Cigarettes and E-cigs

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:33 am

I've been smoking around 25 years. Doubt I will ever be able to shake the habit. I was able to beat back drug and alcohol addiction but cigarettes are way worse. Every time I have tried to quit I just shut down and sleep only to wake up and yell at everyone. Don't start smoking kids.
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Jaki Birch
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:21 am

Don't start smoking kids.

yeah, it's an expensive habit, makes me glad I don't smoke
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:20 am

I'm 1+ year smoke free as of 11:45PM April 15th. (Why yes, I did note the exact time I had my last smoke. :P) I quit cold turkey. Just decided I had had enough of this crap and the issues, plus cost, associated with it. I smoked for over 20 years with a few breaks here and there. (Would have been 25 years without them.)

I have quite for 3 years once, and 1 year twice before. (So this is my 3rd 1 year stint.) I'm confident I will not relapse this time. My life is much different now than then. Well, in some, important ways. In others, it's status quo.

I never tried these "e-cigs". Either you smoke, or you don't, that is my view.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 11:11 am

My dad's a psychologist, and has always told me that (from what he's heard from different people) cigarette withdrawal is the worst of any type of drug, even more so than hard stuff like cocaine or heroin. He said that it's just something about the desire to smoke which is way more insidiously difficult to shake than any other drug.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:31 am

I enjoy a 10 pack of Marlboro Gold a week, three on the Monday, three on the Tuesday and four on the Wednesday.

EDIT: Never tried an Ecig, probably sooner just quit.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:49 pm

I'm 1+ year smoke free as of 11:45PM April 15th. (Why yes, I did note the exact time I had my last smoke. :tongue:)

I'm always surprised when I see people who can remember the exact moment! I can't even remember which year I quit. :laugh:
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:43 pm

My dad's a psychologist, and has always told me that (from what he's heard from different people) cigarette withdrawal is the worst of any type of drug, even more so than hard stuff like cocaine or heroin. He said that it's just something about the desire to smoke which is way more insidiously difficult to shake than any other drug.

I won't go too far into details, but I'll say this much, as a former heroin/cocaine and cigarette addict, I say poppycock!

You do not want to experience (physical) heroin withdrawal! Trust me. (Cocaine is definitely more psychological than physical like heroin though.)

I'd quite smoking once a month for the rest of my life before I'd want to spend one night "dope sick" again.

(Sorry if this crosses the line mods, I just felt it need a bit of personal history to to validate my point better.)

P.S.

I'm always surprised when I see people who can remember the exact moment! I can't even remember which year I quit. :laugh:

The only reason I did, was because I swore I would not be a smoker on my 40th B-day. I went right to line, as the 16th was my B-day. :)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:25 am

Stewart's mama says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlBBmFKKreQ
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:27 pm

Smoked several times at parties and stuff. Never wanted to start buying that stuff though. I don't want to [censored] up my lungs.
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Sarah Kim
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:06 am

i have lungs of steel
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Taylor Thompson
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:50 pm

My dad's a psychologist, and has always told me that (from what he's heard from different people) cigarette withdrawal is the worst of any type of drug, even more so than hard stuff like cocaine or heroin. He said that it's just something about the desire to smoke which is way more insidiously difficult to shake than any other drug.

I think it's actually the act of smoking that makes it so addictive. Tapping the box. Lighting the cig. Taking a puff. Holding the cig in your fingers.

It's a long ritual repeated many times a day. That's why the Ecig is better than a patch. You get to mimic what you used to do.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:31 pm

I think it's actually the act of smoking that makes it so addictive. Tapping the box. Lighting the cig. Taking a puff. Holding the cig in your fingers.

It's a long ritual repeated many times a day. That's why the Ecig is better than a patch. You get to mimic what you used to do.

Exactly. It's also so easy to get cigarettes, since they're legal past 18. It's not like you can walk into a supermarket and buy cocaine :P.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:03 pm

Nicotine is the most addictive drug known to man and smoking is both obnoxious to other people and bad for your health. Why anyone would want to get involved with it is beyond me.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:24 am

Nicotine is the most addictive drug known to man and smoking is both obnoxious to other people and bad for your health. Why anyone would want to get involved with it is beyond me.
Depression, frustration, or depression/frustration induced by stress. For people who might get very little or nothing out of sitting down and breating out (or anything else really), nicotin can be a great stress reducer.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:25 pm

Exactly. It's also so easy to get cigarettes, since they're legal past 18. It's not like you can walk into a supermarket and buy cocaine :tongue:.

It's actually easier for underage teens to obtain illegal drugs, because there are no checks required, and there are lots of dealers about.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:22 pm

E-cigs are a pain since they aren't approved by the FDA. While they are fun to smoke they aren't available at all locations. It is hard to find the cartridges that properly fit your model when your cartridges run out. If you want a E-cig then don't ever buy one at a mall. You will have to go back to that place to find the cartridges that fit your model. So if you want to buy one make sure it is at a location that sells the replacement equipment at a decent price, or it will end up being almost as expensive as regular cigarettes.

As for cigarettes unfortunately I am a social smoker, so whenever a friend does, I do. I have been smoking a lot lately which isn't good, but it is relaxing. Though my max a day is 3 or else I start feeling gross. Favorite kind- Marlboro Skylines.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:09 am


Depression, frustration, or depression/frustration induced by stress. For people who might get very little or nothing out of sitting down and breating out (or anything else really), nicotin can be a great stress reducer.
Too bad there are a lot more healthier stress relievers out there.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:40 am

Depression, frustration, or depression/frustration induced by stress.
Sure, but it's one of the worst ways to deal with it that I've ever heard of.

I can't picture myself ever smoking, not because I've never been depressed or stressed before, but because my rational self is far too conscious of the consequences.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:22 pm

I don't smoke but my girlfriend does. It's a shame they let a drug be sold to people like that :(
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:54 am

Sure, but it's one of the worst ways to deal with it that I've ever heard of.

I can't picture myself ever smoking, not because I've never been depressed or stressed before, but because my rational self is far too conscious of the consequences.
And that's definitely good for you. And it's very true, smoking is not a constructive release, but it's a release nontheless. And in terms of more... rapid deterioration, it's at the very least somewhat better than hard drugs. I've yet to see a smoker under 65, dragging themselves around with a mind of mush, pale as a corpse and tarnished. The only one I've ever seen like that was my grandfather, actually, and he was 76 when he died. In terms of addiction, while it's hard to rid yourself with, it's far less imminent and potent than many other things. It's slow, and that is at the very least something.

But anyway, enough justification, it's dumb, I'll admit.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:52 pm

I don't smoke but my girlfriend does. It's a shame they let a drug be sold to people like that :(

There are thousands of pharmacuticals with horiffic side-effects prescribed. Modern medicine isn't magic, it has flaws too.

Just take sleeping pills and prozac for instance, they're the drugs we should be focusing on
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:51 pm



I won't go too far into details, but I'll say this much, as a former heroin/cocaine and cigarette addict, I say poppycock!

You do not want to experience (physical) heroin withdrawal! Trust me. (Cocaine is definitely more psychological than physical like heroin though.)

I'd quite smoking once a month for the rest of my life before I'd want to spend one night "dope sick" again.

(Sorry if this crosses the line mods, I just felt it need a bit of personal history to to validate my point better.)

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The only reason I did, was because I swore I would not be a smoker on my 40th B-day. I went right to line, as the 16th was my B-day. :)
Yes this is true. I know nicotine withdrawal is bad, but not nearly as bad opiate withdrawal. People who think nicotine and cigarettes are the most addictive drug don't really know what they're talking about. I know from experience just like wolfpup. Opiate withdrawals consist of having no energy whatsoever to the point where it's hard to stand up. You're tired but you can't sleep, runny nose, excessive diarrhea, stomach cramps, muscle cramps, restless legs, hot and cold flashes, shaking, no appetite, dry heaving and horrible depression. This lasts for about a week. If one were to kick, which is hard because the cure could be right in front of you.

But anyways, the only thing I don't like about the Njoy E-cigs is that when they're about out they are hard to inhale the vapor out of.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:51 pm

Too bad there are a lot more healthier stress relievers out there.
Sure, but once again, just because something is healthier, doesn't mean it'll work. Which is my point. To some, nicotin is just that one thing that works.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:26 am

But anyway, enough justification, it's dumb, I'll admit.
Well, as long as you're justifying smoking, I'll justify it's anti-sentiment. Dad's dad died of a heart attack after enduring several operations and previous attacks induced by many years of smoking when he was just over forty, so I never knew him and dad was fatherless from the age of 18 and onward. Hit him kind of hard. Dad's always been disgusted by smoking but this really made him hate it, and I've grown up under that perspective.

So 'nuff said, I guess.

Yes this is true. I know nicotine withdrawal is bad, but not nearly as bad opiate withdrawal. People who think nicotine and cigarettes are the most addictive drug don't really know what they're talking about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#Dependence_and_withdrawal I can imagine that opiate withdrawal has worse symptoms, but nicotine is nonetheless the more addictive drug of 'em all.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:36 am

Yes this is true. I know nicotine withdrawal is bad, but not nearly as bad opiate withdrawal. People who think nicotine and cigarettes are the most addictive drug don't really know what they're talking about. I know from experience just like wolfpup. Imagine having no energy whatsoever to the point where it's hard to stand up. You're tired but you can't sleep, runny nose, excessive diarrhea, stomach cramps, muscle cramps, restless legs, hot and cold flashes, shaking, no appetite, dry heaving. This lasts for about a week. If one were to kick, which is hard because the cure could be right in front of you.

I had an easier time than you all with the opiates. I never used needles and steeped down slowly with the codone and cet family. Thing about tobacco smoking is way more accepted and it's withdrawal symptoms and addiction get so hardwired in to your brain. I reach for a smoke and don't even realize I'm doing it but I knew every time I went to get a fix what I was doing.
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