.50 Caliber Machinegun : Fallout: New Vegas

» Fri May 13, 2011 9:27 am

The Mark19 is a heavy [censored] too but the designers had no problem backpack mounting one with heavy as [censored] 40mm grenades as the ammo supply.

The Grenade Machinegun is a magical weapon. It holds 30 grenades, at .5 weight units a piece, for a total of 15 weight units in ammo only. Guess how much the Grenade Machinegun weighs? Yup. 15 weight units. Maaaaaaagic.
(IRL, a Mk19 with 30 rounds, and mind you no backpack or feed system, would weigh about 90 pounds. The only thing IRL close to the minigun is the XM214 which, with all of the "6-pack" components weighs about 75 pounds. A M2 gun only plus *without* any ammo, tripod or feed system weighs 84 pounds.)

Edit: Whoopsie. Bad math and logic. Mercy only holds 18 40mm for 9 weight units and a regular GMG hold 30 25mm for 7.5 weight units. Plus I though ammo weight was taken off when you loaded the weapon, but it is taken off when fired. So you can sorta ignore most of that nonsense above.

-Gunny out.

» Fri May 13, 2011 11:23 am

You know whats funny. The gun you suggested doesn't even fire .50 caliber rounds.

The LMG is fine enough as a mg. but, a real version of the .50 cal Browning 1919 is always appreciated...`

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:38 pm

how about the kick *** gun on shellshock right here ?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Shellshock-nam-67-20040910025714525_640w.jpg

» Fri May 13, 2011 5:30 pm

how about the kick *** gun on shellshock right here ?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Shellshock-nam-67-20040910025714525_640w.jpg

Looks like an M60 with an ammo backpack.

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:38 pm

The LMG is fine enough as a mg. but, a real version of the .50 cal Browning 1919 is always appreciated...`

Which one? The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning, or the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1919_Browning_machine_gun?

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:22 pm

Which one? The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning, or the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1919_Browning_machine_gun?

Both? It'd be nice, wouldn't it? And a squad to carry the ammo.

-Gunny out.

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:19 pm

The chauchet was a horrible gun, the guys that used it hated it. It had loads of problems and there is a reason it isn't used anymore. No the Ma Duece is still in use, and she will be for a good long time. Also as a little tidbit about the the .50BMG, it is actually named after the Ma Duece "Browning Machine Gun". I thought that was pretty interesting.

A Chauchat in 8x58 Lebel was a OK SAW.....for WW1. The BAR was better, and by WW2 there were far better choices. The .30-06 version of the Chauchat was junk because somebody in either the French or US Ordnance Corps screwed up the re-design.

That is because Browning designed the round at the same time he designed the M2....as a Anti-Tank weapon. The M2 is a light automatic cannon designed to shred 1st Generation Tanks. When Tanks got too well armored to kill with one, the M2 was so effective at killing other things (people, trucks, aircraft, ect.) the Army kept it.

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:48 pm

Both? I'd be nice, wouldn't it? And a squad to carry the ammo.

-Gunny out.

Nah, just two guys...in uprated Power Armor. One with a gun on each arm, and one to pack the ammo and keep him fed. :thumbsup:

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:29 am

I'm gonna have to ask for proof. Because the 25mm M242 Bushmaster I nor the 30mm MK44 Bushmaster II have never been deployed to any AC-130 Gunship variant nor have they ever been deployed to the AC-47.

Current armament for the H (Spectre) are the 40mm Bofors and the 105mm Howitzer.

Current armament for the U (Spooky II) are the same as the H plus the addition of a 25mm General Dynamics GAU-12 chaingun.

Both the M242 and MK44 Bushmaster I and II chainguns are built by Allied Techsystems and neither of the current AC-130 H, U nor any of the past AC-130 gunships (A, J) have ever had any weapons made by Allied Techsystems.

The AC-47 doesn't even count as its armament consisted of 3 each 7.62 GAU-2 and 10 each .30 Browning AN/M2 machine guns. Puff the Magic Dragon (also a "Spooky" designation) is not in the same class and is no longer used.

Add to that the GAU-12/U and the two Bushmaster guns are very different weapons platforms. the GAU is a Gatling gun with 5 barrels whilst both Busmasters are single.

http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/6-41288.aspx ... they def had them on spooky at some point in 2007. then at a later date they apparently took them off, and put the old guns back, due to altitude problems with the bushmaster.

» Fri May 13, 2011 4:19 pm

Nah, just two guys...in uprated Power Armor. One with a gun on each arm, and one to pack the ammo and keep him fed. :thumbsup:

Heh. Ammo packer. Must be the "new" army.

-gunny out.

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:18 pm

Which one? The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Browning, or the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1919_Browning_machine_gun?

M2 Browning .50 caliber, I would like it http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Browning_M2

» Fri May 13, 2011 5:45 pm

Looks like an M60 with an ammo backpack.

it is but they stated it was 50cal so there you go a m60 with a backpack to carry ammo as does every heavy gun like the mini gun
maybe because the minigun doesnt need a backpack and niether does GMG or gattling laser kind of a tradition

» Fri May 13, 2011 12:17 pm

Heh. Ammo packer. Must be the "new" army.

-gunny out.

Shhhh- don't ask, don't tell.

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:55 pm

People doing concept art for Fallout 3 also thought having .50cals as a good thing. Would have been http://www.project610.com/files/concept04c.jpg

Edit: We already have the Ammo for it :shifty:

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:36 pm

That MEC Gauss minigun, now that is a weapon I would love to have.

The M2 would be great to, would make me build a whole new char just for it.

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:40 am

That MEC Gauss minigun, now that is a weapon I would love to have.

THIS. The seriously need to bring that back, I wouldn't use any other weapon lmao.

» Fri May 13, 2011 9:25 am

People doing concept art for Fallout 3 also thought having .50cals as a good thing. Would have been http://www.project610.com/files/concept04c.jpg

Edit: We already have the Ammo for it :shifty:

Yah that looks crazy is there any more of that concept art?

And that pic reminded me of the book of eli.

» Fri May 13, 2011 7:10 pm

Yah that looks crazy is there any more of that concept art?

And that pic reminded me of the book of eli.

Actually, of the two weapons he circled there, the one on the left, after just a quick glance, looks more like an autocannon. Maybe an oerlikon.

Man. That's what we need. Fricken cannons. Now we're talkin'.

-Gunny out.

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:13 am

Actually, of the two weapons he circled there, the one on the left, after just a quick glance, looks more like an autocannon. Maybe an oerlikon.

Man. That's what we need. Fricken cannons. Now we're talkin'.

-Gunny out.

Imagine a Oerkilon.....mounted to the bed of a pickup.

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:54 pm

Imagine a Oerkilon.....mounted to the bed of a pickup.

A post apocaliptic pickup that doesn't move. :celebration:

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:31 pm

then you shouldn't have a mini gun it doesn't have the recoil but I'm sure it would be almost as heavy if not more.

A minigun only weighs about 50-60 pounds, while that Browning weighs about 100.

If we're going to go with the biggest guns we can find...why not use http://www.vincelewis.net/20mm.html?

» Fri May 13, 2011 9:23 am

A minigun only weighs about 50-60 pounds, while that Browning weighs about 100.

If we're going to go with the biggest guns we can find...why not use http://www.vincelewis.net/20mm.html?

that 20mm is crazy.

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:49 am

I could see having a .50 caliber machine gun, but I think it should require a strength of 10.

» Fri May 13, 2011 12:07 pm

Actually, of the two weapons he circled there, the one on the left, after just a quick glance, looks more like an autocannon. Maybe an oerlikon.

Man. That's what we need. Fricken cannons. Now we're talkin'.

-Gunny out.

Lol im thinking overkill perhaps?

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:17 am

A post apocaliptic pickup that doesn't move. :celebration:

Damn that Gamebryo engine....Damn it to Hell! :banghead: