Bethesda: Please make an Age Slider

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:46 pm

I generally only have this issue with males, though the Mer are also difficult to make it look like someone in their mid-twenties. Every guy I make looks 40+ no matter how I move the sliders.

Oddly enough I mentioned this before the game came out when we got the pic of the pre-sets. Everyone assumed that the preset could be changed with some kind of age slider so it didn't seem like a big deal at the time.

I have no trouble making a youngish female pc, but even they are 25+
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:50 am

Yes please. More customization is always good.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:04 pm

I have no trouble making a youngish female pc, but even they are 25+

Probably the best I did was this young Breton (no mods): http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/imageshare/images/649591-1325687655.jpg

But the men are just old no matter what you do. This one required a smoother skin mod: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/imageshare/images/649591-1327675311.jpg
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:27 pm

Probably the best I did was this young Breton (no mods): http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/imageshare/images/649591-1325687655.jpg

But the men are just old no matter what you do. This one required a smoother skin mod: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/imageshare/images/649591-1327675311.jpg

I must have her face.....
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:42 pm

I don't know about humans and elves but you sure as hell can't change the age of beast races. Argonians have two options on the slider and that's it. The young version is presented by the scales on the face and neck being dark and shiny while the old one has white-ish, washed out scales that do not match the rest of the body texture at all. So you're pretty much forced to go with the first option anyway.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:14 pm

Its REALLY easy to make an old/young looking person. Its not very notacable if youre not in HD

One of the complection options, gaunt cheeks, grey hair = convincing oldie
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:03 am

Its REALLY easy to make an old/young looking person. Its not very notacable if youre not in HD

One of the complection options, gaunt cheeks, grey hair = convincing oldie

I have a 2k$ HDTV I've yet to see a young male pc
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:58 am

I agree, OP! The Bretons especially suffer from the wrinkle problem.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:32 am

I agree, OP! The Bretons especially suffer from the wrinkle problem.

tragically, that is my favorite race. I've tried making a nord and imperial male neither of those looked under 40 either
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:51 am

Yes we need an age slider, I would like to choose the age for my character not be stuck at 40+
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:53 pm

Best Female I've made:

http://m1262.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/Kizu6/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0588.jpg.html?o=0

Best Male I've been able to make:

http://m1262.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/Kizu6/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_8675.jpg.html?o=1

it's frustrating bc the female looks 15-20 years younger than any male I can produce
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:36 pm

Complexion =/= age lines.
Also, I would support a thread that asks for the six slider to be turned into a text selection option.
six should not be a slider. I don't care what surgery you've had, your gender is whatever you want it to be, but your six is anatomical and is either male or female.

Also also, the demographic for players might be 17-25 but the characters have to be older than that. This is fantasy universe set in a medieval-esque time period (with magic and elves, so think D&D). People didn't really become good at things until mid-twenties or later and those are just simple things like how to swing a sword properly. Mages probably had to spend a few more years studying magic before being able to cast spells without blowing themselves up so add 5-10 years on top of the base age range of 25-30. Not to mention this is just for human characters who have a "human" lifespan. Elves have longer lifespans in TES, correct? Then they should age and mature differently. We consider our kind to be advlts around the age of 17 in most cultures. Elves might not consider their kind advlts until their much much older, like around 50 or something. So an Imperial/Breton/Redguard/Nord warrior might be only 20-25 whereas a Dunmer/Altmer/Bosmer warrior might be something like 40. Add 10+ years for mages, depending on race. You might be able to take the lowest possible age in that base range of 20-25/40-50 or even subtract a few years for stealth classes since they tend to be tricky little pranksters who learn their craft living on the streets or whatever as a part of life whereas no one forced their kid to learn magic or swing a sword (I hope). I don't even know what to do for Orcs, Khajit, and Argonians. I can't imagine Argonians live for very long seeing as how most everything in their native homeland wants to kill them and everything outside of Black Marsh wants to enslave them. Not the best living conditions, and in the first place they are the "beast" races so they probably only live long enough to breed and are then no longer biologically useful to their race and so die a natural death at the ripe old age of...40?

Just saying...you can't roleplay a 17 year old master of the mages college. It makes no blasted sense.
And no, "A wizard did it!" doesn't apply here.
However, vampirism does. Just ask Babette.

I see your reasoning here, but Nirn is not DnD, and it's not even a medieval setting when you get right down to it. Also, the fact that there have been young looking npcs and player characters in previous games suggests that younger people do in fact do adventurous things. It wasn't until Skyrim that character models looked this old, particularly male ones, which is another nonsensical issue. Looking at the game files of oblivion, there were actual ages that went along with the age slider. The youngest you could make your character look according to the files was "15" and the oldest was "65". Elves, particularly dunmer, continue to look like young advlts well into their 50's and are treated as young advlts well before that. This is particularly evidenced through the books on Barenziah when other elves are being described from her perspective, as well as "interviews" with dark elves. High elves live exponentially longer, and many use magic to maintain their youth. The altmer who led the anvil mages guild was well over 100 years old remember? She defeated Lorgran Benirus a century ago, yet she looks younger than every male in Skyrim. Long story short, elves look young for a long time, so they should be able to look young in game.

So to sum things up: there have always been young adventurers on nirn and players should have the CHOICE of being one of them.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:32 am



I see your reasoning here, but Nirn is not DnD, and it's not even a medieval setting when you get right down to it. Also, the fact that there have been young looking npcs and player characters in previous games suggests that younger people do in fact do adventurous things. It wasn't until Skyrim that character models looked this old, particularly male ones, which is another nonsensical issue. Looking at the game files of oblivion, there were actual ages that went along with the age slider. The youngest you could make your character look according to the files was "15" and the oldest was "65". Elves, particularly dunmer, continue to look like young advlts well into their 50's and are treated as young advlts well before that. This is particularly evidenced through the books on Barenziah when other elves are being described from her perspective, as well as "interviews" with dark elves. High elves live exponentially longer, and many use magic to maintain their youth. The altmer who led the anvil mages guild was well over 100 years old remember? She defeated Lorgran Benirus a century ago, yet she looks younger than every male in Skyrim. Long story short, elves look young for a long time, so they should be able to look young in game.

So to sum things up: there have always been young adventurers on nirn and players should have the CHOICE of being one of them.

agreed ... choice is what is needed especially with something that can allow a much larger variety of rp pc's.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:34 pm

Hell yes. All my mages will be old
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:44 am

And all mine would be young. I personally dont like the old mage stereotype. I like how in TES lore, the greatest sorcerers look young because the magic keeps them youthful. I love making characters that look innocent and are easily underestimated, only to have them destroy an entire bandit clan.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:11 pm

And all mine would be young. I personally dont like the old mage stereotype. I like how in TES lore, the greatest sorcerers look young because the magic keeps them youthful. I love making characters that look innocent and are easily underestimated, only to have them destroy an entire bandit clan.

Exactly, who wants to play as an old man in each play through (and at all, for that matter)
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:27 pm

Yeah. It makes sense lore-wise to play as a young person, and the complexion slider just adds wrinkles, it doesn't actually change your age or make you look younger. We need an actual age slider....
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:55 pm

There is. It's the complexion slider. To the left you are around 20 to the right you are around 50.

Unfortunately, i cranked that to the leftmost (youngest) for all races, and almost all of them still possess glaringly obvious wrinkles <_<
In the end i was lucky someone used the child's face texture and modded it into the character creation screen; only then was i able to make 20+ looking characters.

Before that all of them looked 40+ what with their wrinkles all over the place. I was kinda pissed about that considering i could have a massive age difference in oblivion. Seems like bethesda wants everyone to have a old grumpy dovahkiin.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:59 pm

Complexion slider=\= age slider. It just adds features to your face, some of which include wrinkles. It cant make you look younger.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:11 am



Unfortunately, i cranked that to the leftmost (youngest) for all races, and almost all of them still possess glaringly obvious wrinkles <_<
In the end i was lucky someone used the child's face texture and modded it into the character creation screen; only then was i able to make 20+ looking characters.

Before that all of them looked 40+ what with their wrinkles all over the place. I was kinda pissed about that considering i could have a massive age difference in oblivion. Seems like bethesda wants everyone to have a old grumpy dovahkiin.

exactly, and if it can be modded it can be added.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:12 pm

I would love to have an age slider.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:36 pm

And a bust slider for all our female characters, because they are LEGION.

On a serious note, height also affects movement speed so it'd more or less break the system if they let you choose your character's height...not to mention everyone would be tall as hell in order to run faster.

I'm 6'8 in the real world. I can not stand playing a Character where just about everyone is taller than I am. It would be simple adding in a maximum height equal to that of an Altmer, and a minimum to that of a Bosmer.

Also, only the Min/Maxers would bother with always going for the tallest setting. Playing an Altmer doesn't break the system now does it?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:01 pm

Both an age and height slider are needed.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:37 am

Both an age and height slider are needed.

if I had to choose, I'd want the age slider. However height is an important aspect too. I will say I've seen an age slider before (oblivion/fonv) but never a height one.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:36 pm

So apperently in Dawnguard we'll be able to change aspects of our character's looks.Hopefully this means we can remove our wrinkles.
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