Exactly.

If I catch two scorpions, put them in a jar & shake it to watch them fight, am I really that "evil?"

I think most people would say no. But if you asked most scorpions on the other hand...


It's all about perspective.

This, unfortunately. We don't even have a fame or infamy system anymore, so there are very few overreaching consequences or even references to your actions beyond what happens during the quest itself. Would've been nice to have kept fame and infamy but kept it regional.

For doing jobs for the Daedra Princes? Why? Daedra are not denizens of hell, and the Thalmor are not the Spanish Inquisition.
The Daedra Princes are more like ancient europe's meddlesome gods.

The Thalmor are zealots of a religion that essentially sees Elves as peers to the lesser Aedra (Magnus, Phynaster etc.) and thus direct subjects (not worshippers) of the eight divines (Aedra - Ancestor-Spirits). The Dunmer (then Chimer) seceded from that culture and (in their search for a higher power to guide their life) turned to the Daedra (non-ancestors) that still actually have godlike-power. Then of course they betrayed the Daedra and started to worship a trio of elves that achieved godhood via technomancy.

From a Thalmor's point of view, worship of Daedra is just a weird quirk for elves, akin to worshipping your grumpy old great uncle. For lesser races it is proper behavior of course. (if they'd just finally start to worship elves as well....)

Magnus is a lesser Aedra? Since when?

That makes you a psychopath. And evil.

Well if you want consequences for your conversation choices do "The Break out Dawn", started st Meridia's altar, and tell Meridia off. You'll get a consequence alright lol.

Tho I do generally agree with you.

I don't know, why should the Daedra care? One mortal ant's the same as any other; for every one who doesn't there's got to be ten who are only too willing to help the capricious temperamental divine being telling them to get to the job.

the only consequence is that when you die your soul will become the plaything for several deadra and you will probale end up with your soul forever being faught over and tormented forever.

Everything is foretold by the Elder Scrolls. That's why people actions don't bear consequences that are not intended or already planned

Really. No worse than bullfighting or foxhunting IMO.
Things like dogfighting or bearbaiting would fit in well in Skyrim. That wouldn't make Nords evil any more than our own ancestors were evil.

It'll be neat maybe , in a DLC, that we can go against all the gods, and follow our own path . But still capable of doing quests for them albeit their dialogue will change when they interact with us. It'll be interesting to see the Dragonborn flex his powers on the gods hehe

Hmmm Dragons vs Deadra

The Vigilant of Stendaar become your best friends in the whole game...

Haha, fair enough.

Maybe I'll go with a more accepted hobby for the anology... fishing is fun to a lot of people and a generally accepted form of entertainment... but I bet if you polled the worms on the hooks, they'd tell you otherwise...

There are no consequences to anything. Welcome to the new and improved RPG!

Well, some of these Stendarr guards have attacked me recently. I was in the middle of the woods. My character has all of the Daedic artifacts.
I don't know why they attacked me. Maybe because of my Riften bounty.

Granted, Magnus withdrew from creating the world in the last moments and retained a much larger fraction of his original power than the eight divines, but he was involved in creating the world, thus is an Aedra, and he didn't have much power to begin with, thus he's a lesser one. Most lesser Aedra ceased to exist at all (or actually turned into elves when you believe the Thalmor) This is what the ancient Aldmer believed anyway.

Despite what the Daedra may say about the soul belonging to them, the player is Dhovakin, in a way a sort of Grandson of Akatosh, an Aedra.
Who knows, maybe the grandaddy has some other plan in store for the nephew

See? Best friends already.