored] away from me.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:33 pm

Rare arrows and everything else that claimed to present a "challenge" in this game = hype and lies to sell pre-orders. This is 2012. It shouldn't surprise you by now. I just hope all the $$$,$$$,$$$ they made from the hype and lies can allow them to acutally make a COMPLETE Elder Scrolls 6. Seriously Beth take your time on the next one.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:23 am

@Echonite. I don't blame you with the touch screens. Most (maybe all of them) have that glossy coat. The fingerprints you get on them makes the screen looks grubby. I don't like touch my screen though it matted.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:52 pm

I'm sorry but tell me in what way is it worth it to pay almost 300 plus another 100 per eye glass set for a fad?

People buy cars and spend thousands to make them go faster with turbo's and various engine mods even though the max legal speed in the country will never allow them to use it. People go hang gliding, mountain climbing, powerboat racing and much more and spend thousands for equipment on these "fads". I think 500 bucks is a good deal compared to that.

I enjoy playing a game in 3D, it gives me more chance to get immersed in the game. I can become the character in the game more easily, I can be a master thief or master assassin or master swordsman and forget my dull real life for a while.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:15 am

Thats the key point here. For you and some others, but not everyone. I personally hate 3D and would gladly give my left nut to see 3D quietly tucked away for its 20 year slumber already. I hate everything about 3D

The point is that people who "hate 3D", "dont see the point", "see not difference" are either people who never saw 3D tech at all or saw bad examples of it. Plain and simple. I have a friend who was more sceptic and critic then any of you. After hearing all the common talks how gimmick it is I invited him to play some games on my system. Kid went home completely convinced the thing is real and I even saw him defending 3D on forums the other day. Once you try it you never come back.

As for eyes strain and headaches Im no judge here. I have none at all, but Ive been playing video games for too long and my eyes are kinda immunite. One thing youre right, current 3D tech is far from perfect. When we get glasses working similar to Head Mounted Displays, but lightweight, cheap and with 180` FoV this will star a new era of gaming. For now Im happy with what we have
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:57 pm

3-D technology is basically the same as when it was first thought of at the turn of the last century - stereoscopic images. Two photographs of the same subject taken at slightly different angles then projected into each eye to give the illusion of depth. But it can't recreate true depth perception; it's more like a lot of cutouts placed one in front of the other.

I had one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View-Master when I was a kid, and while it did have a certain "oooh" factor as I saw Tarzan swinging through cutout trees, it was nothing new then and slapping the same effect on a TV screen isn't new now. Now, when they invent holographic TV that will be something.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:51 pm



People buy cars and spend thousands to make them go faster with turbo's and various engine mods even though the max legal speed in the country will never allow them to use it. People go hang gliding, mountain climbing, powerboat racing and much more and spend thousands for equipment on these "fads". I think 500 bucks is a good deal compared to that.

You just described things that are not fads.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:50 pm



This.

It looks amazing in 2D, and I personally believe that there's nothing special about 3D (and yes, I've watched plenty of modern 3D media). It's a gimmick, nothing more and a complete waste of money IMO.

That's what people say 10 years ago about 6th generation graphics(ps 2, Xbox).
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:00 pm



That's what people say 10 years ago about 6th generation graphics(ps 2, Xbox).

Um.. No. People loved it. And was thought of as the best thing to happen for games. The motion stuff is a fad type thing.

Ps1/n64 brought 3d games.

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Um.. No. People loved it. And was thought of as the best thing to happen for games. The motion stuff is a fad type thing.

Ps1/n64 brought 3d games.

I'm talking about the "graphics are good enough" and "couldn't believe (new tech) would be prevalent" part.

Those two are what many people said 10 years ago, which are proven wrong not long ago. But people nowadays are still saying something similar, which will be likely proven wrong as well a few years later.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:04 am

3D really isn't that exspensive anymore. I've a Samsung 37 inch Internet 3-D TV which costs £599. A little more than others but the build in wireless more than makes up for that.

I personally can't wait till 3-D games are created as mainstream options. Yeah you could say its a gimmick but I personally feel that it has a lot to offer the gaming industry. Would certainly give the whole arrow in the knee thing more off an edge if it appeared to actually fly out of the screen.

Industry is always evolving.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:20 am

Of course technology evolves. We can see that graphics have improved, ways of controlling games, etc. etc.

But also remember: the minidisc. The dreamcast. The Amstrad videophone. They were also the evolving future at one point, and they all missed the mark for some reason or other.

With 3D, I just think it's been pushed for so long - as gloops said, it's still essentially the same idea as back in the 50's or before - that it would have caught on more by now if it was ever going to become the norm.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:29 pm

3D is a gimmick best taken in small doses unless you constantly wish to have a raging migraine.
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