^Observe^

True.

The bloody compass...... that radar which holds you by the hand so you do not miss ANY POI even if you have not actually seen it or found it yourself.....

I have played/beaten ES 3-5 and invested hundreds of hours into them so if I am a casual gamer than Morrowind must be a casual game

Oh, right...

Because the barren icy tundra to the north, and the hot springs to south don't have names for them.

So they're totally redundant and all content held within is rendered pointless and rushed because somehow 'casual' gamers and console gamers got together and slept with your daughter while you were out working the farm in TES Daggerfall/Morrowind.

/cry

Below: What this guy said in another thread (ironically obviously)

Fancy graphics ftw

Point about casuals or people who don't care about actual rpg elements in an rpg game proven yet?

heard about sarcasm?

Owned.

You have anger issues don't you?

Yea and i understood it as well. (Unlike you?)

Yes, this forum doesn't have common sense.

No wonder everybody here hates the mainstream

I don't so much mind the density, but sometimes I can't help but question the logic behind putting certain locations so close together. Like, for instance, having bandit forts a stone's throw away from major holds. There's one by Falkreath that you can see from the bloody gate! I know the guards in this game are ludicrously unqualified, but wouldn't they have at least dealt with these outlaws camped right outside their town? I don't see how they could just ignore that blatant threat. Or how Dawnstar's populace is oblivious to the fact that there's an evil-looking blood-stained door parked meters away from their homes. It'd be alright if the NPCs in both cases at least acknowledged this - "Those bandits right outside the hold are making me nervous," or "I wonder where that creepy door leads? Nevermind, I don't want to know," - but they don't.

Oblivion had this issue as well, you can't walk ten feet without bumping into an ancient ruin filled with magical artifacts. Its just the nature of these games and nothing worth complaining about.

Oh what pure bloody nonsense- 'casuals making pretty graphics mean more than X Y or Z'

If I'm not looking at a thread about how Skyrim is dumbed down, I'm looking at one in which the graphics are bashed. Stop this madness. It's well established that the graphics in Skyrim are not cutting edge, so it escapes me how its possible for so many people to rationalize the 'pretty graphics made things worse becsaue of this or that'.

I don't mind legit complaints- broken quests, phsyics glitches, bad UI for PC, etc, but this other stuff is bunk

The same logic you're using makes me wonder what your control issues are

so I like graphics therefore I dont care about any actual content?

Then leave. No one is putting a gun to your head and making you turn on your computer, logging on to this forum and making you read the threads.

I love that kind of world, i'll never get bored.

This thread is just people insulting each other now, pointless. The original point was moot, now its just a petty argument, everyone has a massive ego on a games forum.

None said that graphics undermine other aspects. But if the audience Skyrim has recently accumulated values them more than actual rpg elements what do you think will happen? TES will gravitate towards the things that will please them. Companies adapt to their customers.


Didn't say that, i don't know you well enough but from what you said you just seem to consider them more important.

Please read the whole thread. There's even quotes about it on this very page

What people mean though is that the game gravitated towards good graphics/world design and did not pay enough attention to actual rpg elements. It's not like people dislike good graphics. It's just that they should be secondary.

There are two things I would like to see added or "fixed" with this game.

1) a patch, dlc or giant mod that somehow fixes the depth to the world. (gives it depth, economy, completing quests having impact on the world, etc)
2 a patch, dlc or giant mod that makes the Skyrim bigger. Like scales things up, a lot. Lets say, ten times. That would give you more wilderness and farmland between crypts, dragon nests, and other locations.

Thats the point. Just knowing that there is that much content and the vast majority of it is unique makes me appreciate this game so much more.

Yes. Skyrim as much content, but as far as locations in the gameworld, they are too packed. Too dense. I do not want lesser locations, I just wanted more wilderness to make space in between.

When I walk by foot in Skyrim, I dont really feel like im traveling. I dont really feel "lost" or away from civiizations. Forrests are too small and the gameworld should have been bigger.

if I considered graphics more important than gameplay or content I would not be playing an ES game