You make it almost sound you're... testing it.
That can't be right. Can it? That's not what I've come to expect, after all. :whistling:

Ok thx 4 info. I hope on tthis week I see the patch (actually I have 1C version game, so Im anyway received NEW patch after one or two weeks, after WORLD release patcn number 4)

I actually don't have any news on the 1C release. The updates I'm we're finalizing are for the versions of the game published by Bethesda.

If I hear anything, I'll let you know.

As part of your process who all has to QA and certify your patch? I'm assuming Sony for the PS3 and Microsoft for the XBox, naturally.

Is there a 3rd-party QA for the PC version by either Microsoft (because of the "Games for Windows" label) or by Steam (since they use their system to distribute and patch)?

How much lag time (generally) does any of these 3rd-parties add to your patch release process?

Yeah I'm sure many of us would be happy to have the option to download beta versions of patches in the future if that sped up the process. I know a lot of content distribution networks (like Impulse and Steam) do handle differentiation between release and beta patch versions so people can opt in to download the test version of an update.

Have you guys been looking at the new ATI performance problems (introduced in the latest patch) for this next patch?

I have to agree with this one. If you order a well-done steak at the restaurant and it's not even half-done, you usually ask for a new plate. There's a really bad culture in the gaming industry that I'm getting sick and tired of, that you pay for a product that is broken just because the devs blames it all on "not having enough time" or whatever. I'm not necessarily saying it's the devs fault, but the industry in general that is so lucrative and as such, they don't seem to bother with actually providing us with a proper experience.

I do think New Vegas is a great game, experience-wise, but when you see all the bugs and whatnot in games that could've otherwise have sold to that many more players, if it was just done better and people were even more impressed, then I gotta ask what the heck they're thinking of. Don't they want big game sales? Did they skip the class where they learn the exponential effect of game sales yielded from games that are solid from the start?

In any case, I am sure that at least individual Obsidian employees will learn from their mistakes and in time, the patch will come and we'll have a couple of pretty kickass DLCs as well. The question is just how many people who would bother to buy them, because now it's gradually becoming an established fact that NV is terribly bugged and this might not go away easy even though the game gets patched.

We'll see. I just hope the best for Beth/Obsi, even though it always feels like it's always the next game (rather than the current) that they're gonna be doing just right.

Thanks.

My video cared is a single AMD 5850, intel e8400, 4gb ram, P45 MB, Win7 x64, etc.
On my PC, the vanilla FO:NV patched (or not at all) to 1.2 has an incredibly annoying stuttering that does break the game for me. It rears it's ugly head mainly when I turn the view with the mouse (even worse using a 360 controller). It's surely not related to water sampling, or any of the settings whatsoever, since it has the SAME stuttering when running on low at 1280x720 (looking just like a launch Ps2 game, with stutters).
HOWEVER, one app has fixed it with a flawless victory, as if the problem was very obvious and easily fixable for years. It's called FNV4GB. Apparently, besides other things, it "hooks and replaces the Windows GetTickCount() function that may improve stuttering." fixing the stuttering and making this a playable videogame again. You can find it in falloutvegasnexus.
Please developers, make note of this and deliver us a fix in this next patch, so that AMD users, or 64 bit OS users, or honest citizen users can enjoy this very fine game (and so I can stop replaying FO2!).

Thanks, can't wait! Really hoping that the new patch will fix my CTD issues.

Have you posted your DXDIAG info anywhere yet? I've seen that you do seem to be having quite a few issues with the game but couldn't seem to find a specific help request with detailed information including your DXDIAG. On the off chance the issue is not one that will be solved with the patch, people may be able to help if you were to provide that information.

[EDIT] Wait, actually people have offered to help you several times in the many threads you've posted complaints in but you've posted no responses I can see. Seriously- people will try to help. Just respond with some more info because your 10 minute average up time before crashing is not typical and there might be something people can do to help about that.

Oh Thx a lot 4 answer/respond (actually I don't think someone from Bethesda staff look 4 this problem) ! :foodndrink:

Like example I buy game in Moscow and activate in STEAM (1C/Cenega version), the problem is on OUR version we NEVER received patch like all world, like example, when u released first patch on 21/22 october, 1C version on steam received this patch only 29 ocotber, and the patch from 10 november(1.2.0.285), we received only 16 november, that's the problem :cryvaultboy:

I wonder how much 1C/Cenega has to do to make the patch compatible. Depending on how different the master files are for the releases it could be anywhere from a couple hours of checking to a few days of reworking the patch contents. I would think Bethesda works to package the patch contents they send to make localization as easy as possible though.

I really hope this patch coming out fixes my issues. I get constant stutters and frame drops, and the latest patches fixed some things but created loads of other problems, and I get CTDs regularly now. Also is anyone besides me getting a problem where when in ati crossfire you get screen tearing indoors despite having v-sync on in the game and even forced on through CCC? It gets worse and worse as the game goes on, along with the stuttering. Sure I could just play with one card, but I have two cards and would like to use both without the screen tearing and stuttering I get indoors in FNV. Anyone know of any possible solutions to this? I already downloaded the latest drivers and everything.

I understand the general anger and frustration, I didn't realize all the PC issues until I came here to post for help, holy cow it's not good.

Well my NV was OK with the occasional CTD, falling out of a cell, clipping, slow frame rate, etc. but what really gets me :swear: I can't get a second play through going and no, I removed the mods I get CTD every time.......weird thing is I can load a 1st play through up and play the damn game wtf is going on?

I really am trying to keep the fan boy faith here but I'm really having a hard go of it....I hate to think we should have to expect theses things from Bethesda releases, it's bad business for sure but there track record is proving itself this way unfortunately.


bigcrazewolf

Have I mentioned how awesome it is when we hear from you, Gstaff? It's wonderful. I just wish Bethesda would hire some people to back you up, since apparently you're the only person that handles costumer service. Not that you do a bad job of it, just that there's thousands of us and one of you.

Will this patch address the severe framerate and stuttering issues that the last patch introduced?

The game is 100% unplayable for me ATM.

Hello,

I hope the "final-touches" include the Cowboy-Repeater-Unresponsive-Keys-Bug, too.

Heh, I'd be happy if thats ALL it fixed. What a pain that is.

The stuttering and framerate drop is so severe since the latest patch that I am no longer able to play the game at all.

Yes, I'm pissed. I bought a product and it doesn't work at all.

I know what you mean Cavadus! I've just had the [censored] game crash on me twice in less than 2 minutes! Am I pissed off at forking out nearly ￡50 for the collectors edition, yes I [censored] am! Should have downloaded the piece of [censored] instead and been a pirate, at least that way I wouldn't give a [censored] if the game was bugged to hell!! As I know I wouldn't have forked out good money for the game when I could have paid for something that worked instead!!

Sort it out, the patch is almost ready! Really!?

When would that be then, final touches? Haven't you had a month since release (nearly) to add final touches to the 'polished' game you released? The only thing about this game is it was polished with a great big bloody turd!

Next game I buy from Bethesda/whoever [censored] this one up so badly will be from a website, NOT forking out my hard earned cash ever again on a useless P.O.S! That should have been fixed within days after release not nearly a MONTH.....

First of all I love Beth ad Obsidian,
but I bought the game and ploayed it for a while and loved it
now it CTD when trying to save, eter a new area etc.
it is very annoying.
but I hear the patch is coming soon so thank you for that.

This is a FANTASTIC post, that all at Bethesda/Obsidian should take note of. Maybe have Gabe give you guys some hints on Customer relations/Quality Control for good measure.
(Thank CHRIST future Fallout's will feature a different, PROPERLY coded, engine in the future: Carmack, The Zenimax Saviour)


And just to add, whoever wants to complain about ANYTHING in life, they have the right to do so ANYWHERE. If YOU dont like it, thats YOUR problem

Until you join a private forum with rules.

Then you can still complain, but you have to follow the rules you agreed to abide by when you joined.

I can already see the sh*t storm coming, when the patch is released and some people still experience crashes and bad performance.

I think that the people experiencing CTD and BSODs and performance problems should start to trouble shoot what the problem might be instead of just sitting around waiting for a patch, as I believe that many of these problems stem for incompatibilities between software, drivers, codecs, hardware etc. and the Gamebryo engine. And I seriously do not think that all of these problems can/will be solved by a patch.

But hey - that is just my thinking, and I could of course be wrong.