Isn't Lorkhan an Aedra since he was involved with creation?

Depends on your definition. If you use the one you are using then yes, if you use the one that Altmer use then no, although primarily because they hate Lorkhan, if you are a stormcloack then yes (Talos = Shor = Lorkhan) if you are with the Empire then no (No Talos, No Shor).

Theoretically, this is true. You overlooked their own realms though. Daedric Princes do not occupy Tamriel, they merely cast fragments of themselves into it. When you [Spoiler] kill Sheogorath/Jyggalag in the Shivering Isles and take up his throne and let Jyggalag go free, it was only because you were in his realm because that is where they fully exist.

I wonder about Alduin's world eating, would he also devour Oblivion realms ?

From what we've seen? No. He just eats Mundus and completely undoes creation, destroying the wheel in the process. Time returns to a pre-dawn state, or advances to a pre-dawn state whatever and then nothing exists anymore.

Yes, but when you wear full Daedric Armor during his fight at TotW he replies "Even the Daedra fear me !".

I have never heard him say that. But even then if the dragonborn can destroy his mortal form with sword and shield then any Daedric prince could that forever with a snap. Even if he comes back they will just do it again

One daedra does not automatically mean a prince. Still Alduin can beat Daedric princes, we've seen that before. Mehrunes cowered before him at least once. But there is a different between being afraid of somebody because they can hurt you, or becuase they can kill you.

When did Mehrunes cower? Is this an origin story?

What about Azura's star? It's supposed to be able to hold any soul if I remember correctly.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga

The leaper king is Mehrunes Dagon.


Azura's star is part of her realm, it can hold any soul but it could never hold Azura her soul. I doubt it could hold the soul of other princes by the way, but I can't be 100% sure.

i will be honest...that does not sound like Dagon's style at all. You sure it is not an in-game fiction

This.

The reason the Aedra can possibly die, is because due to Lorkhan's trick, each of the Eight Divines invested much of their power into creating Mundus. Thus, while still as powerful as any Daedric Prince, they have too much invested into the mortal realm and are thus affected by it's laws (to a degree). Magnus didn't die, but he seized back what he had sacrificed when he escaped after realizing and getting pissed at Lorkhan's deception, and in exiting so quickly he tore a hole in the Tapestry as he escaped beck to Aetherius.

The Daedric Princes (the greatest of the Daedra), refused Lorkhan and took no part in the creation of Mundus, so they retain true Immortality. Therefore, when they are "killed", their essence goes into a limbo called the Waters of Oblivion where they wait for an undisclosed amount of time before their bodies reform on their native Plane in Oblivion.

Daedric Princes cannot be killed, only delayed for a time.

Period.

Mehrunes might not have come out of it entirely the same as he went in it, so to speak. Think of what Boethiah did to Trinimac..

No.

Mehrunes Dagon fought an avatar of Akatosh himself at the end of Oblivion, not Alduin. And even then, Mehrunes struck a very telling blow to the Aedra with that axe of his. Look at Akatosh's movements after the battle. He's very seriously hurt. That gives credence to the claim that the Daedric Princes are every bit as powerful as the Aedra.

Alduin may be the first being created by Akatosh, but all that means is that he is less than Aedra or Daedric Prince in power. Alduin may be able to travel to Sovngarde to feed off of the Souls of dead heroes, but he'd get owned by a full on Daedric Prince.

Lesser Daedra might fear Alduin (he's the first Dragon after all), but I see no reason why a Daedric Prince wouldn't beat him like a puppy that crapped on the floor.

I wasn't refering to the fight in Oblivion.

I think that in the book the Azura priest is actually a Chimer, however there could be other Dwemer who worship, however I believe the Dwemer you're refering to may be a Chimer

Azura in the box is a children's book, where certain characters are changed into Dwemer in order to make things sell better.

Azura and the box, well now :

Chapter I

Marobar Sul and the Trivialization
of the Dwemer in Popular Culture

by
Hasphat Antabolis

Well Alduin hasn't gone up against a Daedric Prince before if you weren't referring to Oblivion. Any Daedric Prince would own Alduin like a naughty gecko. He even had to lie to the other Dragons to get them to believe in the superiority of his Thu'um over theirs. Paarthurnax blows that secret. If Alduin didn't have all of the power he says he does and was forced to lie to Dragons to get to rule them, then he'd get flat owned by a Daedric Prince.

But lets compare.

In Oblivion, when Mehrunes Dagon is walking through the Imperial City, you can't even hurt Dagon. You can do damage to him, but he regens faster than you can cause damage. You even have the Blessings of Talos, and you can't hurt Dagon.

In Skyrim, you fight Alduin on top of the TotW, and you mess him up pretty quick. And there, you're just a normal *insert race here* with the Soul of a Dragon, but you're still able to cause impressive amounts of damage to Alduin's corpus.

There really isn't an argument. Lesser Daedra may fear Alduin, but he's a sad joke to a Daedric Prince.

Is this a joke or what? Most of the characters are Dwemer, there are different versions of the story but in all versions they're Dwemer, I could be wrong and if I am I'd love to see the source as Elder Scrolls history really interests me!

This 100%

What about Trinimac, devoured by Boethia to birth malacath? (I think it was malacath anyway lol)

I read OPs post in a stereotypical Windhelm Nord accent, hehe.

If the Daedra were afraid of anything it was the possibility of the Dwemer getting too big for their own boots. Probably the same reason they got pissed off with Jyggalag.

You answered your own question. If he died, he wouldn't have become Malacath.