Bethesda is due for its Sgt Pepper's moment

Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:29 am

Don't bother man, that guy is a known troll tr0l, going around just flaming people who say anything not-positive about the game, you can see it in his post content too :smile:

Rubbish. I have had plenty to say negative about the game. The constant negativity from blow ins that stinks up these forums should be challenged.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:20 am

Some of them make so many posts there's no way they can be playing the game, and I am sure are just here solely to troll. For people like you and Erandur above you, well, it will never happen for you.
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It will and already has happened, its called mods. Console commands already brought back acrobatics, and the speed attribute.





Don't bother man, that guy is a known troll tr0l, going around just flaming people who say anything not-positive about the game, you can see it in his post content too :smile:
At first I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now, yeah. You should have seen this post rant he quoted me a few weeks ago, I'll have to find it, it was hilarious.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:29 am

I've heard this question asked before, over on the Escapist for one (on Extra Credits I think), when will we see the Citizen Kane of gaming? Skyrim's huge success is a step in the right direction, but it still seems limited to the gaming community (just a broader audience than expected.) DXHR (Eidos) is another contender, in that they managed to offer a compelling, rich game that could even be played without killing anyone (well, almost, stupid bossfights...) The fact that almost all games to date need to center around mortal combat to be entertaining is in my opinion the major thing preventing them from being accepted on the same level as film. I also wouldn't rule out Bioware, even in the disappointment that was Dragon Age 2, they've shown excellent dialog and storytelling - I think the quality of the writing is going to be the aspect that eventually tips the scales.

If that is so looks like TES is in for a bad fall.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:27 pm

Rubbish. I have had plenty to say negative about the game. The constant negativity from blow ins that stinks up these forums should be challenged.

So it's OK for you to say something negative, but if someone else says something negative that you disagree with, then it's your place, nay, your right to "challenge" them? So you're basically a self righteous, self appointed Gestapo. Not sure who you think you are, but you aren't.

The most angry and negative posts in this topic so far have been from...you. I'm not familiar with the layout of your house, but surely, somewhere you have a mirror.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:37 am

really, go to basically any guns or multi-player threads no one will even consider it half of the comments are just no
There's logical reasons for no guns (as in muskets, or firearms) or Multi, here isn't really the place, but I could name them (and that is taking into account Redguard Naval Guns in Redguard, and Breton cannon scows mentioned vaguely in The Infernal City) but your right that they get shot down very quickly.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:45 pm

There's logical reasons for no guns (as in muskets, or firearms) or Multi, here isn't really the place, but I could name them (and that is taking into account Redguard Naval Guns in Redguard, and Breton cannon scows mentioned vaguely in The Infernal City) but your right that they get shot down very quickly.
Didn't they do Multi in Battlespire?
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:51 pm

Didn't they do Multi in Battlespire?
Battlespire is like Die Hard 2. I'm not sure it even happened. Also I'm talking about an actual ES, as in a series entry.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:30 am

I believe they did in one of the TES offshoots I think it was Battlespire.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:04 am

So it's OK for you to say something negative, but if someone else says something negative that you disagree with, then it's your place, nay, your right to "challenge" them?

There's a large difference between constructive criticism (or indeed even plain criticism) and petty sniping. Some people need to learn that difference.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:37 am

Battlespire is like Die Hard 2. I'm not sure it even happened.
Or like FOBoS
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:43 am

Or like FOBoS
Ha, yeah.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:30 pm

You dare mention the burned game? XD
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:11 am

I dunno, I just don't see Bethesda that way.

They are great at making these sprawling, expansive worlds..but in many other ways some of their design choices for things like quests are very conservative and were also for Morrowind and Oblivion. I feel that some of the complaints levelled against Skyrim have existed in both of those games as well.

I honestly think that there are smaller companies like Piranha Bytes that excel as the stuff that Bethesda for whatever reason seems to do really poorly - world that reacts to your actions, twisting, branching plotlines.

I think it's probably a safe bet that while you will always be wowed by Bethesda games, they will always be pretty conservative with how the put together quests, and many elements such as questing and general difficulty. I don't know why..but it seems to be a pattern.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:33 am

You dare mention the burned game? XD
Yes for I am a blasphamer! (spelling?)
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:37 am

You dare mention the burned game? XD
Atleast nobody brought up Zelda CDi, oh wait.

Seriously though, how did the world not end after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mHw5g55oC4&feature=player_embedded#at=47 was released?
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:47 am

This is the lighter side of general discussion. No complaining about spears, or attributes, or werewolves, or MAH EMMERSHION!!!!! :cool:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:18 am

I personally have to agree they keep taking steps in both directions. Why I don't honestly know, But I still have hope that they'll drag the foot they left behind in morrowind, the arm they lost in oblivion and whatever they will think to leave behind in Skyrim and put all of it in the next game. Better Be Blackmarsh btw.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:07 am

I personally have to agree they keep taking steps in both directions. Why I don't honestly know, But I still have hope that they'll drag the foot they left behind in morrowind, the arm they lost in oblivion and whatever they will think to leave behind in Skyrim and put all of it in the next game. Better Be Blackmarsh btw.
Black Marsh is just a disease-riddled swamp. :meh:

Let's go to Hammerfell, Summerset Isle, Valenwood, or Elsweyr, I say!
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:17 am

Skyrim is out now, it's selling, it has fans, it is game of the year.

There is no other studio I love like Bethesda. I am a critic of Skyrim, I am disapointed in what is missing, but that does not mean others are not happy. It's cliched, but a family does not always agree.

The field of video games is new- despite a few decades since the Atari 5200. And the games get better.

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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:34 am

Of the pre Psychedelic Beatles, Revolver down, I would pick Revolver, but I think that side one of Rubber Soul is better than any one side of Revolver, Revolver just has both sides.

But enough about that, Morrowind was their pinnacle.

I think The Beatles were well into their psychedelics by the time they finished recording Revolver. That's what Tomorrow Never Knows tells me, anyway. :wink: Not to mention previous songs like Day Tripper.

70% filler...Wha? Piggies, Everybodys Got Something to hide..., Savoy Truffles, and Rev 9 (arguably), were the only filler songs.

Edit: Wild Honey Pie was filler as well.

Everybody's Got Something to Hide is an awesome song!


Couldn't help getting involved with the Beatles discussion there. Anyway, I honestly don't think Bethesda can or will bring us the "Citizen Kane" of gaming - or Sgt. Pepper's if you will, but to me that album didn't revolutionise much, it only cemented and brought the emergent psychedelic rock scene to the mainstream. By that notion, Bethesda have already had their Sgt. Pepper's in my eyes, whether it be in Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim, as each has contributed in part to bringing sprawling first-person RPG's into wider recognition. The "Citizen Kane" of gaming would present a whole new style of gaming; this could arguably be found in a multitude of indie games, whether you're talking about downloadable games for consoles like Flower or obscure games created by small developers for the PC. There are tonnes of games out there which innovate and don't revolve around "mortal combat", you just have to look.

I do honestly believe someone in the next thirty years will innovate gaming so that it becomes a valuable art form. It would no longer be "gaming" of course, but instead a multisensory interactive experience. Currently, visual art has much more room for freedom than gaming. Orson Welles was in the position where he could use light and cameras however he wished. No matter how hard indie developers try - especially for consoles - they're still limited to the medium of a couple of buttons or keys in order to make their game an experience which would not be better translated as a film. Now, of course a game developer could create an innovative game of the same caliber as the masterpieces of mainstream cinema - they can still manipulate the player visually, audially, and even tactilely to some extent if you consider Dualshock and suchlike - but why should they? Films are far more accurate in achieving their impact on the spectator because everything is presented how the director chooses. You couldn't put a gamer in the position of Orson Welles in Citizen Kane because then they could just run around [censored] [censored] up, which ruins the immersion entirely.

When we start standing in immersion tanks that manipulate us visually, audially, olfactorily and tactilely, covered head to toe in various nodes, then things will be different, whether it be interactive, like a game, or not, like a film. I'd hope there'd be less "mortal combat" for one, otherwise we'd be world of very sick puppies. Gaming would certainly change then, but I doubt the original form of gaming - manipulating a screen with a controller with a few buttons on it - would ever die out, it'd only expand: bigger screens, louder guns, more ostentation! Artistic gaming wouldn't be addictive. It wouldn't be as fun. A human becomes addicted to the rewards of habitually pressing buttons on a keypad. Call me a philistine, but I've rewatched dumb films that make me laugh like Wayne's Would a great many more times than I've watched films which innovate and could honestly alter a society's collective consciousness. Laughter is much more addictive than brooding over society's ills. So is shooting the head off of a rancid zombie with an RPG.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:06 pm

I personally feel Skyrim is Bethesda's " Sgt Pepper moment". While the game isn't perfect, its still the greatest game i ever played, and its crossed genre's recruting lots of new people to these types of games. I think its success will effect rpgs, and gaming in general for years to come. Bioware has already admitted to taking notes on its success, and i think they are far from the only developer who is.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:51 am

What exactly is being searched for in this topic? A game that ... ???
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:06 am

Curse you, Old Grog; I just said in a reply to a different post that it was probably the only reply that I would make-and then I see this post of yours!

I know that your a bit older than I am because of the senior citizen thread (although I was born almost 44 years ago, the fact that I was born on February 29th means I'm still only an 11 year old snot nosed punk), but that does not excuse your use of a phrase like 'Sgt. Peppers moment'!

...the correct phrase is 'a Never Mind the Bullocks moment'.

I apologize if I've been pedantic, but it's as easy to get these things right as it is to get them wrong; I bid you good night, sir.

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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:43 am

Curse you, Old Grog; I just said in a reply to a different post that it was probably the only reply that I would make-and then I see this post of yours!

I know that your a bit older than I am because of the senior citizen thread (although I was born almost 44 years ago, the fact that I was born on February 29th means I'm still only an 11 year old snot nosed punk), but that does not excuse your use of a phrase like 'Sgt. Peppers moment'!

...the correct phrase is 'a Never Mind the Bullocks moment'.

I apologize if I've been pedantic, but it's as easy to get these things right as it is to get them wrong; I bid you good night, sir.

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That's not what makes you a snot-nosed punk. It's not realizing that it's actually the "London Calling" moment that does it
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:14 am

Neat Neat Neat

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