I have to agree with the folks who said the complexion slider can make you look older, but even with it all the way to left, you've got to do some serious face sculpting to make a character look like they are in their 20's.

I just dont know why they gimped the creation system too much. Too complicated for most people? Why not just have a "basic" character creation mode that looks like it does now, and an advanced one with the options from oblivion. Eother way we should have gotten a real age slider.

Can you link a picture to him? How did you manage that? He's got no wrinkles? Sometimes they're more noticeable in certain lights

Edit: Either way we should have a real age slider like in Oblivion so we can control these things better than just using a complexion slider. All the slider does is give you the option of "some wrinkles, some wrinkles with a red rash on your face, more wrinkles, marks on your face and more wrinkles, and more wrinkles"

I only have bad camera phone pictures because I have the game on X-Box 360. I just set the complexion slider all the way to the left.

Having some forehead wrinkles isn't a sign of old age. People of any age can have them. Especially in a hostile, rugged environment like Skyrim.

+1 to OP.

I like to know the age of my character also.

Complexion =/= age lines.
Also, I would support a thread that asks for the six slider to be turned into a text selection option.
six should not be a slider. I don't care what surgery you've had, your gender is whatever you want it to be, but your six is anatomical and is either male or female.

Also also, the demographic for players might be 17-25 but the characters have to be older than that. This is fantasy universe set in a medieval-esque time period (with magic and elves, so think D&D). People didn't really become good at things until mid-twenties or later and those are just simple things like how to swing a sword properly. Mages probably had to spend a few more years studying magic before being able to cast spells without blowing themselves up so add 5-10 years on top of the base age range of 25-30. Not to mention this is just for human characters who have a "human" lifespan. Elves have longer lifespans in TES, correct? Then they should age and mature differently. We consider our kind to be advlts around the age of 17 in most cultures. Elves might not consider their kind advlts until their much much older, like around 50 or something. So an Imperial/Breton/Redguard/Nord warrior might be only 20-25 whereas a Dunmer/Altmer/Bosmer warrior might be something like 40. Add 10+ years for mages, depending on race. You might be able to take the lowest possible age in that base range of 20-25/40-50 or even subtract a few years for stealth classes since they tend to be tricky little pranksters who learn their craft living on the streets or whatever as a part of life whereas no one forced their kid to learn magic or swing a sword (I hope). I don't even know what to do for Orcs, Khajit, and Argonians. I can't imagine Argonians live for very long seeing as how most everything in their native homeland wants to kill them and everything outside of Black Marsh wants to enslave them. Not the best living conditions, and in the first place they are the "beast" races so they probably only live long enough to breed and are then no longer biologically useful to their race and so die a natural death at the ripe old age of...40?

Just saying...you can't roleplay a 17 year old master of the mages college. It makes no blasted sense.
And no, "A wizard did it!" doesn't apply here.
However, vampirism does. Just ask Babette.

Somehow it takes part of immersion when you RP as young dunmer but you have wringles like 80 yrs human .

I lol at time in this game because overnight you can solve a murder mystery that's had the Windhelm guards stumped for years and you can combination power-train and power-level a skill to 100 in a matter of days.

General Tullius: But how?! I was about to have you executed only a few days ago and back then you were nothing more than a border hopper! The horse thief was more dangerous than you!
Dovahkiin: META-GAME

And a freaking random button.

True story of my own stupidity : first time I saw Savos, I thought he was wearing glasses for a split second there. That is some set of bags.
Arch-mage being young wrong? What about looking young? Mages living longer was accepted enough for no-one to suspect Hassildor was a vampire, why can't a mage, perhaps particularly one whose main stock in trade is restoration, look younger than their years?

The wrinkles could be explained as results of a very stressful life. Tons of stress can make someone look older.

A Height/Hair length slider would be nice too. Getting sick of my favorite races all being so short =( There has to be some variety!

Mass stupidity =/= canonically correct.

And a bust slider for all our female characters, because they are LEGION.

On a serious note, height also affects movement speed so it'd more or less break the system if they let you choose your character's height...not to mention everyone would be tall as hell in order to run faster.

i don't think there will ever be a height slider but oblivion had a hair length slider and an age slider...why did they take it out?

I think a legion bust size would be... in Lee from Tekken's words, "EXCELLENT WHILE WRESTLING BEARS!"

You can add Divayth Fyr being 4000 to that.

The age slider clearly was too kind to him.

100% agreed - it would be a very good addition to character generation.

i forgot about this. But yeah i miss the age slider from Oblivion.

The age slider on the PS3 version of Oblivion hardly did anything in my case. Same with just about every other part of the character creation. It was impossible to do anything with such terrible lighting. The lighting made the official first level of Demon's Souls look well lit. Most of Oblivion was way too dark on the default brightness setting for me.

Had the game not have that awful lighting during chargen, I would have been able to see things better during it.

the ones saying complexion = age slider are way off ... I have probably tried over 100 times (no exaggeration) to make a male pc that looks in his twenties. I am currently playing as a female Breton, I'd at least like the option to not play as an old man.

edit: and that seems like it might be somewhat offensive, why are there do many young large briasted women and all the men are old and grizzly.

In previous games, there was an Age Slider. My characters were always young, so it was to the left side.

Being middle aged myself, I know the folly of thinking I could get off my couch, put on a hundred pounds of equipment and go traipsing across the land in search of adventure. This was something I would do in my 20's when I did not know better, so the same for my characters.

However, the more things one can do to customize their character, the better. I liked Oblivion's Face Gen, even though there were almost too many choices.

agreed ... it would be nice to just have the option to make them younger. I felt like I could tweak just about anything with facegen.

I generally only have this issue with males, though the Mer are also difficult to make it look like someone in their mid-twenties. Every guy I make looks 40+ no matter how I move the sliders.

Oddly enough I mentioned this before the game came out when we got the pic of the pre-sets. Everyone assumed that the preset could be changed with some kind of age slider so it didn't seem like a big deal at the time.