if bethesda puts in co-op i will get rid of my copy of skyrim and abandon TES for dragonage whenever i want a fantasy RPG, i'll still play fallout untill it gets co-op though

p.s. todd said never gonna happen (and that is why we love todd )

Let's lay it out on the table, shall we?

If I wanted to play with friend (again), I'd go and resub LoTRO or Rift.

If I wanted to go and heal others, I'd go and resub LoTRO or Rift, log into my Minstrel or Cleric and go heal.


But this game offers me an open ended world with unlimited exploration... all offline. It allows me a break from raids, trash talking in trade channels, griefing, Bio-breaks, spawnkilling, crafting node thievery, smug elitism, DPS parsers and all the other crap that online gameplay fosters.

The bottom line is this: with the ES series I can go and play a game when I want, where I want (and most importantly) how I want... without the headache of relying on another to do so.

Ya i see your point, there are times when i get the desire for some MMO. Its only happened twice in my life, once with WoW then with LOTRO. You'd think that people is what makes the game interesting, but its the people that make the game no longer a game, but a real life drama filled with events that should only have to be put up with at home or in the work place.

However, i'm also desiring a co-op game in a fully realized fanatsy world like SKyrim but without all teh MMO headaches. All in all, you'd still need to rely on people for the experience so at the end of the day it may bring down the glory of the fanasy world. However, if it just an option to try our i don't see how it would hurt someone is is soley sticking in sole gameplay. However, i guess the risk would be the game got more popularity for its co-op and the singal player would be neglected. That would be tragic.

Coop in a game like this would be for role players, above all. Role playing with another person while playing this game as is would be great fun.

I said co-op not mmo, and i guess you would have to wait for this other person. but you would be able to play offline when ever he cant play.

SO what? If you don't want to play this game with other people, why should other people be restricted?

It's clear why someone would not want to play coop, but too many people shoot this idea down because they don't personally like it.

Terrible idea. Another DLC thread? Yikes.

I say no, not every game out there has to go multiplayer.
Let TES stay single player and let them focus on important things like making the world, lore, and mechanics better: oh yes and polishing their games and getting rid of bugs.

poor guy... having his dreams shoot down lol

besides if it was multiplayer i'd worry about someone robbing my house of its items >.<

You're right, case in-point: The Call of Duty series

I remember back when the original CoD was released. They told a great story about a basic infantryman's journey though his eyes during WWII. Now look at the single player side of the series... it's turned to absolute trash, all because of the popularity of the multiplayer side.

I strongly feel (and fear) that this series would walk down that familiar and dreadful road if any online content was incorporated within. This is because you can only fit so much data on a single disk. Therefore one component must be sacrificed in order to appease the other... and I'll be damned if my single player experience suffers because of the once few proponents for multiplayer who grew to be too many.

General gripes about it not fitting the theme aside, I still wouldn't buy a DLC like this. Mostly because I hate people.


Except you guys.

Multiplayer is ruining great games. CoD is one of them. Then look at Warcraft has there even been a hint about WarCraft IV no. Look at Final Fantasy XIV and Dragon Quest X will be a disaster. Look at Fable it was dumbed down a lot and we got a terrible co-op experience.

I do not know why that people want co-op or multiplayer in every game on the market.

Sounds fairly lame and like a waste of dev time to make imo. I am pretty sure the devs agree with me too.

if you don't like co-op don't use it, as long as it doesn't seriously take away from single player world i would be all for it. but TES with online would be awsome and everyone who isn't as dumb as a rock knows this.
anything that adds to the game is good as long as its optional.

The game is designed for intent of single player exploration and questing. There is nothing arcade-ish that stands out gameplay wise to make it a good 'coop' multiplayer game. In fact, i dont understand why anyone would really want to play a non-party based multiplayer rpg. Grinding and making money is actually not what makes Skyrim fun. Multiplayer rpgs rely on that system, thats why they succeed. I personally wouldnt buy anything like that and id immediately assume it would be the coming of the downfall of the ES. Leave crap like that for the Borderlands fans and the guys that can't spell and come up with rambling ridiculous ideas on how to make ES 'better'. No offense btw.

You are dumb as a rock if you think slowly running through plains or roads stopping every 10 mins to dispatch a couple of wolves would make for great coop. The game isnt built for multiplayer... Nor was any entry before this one. To make a decent coop you'd have to make the game more action packed and cut down on open world details. Not to mention the bugs that would be involved if the gameworld was kept as large as it is now. Es has always been about the Single player experience... Not grinding, excessive looting or party based/class based combat

I defintly want co-op and honestly screw all the other die hard loners that only dislike co-op because they have no friends to even play it with. Also a simple 2 person max would'nt really be that hard. The health and damage output would be doubled for enemies and each enemy would drop seperate loot for each person.

Man, does EVERY game made NEED to have some multi-player aspect to it?

What's wrong with good, single player games?

Whew... that excludes me from the crosshairs of your flamethrower. I thank God that:

1) I have friends
2) I'm not a die-hard loner
3) I dislike the co-op idea because this game was tailor made to enhance the single player experience

a TES online would be awsome as long as it is not bethesda themselves working on it, make another studio for that or hire obsiden for it and let bethesda game studios work on TES and fallout

Yuck, NO THANKS!!

I don't see the harm in a co-op experience, but it would be weird since there can only be one Dragonborn to save the day. They would have to get into some weird alternative dimension thing to make it lore-friendly.

Not because I like raiding or anything, I actually despise MMO's. This game just gets very lonely, especially in epic 5+ hour game sessions.

I doubt it. MMOs are just glorified social sites thats it.
I am worried that if that happens TES will die like Warcraft did now WoW but actual Warcraft some people might have forgotten that.

Strange how some people think that because some of us want single player games to remain way does not mean we do not have friends.
If I want to play with my friends I will go play a multiplayer game with them or maybe go hang out or something like that if I want to do something with my friends.

Guild wars is a co-op rpg, and no I dont want any form of multiplayer ever in TES.

You have like a bajillion different MMOs and online Co op RPGs already to play, whereas the single player RPG market pretty much only has TES and nothing else that matches it quality. Even starting to tinker with co op / any kind of multiplayer in TES is going to lead to a degradation of the single player game in the long run as the developers will start making it more and more em-em-oh-ey

It may be me just speculating a bit, but I equate the answer to your question to just two words:

Superiority Complex

I absolutlely hate, hate, hate, hate it when my gamplay style is getting "critiqued" by some snot nosed 16 year old kid who thinks he is God's greatest gift to the gaming community. A lot of online gamers seem to have this insatiable need to feed their egos everytime they log in. The persistant trash talking, elitism and overall rude behavior from other online players have pushed me away from that particular community... and I don't miss it whatsoever.

This game gives players a sabbatical from the constant peer pressure of playing online. I would give my entire TES collection the "E.T. Cartridge" treatment if Bethesda ever implemented online gameplay in any of their future ES series of games. That's how adamant I am about this topic.