DLC Exclusive. Discussion Still Going

Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:04 pm

Since it seems bethesda only cares about the dollar and not the gamer, I will be speaking the only language they seem to understand and not spend my $60 on their product. Now if only more people would do the same, things might change.

LOL, Beth is one of the few companies that still does care about the gamer.
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Zosia Cetnar
 
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:42 am

Even if, by some random chance, Bethesda ever changed their mind, then 360 players would suffer, right? What does it take to get some equality?

giving everyone the dlc would work
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:28 am

I sure hope MS only bought rights to A single exclusive DLC. That'd be fine, I'm sure if people complained enough to Sony they would do the same. Remember those days? Specifically the Soul Calibur days when each platform got their own exclusive? Whatever happened to that?(The following is a rant, do not read if you like MS's business practices regarding the 360) Why can't MS find some other way to try to "out do" their competition? Buying DLC doesn't make your platform better, it just steals the other platforms rights to it(at least by buying a developer, it makes the developer YOURS. Its not like your paying the food salesman to only give you the special spices). I mean, why not make more exclusive franchises rather than milking your current/old ones to death and getting some "exclusive" content.(Mass Effect 2, Bioshock 1 and 2 on PS3, Halo no longer made by Bungie, Fo3 DLC FINALLY reaching the PS3, all show that in terms of exclusives, the 360 is starting to lag behind)
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Juan Suarez
 
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:12 am

LOL, Beth is one of the few companies that still does care about the gamer.


What makes you say that, exactly?
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:50 pm

LOL, Beth is one of the few companies that still does care about the gamer.


If they own a Xbox that is :)
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:16 pm

They had their games on the PC WAY before any Microsoft console,

To be fair these PC's ran Windows.The only reason I can see PC not getting the Dlc at the same time as 360 would be the fact they use Steam now.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:46 am

I bought the game for PC and if I would have known the DLC was going to be exclusive to the 360, I can honestly say I would have not bought the game!
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:10 pm

which is no ones fault but theirs.

Fault? No, it has nothing to do with fault. Did you read the rest of my post? Bethesda has a long-standing relationship with Microsoft that goes back to the original Xbox. They only recently started porting games to Sony's platform, so they don't have as much as an established relationship with Sony. I wouldn't doubt that Bethesda's history with Microsoft has been mutually beneficial. Get what I'm saying? Businesses tend to develop closer relationships with other companies that they've been doing business for a long time. I've seen this first-hand throughout my career as a software developer.

I'm sure there are publishers supporting the same title across multiple platforms, I just can't think of a good example. S'probably something like Guitar Hero content released for all platforms all at the same time or something, but I reckon it happens.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm saying that playing favorites with business partners you have an established relationship with has been around since the dawn of commerce and it doesn't do us any good to be mad about it.

Knowing today's community of gamers, I'd be sticking to my guns and telling the big jock with all the cash to take a running jump off a high cliff, and that the consumers come first, not the corporate hardware battle. Microsoft is so consumed with being first for everything it's known as the company that shot itself in the foot in that hardware battle, by releasing faulty goods just to get a running start. That worked out well for them, when its Japanese rival arrived with fully functioning hardware and a control method out of the clear blue sky. I wouldn't adopt Microsoft's way of doing things if I was a publisher, and I'd bring up their console launch debacle everytime they asked me to. :)

First of all, there's no evidence that this is just Microsoft being a bully. For all we know Microsoft might have paid for this DLC to be developed in the first place, in which case they have some legitimate ownership of it. Second, it's hypocritical to characterize Microsoft as being anti-consumer compared to Sony. Sony is hands-down the most anti-consumer company I've had the displeasure of dealing with in my 34 years on this planet. I can elaborate if you'd like in a PM, but I don't want to go into it in this thread as it's off-topic.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:05 pm

The only DLC I have ever bought for any game was the Broken Steel addon so I could possibly have a decent ending sequence for FO3....wasn't worth the money.

I think I will just wait for a GOTY edition to get any addons....if they are even worth getting at all.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:22 am

What makes you say that, exactly?

Because if they didn't, their RPGs would resemble a Bioware effort. :wink_smile:
Seriously look at the depth and sheer amount of content. Who else puts this much into a game? Maybe R*, but then who else? I'm drawing a lot of blanks...
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:37 am

Why do most of the people still think Bethesda is making this game?
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:23 pm

What makes you say that, exactly?

They listen to us, on the forums. All the others are controlled only by money.
Why do most of the people still think Bethesda is making this game?


We don't. Bethesda and Zenimax are most likely handling the marketing of the game.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:13 am

I bought the game for PC and if I would have known the DLC was going to be exclusive to the 360, I can honestly say I would have not bought the game!

Really, i find that a little strange coming from a PC gamer.With all the mods you have I would not be too worried.Besides nothing is saying PC will never get the DLC,all it realy says is the frist DLC in December will be exclusive to 360.Maybe it too will be time exclusive.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:22 am

I could see why M$ is doing this, xbox360 has the least exclusive games of any system according to most game review sites.

This DLC just better be a timed exclusive...I'm playing this on PC because I prefer graphics&performance and I liked FO3 mods.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:02 am

Why do most of the people still think Bethesda is making this game?

We know Obsidian is making the game, but Beth is pulling the strings and watching over very carefully... In the end, they have the control and final say on things.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:49 am

Because if they didn't, their RPGs would resemble a Bioware effort. :wink_smile:


You mean award winning games like KOTOR Mass Effect and Dragon Age?
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:34 pm

AS far as I'm concerned everyone at bethesda can go crawl in a hole and die. I could care less about WHICH platform they made this commitment to. What I object to is the fact that these deceitful scum, waited until literally the last possible day before release to announce this. Now the only ways for me to get a 360 version are to a) screw myself out of a collector's edition by cancelling my PC preorder, or B) get a 360 version copy and basically spend $50 more. Maybe I'm a spiteful, bad person, but I'm tired of getting screwed, and I hope some karmic justice befalls itself on these people so that they spend the rest of their lives miserable for this kind of irresponsible behavior. For what little good it will do I have also filed a Better Business Bureau complaint for deceptive advertising practices, as I can characterize this last minute bait-and-switch no other way.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:15 pm

You mean award winning games like KOTOR Mass Effect and Dragon Age?

A contemporary Bioware effort. ME 1 and Kotor came before EA's influence. Bioware is a shell of its former self, made to produce generic shooters now, with RPG elements.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:01 am

You mean award winning games like KOTOR Mass Effect and Dragon Age?

Yes games like that which in the case of Mass Effect 2 eventually came/are coming to the PS3?
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:08 am

Because if they didn't, their RPGs would resemble a Bioware effort. :wink_smile:
Seriously look at the depth and sheer amount of content. Who else puts this much into a game? Maybe R*, but then who else? I'm drawing a lot of blanks...


Are you saying if they cared less they'd release games that were less buggy and delivered DLC across all platforms in a very similar time frame?

Okay. Care less, Bethesda. Apparently you care so much you are making business decisions that have a fully negative effect your consumer base.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:30 pm

They cant make the same mistake as what the developers of modern warfar 2 did when the didn't release it to ps3 at the same time the numbers of players dropped and when the dlc came out they lost a sagnificant amout of cash campared to what they would have gotten if it was released for ps3 at the same time. becuase they lost intrest with the game or that they where pissed of about being shaffted!
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:24 pm

Are you saying if they cared less they'd release games that were less buggy and delivered DLC across all platforms in a very similar time frame?

Okay. Care less, Bethesda. Apparently you care so much you are making business decisions that have a fully negative effect your consumer base.

No, Im saying Bethesda RPGs are more in depth and have more content than other games. Oblivions Alchemy system was more in depth than Mass Effect 2 as a whole.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:37 pm

listen... microsoft is a kid with a magnifying glass standing over an ant hill and burning its consumer base alive basically... their fault to bad for them.. pretty soon the hammers gonna fall on em and ill be laughin playin my fnv
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:25 pm

No matter how you look at it, Bethesda poorly timed this exclusivity announcement. The way they released this PR announcement is very suspicious and a slap in the face of an already seething fanbase. It is FO3 DLC all over again. This already has spread like wildfire across the gaming boards and once again unnecessary flaming is going on. Bethesda could have waited, but it seems as if Microsoft forced the issue. Way to support the PS3 and PC fanbase once again.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:23 pm

yeah Bioware focus less on rpg elements and are considerably more Theme-Park than Bethesda SandBox.
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