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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:50 am

I was just wondering if anyone had tried the Radeon Driver 12.3 and if it worked better than the 12.2. I know that 12.2 had some major problems so I just wanted some feedback before I install this new one.
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Luna Lovegood
 
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:15 am

It does works better, no more strange pixels all over the place with AA/AF enabled.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:35 am

I'd recommend upgrading if you don't have a Crossfire set-up. 12.3 does some weird things with Crossfire...flickering problems, and not properly downclocking at idle unless you run a 3D application first. (So at first system boot, one of your two cards will be clocked at 3D speeds rather than 2D--which causes a major jump in temperatures. If you were to boot a 3D application, like Skyrim, then quit it, both cards would downclock appropriately. :wacko:)

If you've got a single card though, go for it. I moved to 12.3 when they first came out (hooray for being a forum guinea pig :P) and haven't had a problem with them. They work great with Skyrim.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:58 am

I believe I have 12.3 on my Radeon 6870 and since upgrading the drivers, I now see items/locations revert to a purple/light grey-green color and lose texture, from time to time. The most common occurrence is with my torch.

This COULD be a mod. I haven't figured it out yet.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:45 am

I had issues upgrading my 5870 to the latest. Purple pixels everywhere. Not my mod (tried with and without my single mod).
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:37 am

I downloaded it and it worked, for a while, then after I turned off crossfire it wouldn't even load the game. I would get to the launcher, I would hit play, and the game would go to a small black window that said skyrim and then crash.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:23 pm

I downloaded it and it worked, for a while, then after I turned off crossfire it wouldn't even load the game. I would get to the launcher, I would hit play, and the game would go to a small black window that said skyrim and then crash.
Did everything work fine when you rolled back the driver?
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:41 am

No I just rolled back and it still does the same thing.
Should I try to reinstall?
Tried to reinstall still did nothing, still won't launch right without crossfire.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:44 pm

It does works better, no more strange pixels all over the place with AA/AF enabled.

What do you mean by "strange pixels all over the place"?
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:45 am

What do you mean by "strange pixels all over the place"?

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558687742002887420/F83A3D1E038D6C86B1F45A0357CF846E504750CA/.

It's very obvious and quite different from your standard overheating/artifacting. Also, I have answered so many questions regarding it I'm pretty sure I'm now seeing gray pixel squares in my dreams. :P
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 10:13 pm

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558687742002887420/F83A3D1E038D6C86B1F45A0357CF846E504750CA/.

It's very obvious and quite different from your standard overheating/artifacting. Also, I have answered so many questions regarding it I'm pretty sure I'm now seeing gray pixel squares in my dreams. :tongue:

Never seen anything like that with anisotropic filtering, anti aliasing or FXAA, with any version of Skyrim or any of the AMD drivers I've had installed.

Is it possible that was related to your Catalyst A.I. settings in your CCC menu? I've seen slightly similar artifacting due to the Catalyst A.I. setting for other games.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:42 am

Is it possible that was related to your Catalyst A.I. settings in your CCC menu? I've seen slightly similar artifacting due to the Catalyst A.I. setting for other games.

I never experienced this on my own system because I never installed the 12.2 drivers. People started reporting this bug when the pre-WHQL 12.2s came out, and that combined with a bunch of other bugs and it being a generally poor release prompted me to skip it entirely. I went straight from 12.1 to 12.3.

I can't say for sure about the CCC settings and whatnot, since again, never experienced it personally due to skipping the drivers. But given how many people I had to troubleshoot this for...the only common factor was the 12.2 driver set that came out at the beginning of March. (Granted I didn't exactly ask everyone for their CCC settings, but I saw it on many many 5xxx and 6xxx series cards, stocked and overclocked, etc.--the only people who didn't seem to have the gray pixels of doom were 7xxx series owners). It was a known issue when they came out and listed as much http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion122ReleaseNotes.aspx by AMD.

Did you skip the 12.2 set, by any chance? That would be why you didn't see it.

Edit: Also, the picture I linked to isn't the worst presentation of it I've seen...just the only readily available link I had. That's pretty modest, actually, and usually gets worse in actual gameplay vs. the opening scenes. I've seen screenshots where entire lakes/rivers have turned into gray pixel wireframes, for instance.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:06 am

I never experienced this on my own system because I never installed the 12.2 drivers. People started reporting this bug when the pre-WHQL 12.2s came out, and that combined with a bunch of other bugs and it being a generally poor release prompted me to skip it entirely. I went straight from 12.1 to 12.3.

I can't say for sure about the CCC settings and whatnot, since again, never experienced it personally due to skipping the drivers. But given how many people I had to troubleshoot this for...the only common factor was the 12.2 driver set that came out at the beginning of March. (Granted I didn't exactly ask everyone for their CCC settings, but I saw it on many many 5xxx and 6xxx series cards, stocked and overclocked, etc.--the only people who didn't seem to have the gray pixels of doom were 7xxx series owners). It was a known issue when they came out and listed as much http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion122ReleaseNotes.aspx by AMD.

Did you skip the 12.2 set, by any chance? That would be why you didn't see it.

Perhaps so, as I'm still using 12.1 - been meaning to update but just haven't gotten around to it yet. :tongue:
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:14 am

Did everything work fine when you rolled back the driver?
No I just rolled back and it still does the same thing.
Tried to reinstall still did nothing, still won't launch right without crossfire.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:39 pm

No I just rolled back and it still does the same thing.
Tried to reinstall still did nothing, still won't launch right without crossfire.
Rolling it back should have resolved the issue. Hmm, did you make any other environmental changes that you can think of in the meantime?
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:24 am

How did you reinstall? Just installing the older version on top of the newer won't help.

Even the catalyst uninstall tends to leave behind remnants - to be on the safe side try running http://phyxion.net/Driver-Sweeper/Driver-Sweeper/

Having said that - If you have any other AMD hardware (motherboard, CPU) it might be better to avoid both the full AMD uninstall option and Driver Sweeper as you don't want anything removed by mistake!

Edit: to add - make sure once you've uninstalled the driver you want to remove, restart the pc. Run driver sweeper if required. Install the new driver you want to replace it with, and let it restart again.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:11 pm

With 12.3, I'm still unable to force AA settings in CCC or ATI Tray Tools, or Radeon Pro for that matter. The last ATI driver pack that had functioning AA for me was 11.10. From 11.11 and up, AA is broken and I'm getting pretty [censored] sick of it. If I wasn't so strapped for cash, I would switch to Nvidia. Guess that's what you get for trying to get the best "bang for your buck".
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:01 am

12.4 is up, it got some nice fixes for skyrim.

http://www.techpowerup.com/164840/AMD-Releases-the-Catalyst-12.4-WHQL-Driver.html


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Actually... just stay away from these horrible drivers, they claim to give 80% more performance with MLAA and they do exactly the opposite, they cut 80% of my performance when using MLAA and if it werent enough i lost 6fps on average when MLAA is turned off, also the flickering on mountains and water became MORE NOTICEABLE... im done with AMD and their nasty Drivers, this is my last AMD setup, im rolling back to 12.3...
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:04 am

12.4 is up, it got some nice fixes for skyrim.

http://www.techpowerup.com/164840/AMD-Releases-the-Catalyst-12.4-WHQL-Driver.html


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Actually... just stay away from these horrible drivers, they claim to give 80% more performance with MLAA and they do exactly the opposite, they cut 80% of my performance when using MLAA and if it werent enough i lost 6fps on average when MLAA is turned off, also the flickering on mountains and water became MORE NOTICEABLE... im done with AMD and their nasty Drivers, this is my last AMD setup, im rolling back to 12.3...

How is the performance with FXAA and 12.4 or 12.3?

I'm still on 12.1, usually crank all the settings to the max except turn off AA and use FXAA instead.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:32 pm

Actually... just stay away from these horrible drivers, they claim to give 80% more performance with MLAA and they do exactly the opposite, they cut 80% of my performance when using MLAA and if it werent enough i lost 6fps on average when MLAA is turned off, also the flickering on mountains and water became MORE NOTICEABLE... im done with AMD and their nasty Drivers, this is my last AMD setup, im rolling back to 12.3...

I'll wait and see how reviews are the next couple days and then maybe upgrade for myself and see what's what, although I don't use MLAA (standard AA works fine for me), which seems to be the primary benefit (supposedly) offered by this set. Which card do you have, btw? Those improvements seem to be directed mostly at 7xxx and 6xxx series.

Looks like MSI Afterburner's just gotten 2.2.0 out of beta as well. Oh goodie. I foresee lots of updating and testing in my near future. :P
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 11:35 pm

Im on HD5770 1Gb, either 12.1 PREVIEW or 12.3 works quite good and 12.4 is the worst... 12.2 gives strange white artifacts all over the place with AA/AF enabled but performance is quite fast... still not a nice tradeoff.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:50 am

Made a quick test and for me (XFire HD 6950) the 12.4 gives lower fps than 12.3. With 12.3 I have a constant 60 fps but with 12.4 it drops to 40-50 fps everytime I turn. That's quite annoying and going back to 12.3.
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:50 am

Made a quick test and for me (XFire HD 6950) the 12.4 gives lower fps than 12.3. With 12.3 I have a constant 60 fps but with 12.4 it drops to 40-50 fps everytime I turn. That's quite annoying and going back to 12.3.

From nosing around in some other forums (anandtech, guru3D, etc.) where the overclockers and whatnot usually hang out...seems like this may be a common issue with this driver. Several people reporting minor to massive FPS drops with Skyrim and 12.4. Are you (and/or EtaYorius) using any CCC-forced settings, or are they all set to "application"/let the application decide? Someone mentioned that that fixed their massive Skyrim FPS drops.

I'm getting tempted to stick with 12.3 for now. If it ain't broke... :P
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Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:13 am

From nosing around in some other forums (anandtech, guru3D, etc.) where the overclockers and whatnot usually hang out...seems like this may be a common issue with this driver. Several people reporting minor to massive FPS drops with Skyrim and 12.4. Are you (and/or EtaYorius) using any CCC-forced settings, or are they all set to "application"/let the application decide? Someone mentioned that that fixed their massive Skyrim FPS drops.

I'm getting tempted to stick with 12.3 for now. If it ain't broke... :tongue:

I have in ccc both AA and AF set to "use application settings" and in Skyrim's ini-file the settings are AA off and AF 16. I tested with 4x and 8x AA but it started to remind a slide show. I have now the older 12.3 driver installed with the exactly same settings and no problems.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 10:52 pm

12.2 gives strange white artifacts all over the place with AA/AF enabled but performance is quite fast... still not a nice tradeoff.

Did you try it with only Max AF+FXAA and MSAA disabled?
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