Well, there are two different kinds of attraction. (for me) There is physical attraction and personality attraction. Both of which are complete relative depending on the person. Or in the "Eye of the Beholder" as people say. So, if I am to say "That person is unattractive" I do not mean they a ugly. I mean to me their physical attributes or personality traits don't "click" with me. So, to me on a theoretically front, no one is really ugly because someone out there will find them attractive. It's just odds :shrug:

Edit* Just to clarify. I could look at a female and appreciate her "beauty." But if I got to know her and her personality was lax she wouldn't look beautiful to me anymore. And on the other hand, if I met a female who had a great personality but I didn't quite like her physical traits over time I may become attracted to her and see her as "beautiful" In short, attraction is a complex thing

Looks tend to take a backseat to personality for me. I don't care if someone looks good if they're a (female dog).

I'm going to represent 75% of the male population and say physical apperence is big thing, I'm shallow, I know

I have to agree (not about your bf) - humans have a much more powerful sense of smell than we realize. I have certainly noticed the unique scents of various people I have spent lots of time with, and in fact studies have confirmed that a human can track another human being across a concrete floor by scent alone.

Other studies have shown that women tended to find the smell of sweat more appealing from men with complementary immune systems (men with major histocompatibility complex that was significantly different from the women's MHC) who would be more likely to pass on a more effective immune system to potential children if they were to mate.
http://www.neurofly.com/FYSM109_files/Proc%20Biol%20Sci%201995%20Wedekind.pdf

Well, more of a combination of everything, if I don't feel attracted to them, they're...unnattractive.

That's interesting. Something also interesting is that although I think my roomie is a nice guy, I am not the slightest bit attracted to him and am glad he isn't attracted to me and that he has a girlfriend. I'd hate for him to be attracted to me and have to explain to him that his personal odor makes my stomach heave.

Yes, it's strange how it seems to be operating almost on a subconscious level. I've met a couple of women in the past that I found attractive visually but couldn't quite place my finger on something unappealing about them and later realized that it was their scent. I have also noticed that women of different ethnic backgrounds tend to smell quite different from one another.

The ethnic part fits me to a T. For some reason I find myself very attracted to the smell of a Black man, and not so much others. I don't know why. :shrug:

I can find a girl attractive but not be attracted to them.

If that makes sense.

On a more understandable note i once had a girl tell me i was "Very Ugly"..not because i am physically ugly but because i can be very mean at times.

I can dig what she meant.

you wanna stay away from English libraries then

http://images.tvrage.com/people/9/24700.jpg is unattractive.

If a woman is beautiful but has an absolutely horrible personality then I wouldn't be attracted to them. But I still 'would', if you know what I mean :hubbahubba:

:lol:
Spent many pleasant rainy afternoons sprawled out in the bed, reading ,and sipping Mandarin Orange Spiced tea with him.
I suppose I associate it with a sort of comfort.

The "feeling off" thing I get a lot. Not just with women, but men as well. No matter how they behave, I've met quite a number of people in my short time that I've immediately disliked. What's more, those who I've tried to become friends with have all done things to really regret that decision.



And there are girls that, even though I know they aren't utterly stunning, I can fall head-over-heels for just meeting them. There's definitely of the subconscious than the conscious with attraction.

No. IMO, somebody is unattractive if their personality is unappealing.

Sometimes, unattractive is ugly. Of course, by my standards, ugly is something like a massive physical deformity. A girl with a cleft lip wouldn't be ugly to me.

Unattractive can also mean annoying or mean. By far, that's what it usually means in conversations with me.

I agree with you. I'm older, so that may make a difference to some degree, but when I think of unattractive, i think of behavior and mannerisms, not the way people look.

I do this alot (not the following a scent on concrete part though). I often get in the car and can smell who has been sitting in the seat before me.

Nope. I base my ideals of "attractiveness" not only on physical appearances, but also on content of character. You could take a super-model that we all could agree was physically attractive, and if she's was an absolute [censored], I'd say she was unattractive. This also works conversely, if a person was rated on the physical scale to say, a cave troll, but was a person of exceptional character. I would however, make the distinction in conversation by saying said person had an attractive personality.

I agree with the both of them. Beautiful people wether it's a female or male can be some of the ugliest on Earth (there might be some folks that are good natured but it's a small group), then there are ugly people that are just as bad on the outside (not even a bag or being blind helps) as they are on the inside. People are people and beauty is in the eye of the beholder---and I don't mean the eye creatures from Dungeons & Dragons.

Agreed. I instantly think of physically unattractive

SPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE

But yeah, what he said. Minus not speaking English, obviously.

This pretty much

I use "pretty" to refer to even-featured, classic beauty. "Attractive" usually implies someone who is not necessarily pretty but has something about them that is appealing.

The difference would be that http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/724/251724.jpg was always pretty without being attractive (too fake), whereas http://ukesanity.org/BIOS/illeana-sm.JPG was the go-to girl in Hollywood when they wanted someone attractive who wasn't classically pretty. "Attractive" is like being "Hollywood Ugly" - the type who gets cast as the Plain Jane best friend who gets the guy in the end.

I'd say http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/ChristianBaleJun09.jpg/220px-ChristianBaleJun09.jpg is an example of an actor who is attractive without being good-looking, though I don't actually fancy him. I can certainly see why someone else would, though. The "opposite" would be http://topnews.in/light/files/ben-affleck11.jpg, who is the epitome of chisel-jawed classic male beauty, but perhaps the reason his career has stalled is that there's something faintly off-putting about him.

Attractiveness to me is a combination of good looks with intelligence, humour, talent, warmth, kindness and charm. The more of those things you have, the more attractive you become, and if any of those things are missing, the less attractive you are. So if you have everything except the good looks you can still be fairly attractive, but if you only have the good looks and none of the rest, you cannot possibly be attractive.

EPIC BUMP.

I think I already posted in this thread, but if someone said unattractive I'd assume they meant physically, until they mentioned otherwise.

When I was at university I was seeing a girl who was pretty classically attractive. When she asked me to show her how to cook pasta she became pretty classically unattractive.

Of course that doesn't mean I fancy someone I'm not attracted to even if she's the nicest girl in the world. I could never truly fancy a girl who doesn't seem 1) smart and 2) fun. When people ask me what celebrities I fancy I can barely ever think of any, besides Rachel Riley (the blonde off Countdown, unbelievable) and Gillian Anderson (circa X-Files series 3), because most celebrities come across as idiots, pretentious or irritating. Being pretty is handy for an initial attraction but to find someone beautiful you've got to be attracted to their personality too.