I can't be the only one... : V - Skyrim

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:32 pm

Ah. I remember my firs Oblivion gate so well. The one at Kvatch, and it was one of the best moments in oblivion for me. I was scared as hell, saved every five steps, and it was just so intense! However, they quickly lost their novelty. It was not long before i sighed every time the sky went red. I prefer dragons.

I was the same way; the first one had me shaking. After the fifth or sixth I realized that the five daedra inside weren't much of a threat to me or the people of Cyrodiil. I got tired of them rather quickly. In fact, in later games, prior to finishing the MQ (assuming I had somehow started the Oblivion Crisis by getting too close to Kvatch) if the sky went red I would reload an earlier save and steer clear of the area I had been in.

By contrast, in Skyrim I see myself chancing down dragons every time I see one. They're not as big and scary as I'd hoped (though mods fix that), but they are much more entertaining to battle in my opinion.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:18 am

I ended up creating a 100% Chameleon outfit using Sigil Stones, so I could just run to the damn levers and gain access to the sanctum.

Your post just reminded me of that strategy. I, too, had a "Gate Closing Kit" of 100% Chameleon so that I could zip through the towers as quickly as possible.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:30 am

Dragons definitely.
Skyrim is better than Oblivion.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:25 pm

Dragons are amazing.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:03 am

Man I want your dragons in MY game. Damn things never pick a fight with me. I sit there shooting at them for half an hour and they're still just minding their own business. Unless I actually hit them, then it's game on! Aside from that, I have to wait til they attack civilians or go to a word wall if I want a dragon fight.

But I do like the dragon's implementation more. They attack you, and you can find them. Be it word walls or whatever

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:26 pm

I way prefer dragons. The Oblivion gates after thefirst one were pretty tedious to me frankly. I did the main quest once and then said goodbye to the main quest and got a main quest refusal mod. Just doing Kvatch was plenty for me. Dragon's on the other hand I really like.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:06 pm

I'm torn between the two, they both had their time and place. Sure the gates became repetitive and dragons became more of a nuisance than a challenge. Sometimes I just want a simple battle with 1 boss and other times I just want to explore a mysterious alien realm.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:39 pm

Man I want your dragons in MY game. Damn things never pick a fight with me. I sit there shooting at them for half an hour and they're still just minding their own business. Unless I actually hit them, then it's game on! Aside from that, I have to wait til they attack civilians or go to a word wall if I want a dragon fight.

I'm having this trouble too. I still prefer the dragons to the Oblivion gates, but half the time I can't get the damn things to attack me. In 110 hours I've only collected 25 dragon souls, yet I've seen nearly three times as many dragons. Most often it seems shortly after I exit a dungeon I'll hear one fly overhead. Usually this ends in me having spent a quiver of arrows (and using half a dozen shouts) in a futile attempt to draw attention to myself only to watch the dragon turn away and fly off into the distance.

I console myself by yelling triumpantly toward the clouds, "That's right, you coward! You better run!"

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:27 pm

i found myself not doing the mainquests to avoid both of those after the first playthrough, they both just arent fun anymore after the first few

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:24 pm

sigil stones > dragon scales

*at least with sigil stones you could enchant WEAPONS

gates > dragons

* because every dragon fight is the same. scream, fly around, i wait for you to land, hack hack, dragon dies.

and as many have said we can stop the OB gates opening. by A) not starting the MQ or

finishing the MQ

pretty damn easy to control their appearance. in skyrim we will be pestered by these reskinned cliff racers forever

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:18 pm

I had to think about this question for a while. And then decided I prefered the Oblivion gates.

Not only was it fascinated to be in a world not like yours, but they turned on and off depending if you activated the MQ or ended the MQ pretty easy. Dragons stay forever. They don't disappear so it doesn't feel like you really saved the world.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:40 pm

You know what I liked about the Oblivion Gates? They went away after the MQ was over.

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» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:40 pm

I wish dragon fights were not always the same, and they actually used more than one shout and different strategies, and weren't made completely useless by dragonrend and stagger attacks.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:15 pm

After slogging through three Oblivion gates, I had seen enough. Every single one was the same thing in a slightly different layout. Dragons are certainly more interesting to fight but that doesn't mean I prefer them. They're both kind of lame, stale Oblivion gates over and over or dealing with Dragons who eat all of my NPCs.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:16 am

Both of them were AWESOME the first time around. The first Oblivion Gate was just pure awe and surprise, and danger. The first dragon was super exciting to see (I could barely hit it, god bless all the guards that were there) and didn't come until the third or four hour of gameplay, since I didn't rush the main campaign (haven't even beat it yet! 110 Hours into the game)

After a while, I prefer Dragons to Oblivion Gates. At least the Dragons are a single enemy, I can take some friends to fight with me, and no Dragon yet has taken me more than 15 minutes to beat. Plus, the Dragon Souls are a much better prize than the sigil stones, that were level-based =/

I wouldn't mind if the Dragons went away after I was done with the main quest, though.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:46 am

If the Dragons stopped coming after you finished the MQ, perhaps I'd take the dragons.

I simply ignored Oblivion gates except for the 2 or 3 that I absolutely HAD to do.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:15 pm

I've got every word of every shout and have 17 dragon souls to spare and I still enjoy fighting Dragons. Oblivion Gates got boring after 3 or 4 of them.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:09 pm

Who prefers oblivion gates to dragons. I mean, what is more badass; Charging into the gates of hell, killing demons inside a foreign world of chaos and destruction, or wating five minutes for a god damned dragon to land so you can hack its head off.

I want both. Simplez.

Oblivion seems absolutely enormous as a game world simply becuase of the portals and the vast levels they normally contained. I would pay a fair amount of MS points for a DLC package that added an Oblvion crysis in Skyrim. Ive said if before and Ill say it again, I loved it for the same reasons as you; It was badass charging in to "hell" and severely prodding buttock.

Dragons are good in Skyrim, Oblvion gates rocked. Have both, its ubdertastic cool.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:19 pm

I definitely prefer the dragons by far. On my second character I've been playing for a long time without starting the main quest and I miss the dragons! I never missed the Oblivion gates when I did that in Oblivion.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:57 pm

Who prefers oblivion gates to dragons. I mean, what is more badass; Charging into the gates of hell, killing demons inside a foreign world of chaos and destruction, or wating five minutes for a god damned dragon to land so you can hack its head off.

not me, i sighed everytime i saw a OB gate that i had to close. It was such a tedious chore making your way thru to the sigil stone...had they made better oblivion planes i might agree with you

btw you dont have to wait 5 mins for them to land if you get a certain shout

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:09 pm

*Enter Skyrim*

:drag:

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*That is all*

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:55 pm

I, too, prefer dragons, although it took a while for the gates to become annoying. What finally did it was a particular 'world' that had an overly-serpentine surface layout, including elevation changes, that turned what could have been a 15-minute trek into a two-hour slog as I had to keep doubling back after tripping a lever to open a sealed gate. I ended up creating a 100% Chameleon outfit using Sigil Stones, so I could just run to the damn levers and gain access to the sanctum.

Had they not been so bizarrely laid out I would probably not have cared about having them constantly popping up, since dealing with them wouldn't have been so annoying. Dragons I don't particularly mind, although I sometimes get irritated when they refuse to attack and just keep circling, since they do so out of attack range.

This gate world sounds like the one that makes me LOVE acrobatics. The one with 7 towers, and the "right way" into the central tower is from just two of the surrounding six? Well, if you jump off the bridge from one of the other four and mountain-walk the central tower a bit, you can drop right onto the proper catwalk...

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:52 pm

I loved them both , Long Live The Elder Scrolls.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:34 am

Gates, definetly. My favorite dungeon type of Oblion, and the items you find there were always good.

Dragons however take a long time to kill and don't really have anything worthwhile. But it's a good thing there are practically no random dragons in my game, so i have to go and hunt them at their lairs which ensures i get a soul, a Word, and to loot the boss chest while i'm there :hehe:

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:21 pm

sigil stones > dragon scales

*at least with sigil stones you could enchant WEAPONS

gates > dragons

* because every dragon fight is the same. scream, fly around, i wait for you to land, hack hack, dragon dies.

and as many have said we can stop the OB gates opening. by A) not starting the MQ or :cool:

finishing the MQ

pretty damn easy to control their appearance. in skyrim we will be pestered by these reskinned cliff racers forever

Dragon souls are needed to unlock powerful shouts that have The Force type qualities.