I understand, and that's your right. If you don't like a game for its content, you don't have to play it. I'm just stating that just because it has mature content it doesn't mean it takes away from how good of a game it is. As long as the mature content is approached tastefully, its fine.

Mature content is far from "weighing down first person shooters." Heck, the pioneers of FPS's (Wolfenstein and Doom) had mature content. My only gripe with OP's stance is that it seems like he's against just about any mature content in a video game.

Oh, no. I am not AGAINST mature content or that mature content "ruins" games or anything.

I think mature content is fine, like you said, as long as it is done tastefully.

And, like you said, if I do not like the content, then I have a right as a paying customer to not buy it, simple as that. ^_^

I'm just a bit disgruntled that many "good"-rated games are the ones with content I don't like, lol.
I end up trying to look for games that have a similar gameplay or just end up trying to search for another type of game that has content I can deal with, lol.
(Which is usually is on the Wii and PC and sometimes PS1/2/3).

I'm glad we can agree on that then. :thumbsup:

I for one laugh at the thought that COD is "Realistic", nothing realistic with "laser" weapons, people living through 15 bullets and still running like it is nothing. Like others have said in other topics, Brink is making this game unrealistic so they don't have that type of limitation on the game play.

As far as RPGs go, you're missing out if you don't try the original Fallout, and it has censor options for gore and language. 2 and Tactics had similar features as well. I can't remember if there were censor options for 3 or not.

I don't believe there are any filters for mature content in Fallout 3.

Oh, so Fallout 1/2 have censors? I didn't realize that.

Must be Fallout 3 I am thinking about. I remember seeing some kind of Fallout gameplay (some are by devs) videos
and I all remember was a lot of people love to do the shooooooting....pow....slow.....motion....ex...plod....ing....heads...for....every....single....enemy...., lol. (Unless they exaggerated it?)

I was disappointed with Fallout 3, but in a way I was happy to be back in the franchise. The gunplay is certainly clunky, but overall I found some enjoyment within it. Not to mention the perk Bloody Mess makes death an over the top splendor. When you don't have Bloody Mess then the only thing that can be gory is limbs being severed and even that happens every other kill.

Haha you said what the crap. and I dont think everyone's on your side they just dont care. Also real soldiers swear all they time.

Yep, as does Fallout Tactics, all of which were before the jump to new developers and the FPS world. They apparently rereleased all three in a box for $20 or something (I just saw it at target yesterday).

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after reading your opening topic im a bit confused to what answers you are searching for. I work at Gamestop and must abide by the ESRB regulations but the fact is the ESRB regs are total horse [censored] to say the least. the reason games that are first person shooters are rated the way they are is not based solely on the words the characters say or the blood and gore, but the fact that uneducated morons blame adolescent violence on video games when the true fact is violence in people under the age of 18 is at a 30 year low. which means that since true violent video games emerged violence has decreased, the fact is if a kid goes to a school and kills people and says he wanted to see what it was like because he saw it in a video game there is something much much more wrong with this kid and it would have happened eventually anyway. video games do not cause people to do violent things FACT and there is ZERO evidence stating otherwise. the ESRB is to busy svcking the [censored] of these conservative parents they dont rate games in a fair manor. if anything these parents that keep their kids from violent video games have more problems than the parents that allow it. what do they do keep their kids in a bubble? do they not allow them to watch the news? the ESRB is about as good at rating games on the graphic material as IGN is at rating on gameplay cuz lets face it in IGNs eyes if its not CoD its not a good game.

so please clear up what your trying to state. are you telling me you think that the teen rating is good just because YOU dont like heavy violence?

This.
People (and kids) were violent a long, long time before video games started showing blood and gore

and another fact most of the kids that commit violent acts either come from violent homes where they are abused. or extremely conservative homes where they are protected all their lives from violent games and tv until they go into the real world and cant handle it so they snap.

so please clear up what your trying to state. are you telling me you think that the teen rating is good just because YOU dont like heavy violence?
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All I am saying is we should have a choice in the matter of what goes in the games. this is probably going to be the last message I write on this topic as this has angered quite a few close minded argumentative individuals.

I would not call it “ garbage “ but it all depend to what point is done. In some games it adds realism others is trash. I also have to admit that is not needed for a good game play.

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All I am saying is we should have a choice in the matter of what goes in the games. this is probably going to be the last message I write on this topic as this has angered quite a few close minded argumentative individuals.
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wait wait wait... you want a choice in what kinda of violence goes into a game? heres an idea since im such a closed minded individual oh wait (i believe the closed minded ones are the people that want less violence in games because of unbacked arguments that it causes teens to be violent) but anyway how bout instead of wanting less violence you just grow some balls and realize ITS JUST A GAME AND ITS NOT REAL so any graphic violence should mean nothing.

I for one LOVE gore in games, just watching a fountain of blood spurt out of some unlucky soul to mess with me, makes it so worth killing them, love being brutal, like in the God of war series, ripping people apart, cutting them up, and in onecase in GOW3, ripping a god's head off and using it as a flashlight . It's just so satisfying to rip someone apart or beat down someone until their nothing more then a bloody stain on the floor, its just so wunderbar!

Now im not saying i HAVE to have extreme gore in video games, i just perfer it, gore is not something i would complain about having/not having, if its in there then YAY, if not, then whatever, and i do not think gore and such causes people to become violent in any way, unless their mentally unstable, already somewhat violent, or someone teachs them as a child its good to kill people like in the video games, or something messed up like that.

What's with all the crazy ranting and raging?

My favorite content of lines said in game hands down is TF2 "get on the point dumb ass" just never gets old to me. Best sound effects BC2. When you're putting in crude content because you think it's going to help game sells that's just BS. Make it have reason for being in the game the more creative of reason of course the more enjoyable game play that is what we are paying for creative free thinkers. As to ratings yes M games don't cause kids to engage in bad behavior kids stupid thinking creates bad behavior. I like what Brink has done with making these characters look so provocative and at the same time not use language you would think they would creating sense of irony with them. It would have be easy for sd to have these characters using the f bomb every 2 seconds but that would get old and stale real fast. With the way these guys look I hope they have some interesting things included in the verbiage as well.

Honestly, you're coming off as the one as closed minded. We have provided evidence that a game can be good with language/six/violence as long as it isn't over-the-top and that violence in video games doesn't lead to violence in real life. On the other hand, you have provided no concrete evidence in support of your point, and instead you are just restating the same sentence over and over. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they are closed-minded; the fact that you don't accept these other viewpoints as legitimate shows you as unaccepting.

This thread didn't start well and has gone steadily downhill. We've had to deal with several reports, so I am locking it. Your "discussion" style unfortunately was the trigger for the argumentative bent to the thread, and please do not call members close-minded. It's flaming.

However, I would like to add that you want to have a choice in the matter of what goes in the games - then become a game developer.