DLC Exclusive. Discussion Still Going

Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:45 pm

AS far as I'm concerned everyone at bethesda can go crawl in a hole and die.

Oh, so you'd rather trade one DLC for the discontinuation of the Fallout series and Elder Scrolls. You disgust me :)
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Darian Ennels
 
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:43 pm

Since it seems bethesda only cares about the dollar and not the gamer, I will be speaking the only language they seem to understand and not spend my $60 on their product. Now if only more people would do the same, things might change.


well it takes people sticking to their ideals. I to date have still not bought a UBI Soft game since the whole Silent Hunter V [censored] up they did with the "constant internet connection required" even though its a single player game. I would very much like to get that western game "Call of Juarez : Bound in Blood" but I havent bought it since I vowed to never buy another UBI game. More people need to stick to their guns instead of letting their principle slide just because they want a game that the company put out.

Why do most of the people still think Bethesda is making this game?


Dunno, I personally think because were on a Bethesda messageboard concerning the game and they just assume its being made by them.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:12 am

No matter how you look at it, Bethesda poorly timed this exclusivity announcement. The way they released this PR announcement is very suspicious and a slap in the face of an already seething fanbase. It is FO3 DLC all over again. This already has spread like wildfire across the gaming boards and once again unnecessary flaming is going on. Bethesda could have waited, but it seems as if Microsoft forced the issue. Way to support the PS3 and PC fanbase once again.

They could of waited until everyone already bought the game and seemed even shadier. Seriously, the fact that they told us before the game came out is admirable, if not a bit too late.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:47 am

There's no reason why they wouldn't release it on all platforms....

I suppose the best reason for the holding off for PC and PS3
MAY BE because they think if those two platforms have to wait
long enough, people might rush the day release of the DLC for
PC and PS3... boosting sales somehow?

This is assuming that Xbox 360 sold more DLC for FO:3 than
PC or PS3
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:59 pm

well all I can say is [censored] you Microsoft.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:44 am

First of all, there's no evidence that this is just Microsoft being a bully. For all we know Microsoft might have paid for this DLC to be developed in the first place, in which case they have some legitimate ownership of it. Second, it's hypocritical to characterize Microsoft as being anti-consumer compared to Sony. Sony is hands-down the most anti-consumer company I've had the displeasure of dealing with in my 34 years on this planet. I can elaborate if you'd like in a PM, but I don't want to go into it in this thread as it's off-topic.

I'm not suggesting Microsoft is bullying, what I'm suggesting is money is changing hands and a platform is being pushed to the front of the content queue, despite the publisher being committed to launching the same title across all platforms. The fault isn't with Microsoft for pushing cash onto the publisher (it's to be expected of them, they hardly have a reputation to defend, they just throw money at every error they make until it goes away, forever cleaning up after their hasty endeavors) the fault is with the publisher for accepting and putting a certain platform first.

It's the same title, from the same developer, attracting the same consumer and fanbase - the only thing seperating the consumers is the platform, if they want a certain type of consumer then they should favour one platform and disregard the others altogether. If they choose to commit to all platforms, then they should support all platforms equally. It's just good business, except when a big hitting corporation bankrolls you to make delaying or otherwise ignoring support for other platforms not hurt, but pay in the long run. "What's the harm? We give you X amount to compensate you, we get the exclusive, then you release it later and make whatever profit you might have made had you been genuinely committed to every platform and released the content at the same time across all platforms. This way at least, there's a chance we can win some people over to our console. *sneer*" lol Consumers are being screwed and the publishers reputation gets dirty. Heh ha.

If we commit to all platforms, we are to support them all equally. <--- "New mantra!" :laugh:
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:54 am

They could of waited until everyone already bought the game and seemed even shadier. Seriously, the fact that they told us before the game came out is admirable, if not a bit too late.


Not really. If they had waited until AFTER the game out there would have been serious antitrust and deceptive advertising issues. There probably would have been no actual action taken but they did this at the last moment they could have before a complete firestorm ensued that would have been terrible PR. To look at it that way is essentially saying "well at least they didn't shoot me after they beat me up and left me lying in my own vomit."
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:24 pm

There's no reason why they wouldn't release it on all platforms....

I suppose the best reason for the holding off for PC and PS3
MAY BE because they think if those two platforms have to wait
long enough, people might rush the day release of the DLC for
PC and PS3... boosting sales somehow?

This is assuming that Xbox 360 sold more DLC for FO:3 than
PC or PS3

They sold more on xbox because some people lost intrest with fallout on pc ps3 that they stopped and didn't care for the dlc anymore!
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:28 pm

Not really. If they had waited until AFTER the game out there would have been serious antitrust and deceptive advertising issues.

Yeah, what did I say? Your anology is also flawed, a more appropriate one would be; "Well, at least they told me where they were gonna shoot me and asked me if I would like to leave, before they actually did it."
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:01 pm

They sold more on xbox because people lost intrest with fallout on pc ps3 that they stopped and didn't care for the dlc anymore!

i uh,,,bought all the dlcs for ps3..
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:34 pm

They sold more on xbox because people lost intrest with fallout on pc ps3 that they stopped and didn't care for the dlc anymore!

DLC for FO3 came out at the exact same time on 360 and PC.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:03 pm

They could of waited until everyone already bought the game and seemed even shadier. Seriously, the fact that they told us before the game came out is admirable, if not a bit too late.

I don't know. I'm getting the impression that people think that without the DLC that is still 2 months away they are missing content right now.

If it had been announced in the past that there would be no DLC for New Vegas at all I'm sure it would not have made people think 'hey, this game isn't worth it now anymore, I'm not going to buy it.'.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:25 pm

I don't know. I'm getting the impression that people think that without the DLC that is still 2 months away they are missing content right now.

If it had been announced in the past that there would be no DLC for New Vegas at all I'm sure it would not have made people think 'hey, this game isn't worth it now anymore, I'm not going to buy it.'.

The way people think is mid boggling sometimes.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:29 pm

No, Im saying Bethesda RPGs are more in depth and have more content than other games. Oblivions Alchemy system was more in depth than Mass Effect 2 as a whole.


I'd say most of that depth and content comes at the cost of a lot of quality. The writing is almost always mediocre and a lot of the PC modding community spends an inordinate amount of time creating content that generally amounts to fan-made bug fixes.

Regardless of that entire discussion, even considering "exclusive" content for a specific platform does not strike me as caring very much about their consumer base.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:49 pm

Yeah, what did I say? Your anology is also flawed, a more appropriate one would be; "Well, at least they told me where they were gonna shoot me before they actually did"


Wrong. I paid, in full, for a PC collector's edition. It was shipped TODAY for release date delivery. I will get it in the mail tomorrow, with absolutely no chance of getting it converted to a 360 version by ANY store. My only solution is to bleed my wallet dry and buy a separate 360 version if I value the ltd edition items and still want to take advantage of this. Waiting this long essentially makes it a bait-and-switch.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:39 pm

I'm starting to sense many bugs and glitches in the PS3 version of New Vegas....Theres also lack of support and updates too......
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:31 pm

i uh,,,bought all the dlcs for ps3..

That is why I said some people I never bought the dlc I even forgot about them didn't think they would ever come out for ps3
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:41 am

That is why I said some people I never bought the dlc I even forgot about them didn't think they would ever come out for ps3

huh that svcks.. a coupla of them were actually pretty fun broken steel for one.. the pitt was sick to
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:22 pm

I'd say most of that depth and content comes at the cost of a lot of quality. The writing is almost always mediocre and a lot of the PC modding community spends an inordinate amount of time creating content that generally amounts to fan-made bug fixes.

Regardless of that entire discussion, even considering "exclusive" content for a specific platform does not strike me as caring very much about their consumer base.

Biowares writing is mediocre now as well. Nothing special about DAO or ME2, hell you could even argue that all of Bio's games have the same overall story arc. Plus you don't have Beth double dipping and nickel and diming you like Bio/EA.

Wrong. I paid, in full, for a PC collector's edition. It was shipped TODAY for release date delivery. I will get it in the mail tomorrow, with absolutely no chance of getting it converted to a 360 version by ANY store. My only solution is to bleed my wallet dry and buy a separate 360 version if I value the ltd edition items and still want to take advantage of this. Waiting this long essentially makes it a bait-and-switch.

Return it and get a refund. If you cant then you bought from a stupid company.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:48 pm

i'ts almost gauranteed to be a timed exclusive only. common sense.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:52 pm

huh that svcks.. a coupla of them were actually pretty fun broken steel for one.. the pitt was sick to

Non of my friend even bought the dlcs
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:11 am

Wrong. I paid, in full, for a PC collector's edition. It was shipped TODAY for release date delivery. I will get it in the mail tomorrow, with absolutely no chance of getting it converted to a 360 version by ANY store. My only solution is to bleed my wallet dry and buy a separate 360 version if I value the ltd edition items and still want to take advantage of this. Waiting this long essentially makes it a bait-and-switch.


But we dont know what the exclusive DLC is going to be. It might be something you would never want.

Thats why I am waiting before I buy cause if the DLC is going to be something I really want then I will keep my $50 and put it towards one of my other hobbies. If not well then I will wait for GOTY edition to be released with the PC DLC included for the set price of $50.

Personally I dont think it should bother anyone cause we dont have enough information, sure it svcks that they did this saying the first DLC will be exclusive to Xbox but doesnt matter, some of the DLC released for the pc version of Mafia II was nothing more than the pre order bonuses, this could be the very same thing.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:54 pm

Just a thought for those who are up in arms.Months ago when the questions where asked about DLC the answer was "we have plans".So where in that do you get the idea that any console deserves the DLC.Their plans could of been to do no DLC what so ever.You have not done anything to deserve DLC and neither have 360 players.All you have done for Bethesda and Obsidian is by the vanilla version of the game and you are getting all you deserve.

It just the way the cookie crumbles.
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:35 pm

Wrong. I paid, in full, for a PC collector's edition. It was shipped TODAY for release date delivery. I will get it in the mail tomorrow, with absolutely no chance of getting it converted to a 360 version by ANY store. My only solution is to bleed my wallet dry and buy a separate 360 version if I value the ltd edition items and still want to take advantage of this. Waiting this long essentially makes it a bait-and-switch.



These [censored]s knew damn well what they were doing announcing it the day before.

Everyone's preorders that are release date delivery can't be canceled the day before...TODAY, the day they announce this [censored].

I.E Amazon, GameStop, WalMart, etc., the PS3 and PC owners wouldn't be able to cancel.

I'm returning mine for the PS3 when it comes in from Amazon and the Collector's guide coming with it.

After the debacle with the Fallout 3, I thought I would give you guys another chance being a PS3 owner, fool me once [censored]s!!!
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:11 pm

Why do most of the people still think Bethesda is making this game?

Some people do. Others don't. Bethesda is the publisher, though, and as such is making these types of decisions.

We know Obsidian is making the game, but Beth is pulling the strings and watching over very carefully... In the end, they have the control and final say on things.

In fact, based on the way the Obsidian guys have been responding to questions about DLC it sounds to me like Bethesda is making 100% of the decisions about what gets made and which platform gets it. I don't think Obsidian is even invited to that meeting.

well all I can say is [censored] you Microsoft.

Why are you blaming Microsoft? Microsoft is trying to promote their platform exactly as I'd expect any competitive business to do. Bethesda is the gatekeeper of fairness for their game. They're making the decision.
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