That's cool, too bad it's completely false in TES.

You can't hurt Alduin without dragonrend either, the guy is immune to damage. Alduin has already eaten Daedric princes in previous Kalpa's, probably in a more powerful state then we find him in Skyrim but he has done so.



http://www.imperial-library.info/content/ancient-tales-dwemer



Didn't die, he simply changed. You can change Daedra. Jyggy got turn into Sheo, but he never died.

Where does it say it's a children's book with characters made Dwemer so it would sell? And I don't think you understand what I was talking about at the time, I was informing someone that the people he thought worshiped Daedra were Chimer, not Dwemer...

Read the last part of every chapter there. It doesn't necessarily say it was done for money but I can't think of a better reason.

You cannot kill a Principality.

You might as well try to kill red, or the smell of strawberries.

Edit: at Fishy: tsk, tsk, quoting Marobar Sul as a guide to Dwemer.
His own http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ancient_Tales_of_the_Dwemer#Part_I:_The_Ransom_of_Zarek state that he knew nothing about Dwemer.

If you go to the specific part I was talking about it actually says there are various versions of this tale which means the guy did not just make it up. Also, it never says anything about the Dwemer being 'used' for effect. Some of the stories have no evidence, however, I would not have referred to these ones...

I didn't mate I just linked to his books to say he wasn't a good guide to the Dwemer. Don't worry.



His stories are basically all fake, that's what it says all the time. He made things up, or changed things to suit his needs. The Dwemer were not nice friendly people like you see in those books.

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Do you even know what I was talking about? Somebody said that some Dwemer worshiped Daedra, BASED on the book Azura and the Box, I said in THAT book it was in fact a Chimer who worshiped Azura... Also in the publisher's note it says the story is based on/similar to tales from various cultures, all of which talk about the Dwemer, so in this case he may have changed things but the other stories still talk about Dwemer. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Azura_and_the_Box if you look here it says how other versions all still talk about Dwemer.

I know that most of his stories are fake however Azura and the Box has other versions which all tell similar stories, I am not saying he is a credible source. I agree that the Dwemer are portrayed incorrectly in his stories and were not nice friendly people, in Azura and the Box they aren't even portrated as 'nice', it is likely Nchylbar sought to show he was better than a Daedric prince (a bad idea) however I was simply replying to someone who thought that Dwemer worshiped Daedra in Azura and the Box.

What about the new Sheogorath could he die?

No, because the Hero of Kvatch retains everything from Sheogorath including his likeness, power and immortality.

You cannot kill Daedric Princes. You can get rid of them temporally but they normally come back, and doing that is almost impossible since you have to defeat them in THEIR realm.. Defeating them anywhere else would only just send them back home, just like killing a Daedra.. Whenever a normal Daedra is killed in Tamriel, they just go back to Oblivion. To truly defeat a normal Daedra, you gotta kill them in Oblivion. Same thing with Daedric Princes except you can't truly kill them no matter what.

Do Daedra like Dremora and Scamps come back even if I kill them in the plane of their master?

If you kill Dremoras and Scamps in Oblivion (Or in their respective world), they stay dead. Any Daedra that isn't a Daedric Prince is like that.

Oh okay, that has relieved me! Daedra and Mythic Dawn people who would die in Tamriel would come back in their plane of Oblivion, that makes sense. It's almost like lichdom so I can understand that. However, my questing battlemage who scours the planes of Oblivion smiting Daedra, I was thinking my efforts were in vain! I guess not, so I can have fun smithing them all over again! Muwahahahaha!

You also cannot kill what isn't truly there, the daedric princes are more like entities aren't they? They can and do take human form but killing these forms isn't actually killing their spirit.
Correct me on any of that if I'm wrong however

I don't believe Princes work like that. They can change their appearance and gender at will. Hermaeus Mora often appears as a mass of tentacles or in the case of Skyrim, a wretched abyss. However they still retain shape. The only exception that I know of is Sithis, who is an entity rather than a person. It was commented on that the nature of Sithis is no Aedra or Daedra, so that ability is probably unique to him.

Sithis is a complete different thing... Lucien had once said, he is the Void. Nothing. Empty. etc... Anyways.. Let's just stick with Daedric Princes.

Daedra can't die. Period.

Even if you somehow managed to kill a Daedric Prince (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No.).

They'd just come back to life, and torture you for an eternity.

Anu and Sithis/Padomay are the two original beings.

Diametrically opposed, Anu is the representation of Stasis and Constancy, Sithis is the embodiment of Change and Chaos. While fully sentient beings, they are also representing concepts so general and vague as to have form within formlessness.

Anu and Sithis birthed/created all of the Aedra, Daedra, and the other spirits descended from them (such as the Ehlnofey [sp?]). Which is why the Dark Brotherhood are so confident in the power of their Patron.

I guarantee that those two are not going anywhere, even if the Thalmor get their wish and unravel the tapestry of Mundus.

dont think they are killable, at least not by a player character/mortal
you could destroy their body if they made it to nirn, but the soul would just return to obliv and they'd reform eventually
to completely destroy a daedric prince would take the power of another god (and even then itd take an above average god like sithis or akatosh) at least i think

Apparantly not, completely misunderstood you. Apologies.


No they don't, In Shivering Isles you see a wellspring of Daedra that constantly gets killed Daedra in there, even if they are killed in the realm of their master.

No.
You cannot kill even a lesser daedra.
You can discorporate them, upon which they fo to the waters of Oblivion, which is a lenghty and painful process to regain form.
This is why lesser daedra ally themselves with a Principality, as they have the power to shorten the process.