Can Ulfric Really Shout?

Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:24 am

Yes he can,He used it when i fight over solitude.
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Sarah Knight
 
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:43 pm

In the beginning of the game did I want to put an early end to the civil war and sneaked into Ulfric's quarters and tried to kill him, only to find out that he was an essential character. Lots of fus-ro-da was the result. And all his guards are essential, I could not kill a single one of them, which svcked.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:40 pm

I have video of him shouting at me, after the civil war questline I attacked him lol.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:27 am

Nords+Ulfric+dragonborn= Destruction of Thalmer and Imperials.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:11 am

In the opening cutscene there are a couple a mentions of Ulfric shouting. The one specifically I'm going to reference is by General Tullius. "Ulfric Stormcloak. Some here in Helgen call you a hero, but a hero doesn't use a power like the voice to murder his king and usurp his throne." Now I'm fairly certain I've heard other rumors and such that say US killed Torygg ( I believe is his name ) by using the Thu'um. Is there any truth to this or is it just that "pass it on" kind of thing. Say where the rumor goes around that he first murders the High King, then somewhere down the line other people add little tweaks until it is not the same story. I noticed Ulfric had a gag in his mouth in the cutscene which would make a good bit of sense seeing as how he would need to speak to use The Voice. Thanks to any contributors.

What I'm wondering is, which version of the story is true? Did Ulfric shout him off the throne and slay him with a sword? Or did the shout really tear his body apart?
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:08 pm

What I don`t understand about Ulfric is why does a bit of cloth around his mouth stop Ulfric from using his Shout? I mean a helmet doesn`t stop me, but a bit of rag stops him?

Why didn`t he just shout his way to freedom?

I think the Beth writers made a bit of a plot hole boo boo there.
its a gag not a peace of cloth gently tied around his face. you can yell, scream, and hum but you cant move your tongue or lips to form words. a thu'um is a word, not random moaning or groaning.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:45 pm

its a gag not a peace of cloth gently tied around his face. you can yell, scream, and hum but you cant move your tongue or lips to form words. a thu'um is a word, not random moaning or groaning.

You know, that's really pretty cool on their part. Very smart of the Imperials to gag someone who can use the Thu'um.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:35 pm

Baalgruff can shout, you shout at him and you don't get a bounty, the same is true for ulfric (although i havent tested on him yet)
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:18 pm

What I don`t understand about Ulfric is why does a bit of cloth around his mouth stop Ulfric from using his Shout? I mean a helmet doesn`t stop me, but a bit of rag stops him?

Why didn`t he just shout his way to freedom?

I think the Beth writers made a bit of a plot hole boo boo there.
Depends how tightly it was tied up, if he shouted he could also potentially rip his own head off. :nod:
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:30 am

What I'm wondering is, which version of the story is true? Did Ulfric shout him off the throne and slay him with a sword? Or did the shout really tear his body apart?
The game tells you the story. Read the spoiler if you want to know:
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Ulfric will tell you himself that he used a shout but that it was his sword that killed the High King.
Everyone can learn a shout, he says, it is only very difficult. He studied with the Greybeards for sometime (...if I recall the dialogue correctly).
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:06 am

The game tells you the story. Read the spoiler if you want to know:
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Ulfric will tell you himself that he used a shout but that it was his sword that killed the High King.
Everyone can learn a shout, he says, it is only very difficult. He studied with the Greybeards for sometime (...if I recall the dialogue correctly).

Obviously I already knew that, if you read my post. The game presents two sides of the story that people believe just as much..Ulfric could be lying to try and seem more honorable, or it's one of those tales that got blown way out of proportion.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:19 am

Obviously I already knew that, if you read my post. The game presents two sides of the story that people believe just as much..Ulfric could be lying to try and seem more honorable, or it's one of those tales that got blown way out of proportion.

Well he knows Disarm and Unrelenting force, last time I checked neither tears people to pieces.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:52 pm

If Unrelenting Force can fling Mercer Frey with all his Nightingale powers into a wall and kill him, imagine what it can do in a smaller area to a weaker man. Less "explosion," more "splat."
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:47 pm

Well he knows Disarm and Unrelenting force, last time I checked neither tears people to pieces.

Right, so..perhaps he is telling the truth. Either way it's just one of those situations where we might not ever know. Just a legend now. Unless one of the DLCs has an opening cut-scene reliving the events that lead up to the War.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:54 pm

He shouted him, nearly tearing his body apart and finished him off with a weapon. I believe it was a sword.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:02 pm

He uses Fus Ro Dah and Disarm. When we attacked Solitude, there was a lot of Imperial Soldiers punching us.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:21 pm

He shouted at me when i showed up with the Imperial army and took Windhelm. Staggered me a bit. Then I shouted back. He bounced off the far wall and fell to his knees.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:17 pm

What I don`t understand about Ulfric is why does a bit of cloth around his mouth stop Ulfric from using his Shout? I mean a helmet doesn`t stop me, but a bit of rag stops him?

Why didn`t he just shout his way to freedom?

I think the Beth writers made a bit of a plot hole boo boo there.

I suspect something like a piece of cloth or wadding was put into his mouth and then the cloth tied around his mouth to stop him spiting it out, this method would stop him being able to form words/shouts properly, also his nose is not covered so i'd imagine thats how he's getting his breath.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:40 pm

Yeah he shouted at me one time when i fought him yeah i was like he just shouted me he used fus ro dah.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:47 pm

Baalgruff can shout, you shout at him and you don't get a bounty, the same is true for ulfric (although i havent tested on him yet)
Jarl baalgruff also went to high hrothgar. He's tells the dragonborn when he suggest him that being summoned is a great honor.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:48 am

He can shout but basically he can't swat the flies off his butt when it gets down to it.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:37 pm

He shouted at me when i showed up with the Imperial army and took Windhelm. Staggered me a bit. Then I shouted back. He bounced off the far wall and fell to his knees.

Makes sense. He is a normal man who had to train from childhood to be able to do what he did. You are the dragonborn who is a more adapt learner then even the greybeards themselves with enough potential to become stronger then they are. Why wouldn't you be able to bounce him off of a wall?
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:30 am

He attempted to shout out my voice when we fought in windhelm.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:21 pm

yes, he used it when we took solitude and slew tullius like the dog he was :nod: you dont have to be a dovakiin to use the thu'um ya know
Funny you should mention that. As I recall, Ulfric whimpered like a pup as he crawled at the feet of Tullius and the Dovahkiin at the front steps of his palace in Winterhold. I guess your name is supposed to be ironic? Rebel scum... :tongue: Now that the rebel dogs have been routed, we can get back to (rebelling?) ousting the Thalmor.

(All in good fun...It's nice to have such disparity. It means they did a good job of writing a conflict without a clear "good guy.")
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:51 pm

Obviously I already knew that, if you read my post. The game presents two sides of the story that people believe just as much..Ulfric could be lying to try and seem more honorable, or it's one of those tales that got blown way out of proportion.
I was not sure if you knew so I posted it. If you then do not believe him when he tells you the truth, then who do you want to believe? If you doubt everyone's word then you will have a hard time finding the truth at all. You need to make a choice. Either you believe the rumours or you believe Ulfric. Either one can be the truth.

There is then no one truth or an absolute truth, nor is truth based on a majority concept like democracy. Even when you choose to believe one side of a story is there always a chance for someone to come and tell you a different - a third - version. You are never save from believing the wrong things and so you may as well choose to believe which ever you like best until a better one comes along. Try to find reasons why you want to believe in either of the versions and match them against each other. Maybe this will help.
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