Ebony sword - Hardly any blade?

Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:24 am

At least in Morrowind it made sense. In Skyrim it doesn't and wreaks of anime fanboyism on the part of one or two of the weapons designers. What does Eorland Greymane know of curved swords? What do you beyond a couple blades katanas that you can't craft anyway?
weaboos :yuck:
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:18 am

At least in Morrowind it made sense. In Skyrim it doesn't and wreaks of anime fanboyism on the part of one or two of the weapons designers. What does Eorland Greymane know of curved swords? What do you beyond a couple blades katanas that you can't craft anyway?
Well, to be fair: In the Art Book to Skyrim it is said, and I quote: !We understand how valuable weapons are to the player, so we focused on each weapon set to emphasize their importance. In Skyrim we tied each set of weapons to a race in order to show a unique culture in how they were made. Most weapons are made by Nords, so we wanted to make it obvious when you come across ansetnthat isn' nordic. For example, the ebony weapon set is made by Dark Elves..."
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:02 am

At least in Morrowind it made sense. In Skyrim it doesn't and wreaks of anime fanboyism on the part of one or two of the weapons designers. What does Eorland Greymane know of curved swords? What do you beyond a couple blades katanas that you can't craft anyway?
Why do you like western weapons but not eastern? Guess what, Nirn isn't either. It should have both for balance.

And to everyone else, I think ebony has the best heavy armor design, and I like all the ebony weapons exept the dagger. It looks like a butter knife.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:49 pm

Don't say stupid things, you're xenophobia is showing. Appreciating Japanese culture, including their military styles, armor, and blades. Is not bad in anway, I'd even argue that it's a good thing. It adds variety, and additional weaponry into it.

Neverwinter Knights had blades from other cultures. Dark Souls has blades from other cultures(Yes it is a japanese game, but still), and TES has it as well.

Wow you're mixing two vastly different settings. Faerun has mages everywhere, who can teleport and send magical messages. Information can be shared easily. Faerun is the highest of fantasies, where just about everyone you meet is nearly god.

He's supposed to be an exceptional smith. What kind of blacksmith wouldn't learn about other weapons, and include them to his/her craft?
There is no internet in Tamriel. The blades have been nearly extinct for 200 years. When
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Delphine introduces herself you have the option to say "who are the blades" to which she replies, "Exactly - no one even remembers us anymore."
Not to mention everyone in Skyrim is shocked by Curved. Swords.

Your argument is based on the idea that information travels well. The developers have put in tons of plot devices to clearly show it doesn't.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:52 am

yeah, honestly the katana is more than little 'out of place' in this particular game. I mean, if we're going to have a katana running amuck, might as well make a few 'dragonball z' dragons running around... which I'm glad they don't. silly. All the same, having different style blades is okay I suppose. But really- the ebony swords don't look asian to me.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:40 pm

No. I like it. They've been in TES since forever. Deal with it.

I mean in Morrowind we had Tanto's, Wakizashi's, and Dai-Katana's. I like "Japanese" blades in my TES, and they're gonna stay.

Don't like it? Mod it out.
Ebony swords in Morrowind weren't curved ones. In Morrowind it was made very well that we had several different curved blades but we still had decent swords made with the same material. Having curved ones in the game shouldn't make you to have a lack of western style swords.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:43 am

weaboos :yuck:

Right because anyone that appreciates a culture that isn't American is a Weaboo.

Wow you're mixing two vastly different settings. Faerun has mages everywhere, who can teleport and send magical messages. Information can be shared easily.

You do know Mages in TES can Teleport as well right? Mark, and Recall? The teleporters in the mages guild(Morrowind).

There is no internet in Tamriel. The blades have been enarly extinct for 200 years. When
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Delphine introduces herself you have the option to say "who are the blades" to which she replies, "Exactly - no one even remembers us anymore."
Not to mention everyone in Skyrim is shocked by Curved. Swords.

Your argument is based on the idea that information travels well. The developers have put in tons of plot devices to clearly show it doesn't.

How did people learn things before the internet? Let me see..

Word of mouth..

BOOKS.

Ebony swords in Morrowind weren't curved ones. In Morrowind it was made very well that we had several different curved blades but we still had decent swords made with the same material. Having curved ones in the game shouldn't make you to have a lack of western style swords.

Dude what? Lack in "western" swords?

We have..

Iron Blades.

Steel Blades.

Dwemer Blades.

Elven Blades.

Glass Blades.

Those Ancient Nord Blades

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The only "foreign" looking blades we have(I assume anything that has even a slight curve to it).

Scimitars

Ebony Blades.

Katanas.

Oh noes! The JRPG's are totally taking over my Elderscrolls! I'm totally gonna make a huge deal out of this!

Bah..
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:50 pm

Ebony swords in Morrowind weren't curved ones. In Morrowind it was made very well that we had several different curved blades but we still had decent swords made with the same material. Having curved ones in the game shouldn't make you to have a lack of western style swords.

I agree with this. I wouldn't be the slightest bit bothered if we could choose. Choice is one thing - lack of choice is entirely another deal.


You do know Mages in TES can Teleport as well right? Mark, and Recall? The teleporters in the mages guild(Morrowind).
And they haven't been able to since. Well, besides the psijic order anyway.



How did people learn things before the internet? Let me see..

Word of mouth..

BOOKS.

Both of these things need to travel and I haven't seen any books about katanas in the Elder Scrolls, nor have I heard blacksmiths saying "This is how you make a katana." In England curved swords were vastly different and came out years after they first traveled to Asia to establish the silk road. Eorland Greymane doesn't travel. His family is as old as Whiterun. The guards of Whiterun clearly don't know about Curved. Swords. until the redguard mercenaries arrive. This lends to that Eorland has never created them. Therefore, he doesn't know about them.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:21 am

Don't say stupid things, your xenophobia is showing. Appreciating Japanese culture, including their military styles, armor, and blades. Is not bad in anway, I'd even argue that it's a good thing. It adds variety, and additional weaponry for those who appreciate it.

In your defense, I do enjoy ancient Japanese culture and millitary.

In his defense, I do 'not' enjoy Manga and anime. Bethesda has done decently so far at making this not happen, but I still cringe whenever I see a mod add something like it.
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Wow you're mixing two vastly different settings. Faerun has mages everywhere, who can teleport and send magical messages. Information can be shared easily. Faerun is the highest of fantasies, where just about everyone you meet is nearly god.

There is no internet in Tamriel. The blades have been nearly extinct for 200 years. When
Spoiler
Delphine introduces herself you have the option to say "who are the blades" to which she replies, "Exactly - no one even remembers us anymore."
Not to mention everyone in Skyrim is shocked by Curved. Swords.

Your argument is based on the idea that information travels well. The developers have put in tons of plot devices to clearly show it doesn't.

The scimitar is curved and used by red guard orcs use curves but it's a game !&@? Happens for no reason all the time
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:02 am

Pretty much hate all of the vanilla weapons aside from the daedric artifacts and steel/iron stuff. They're bulky and scream "cool factor" as opposed to being practical.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:31 am

Pretty much hate all of the vanilla weapons aside from the daedric artifacts and steel/iron stuff. They're bulky and scream "cool factor" as opposed to being practical.
Weapons CAN look visually appealing and have a practical implementation you know.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:57 am

The Ebony blade has always been Katana-esque. Katanas are an Akiviri blade in TES, when the Akiviri took over Cyrodiil for a bit and also when they invaded Morrowind later, other cultures adopted the blade-style. I don't see what the problem with them existing is. o_O
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:53 pm

The Ebony blade has always been Katana-esque. Katanas are an Akiviri blade in TES, when the Akiviri took over Cyrodiil for a bit and also when they invaded Morrowind later, other cultures adopted the blade-style. I don't see what the problem with them existing is. o_O
http://www.tobias-nase.com/images/oblivion/renders/Weapons/Ebony/LongSword.png

oh whoops, you meant the daedric artifact. My bad.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:24 am

The Ebony blade has always been Katana-esque. Katanas are an Akiviri blade in TES, when the Akiviri took over Cyrodiil for a bit and also when they invaded Morrowind later, other cultures adopted the blade-style. I don't see what the problem with them existing is. o_O
There isn't, people just don't want things they don't like in "their" games, even if someone else DOES like it.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:26 pm

Weapons CAN look visually appealing and have a practical implementation you know.

Yup, some of the more popular weapon mods pretty much have that down pat.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:35 pm

Actually I love the Ebony Sword...one of my favorites.

In fact I find the Ebony armor fantastic (apart from the ugly helm) and the majority of the weapons as well.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:08 pm

http://www.tobias-nase.com/images/oblivion/renders/Weapons/Ebony/LongSword.png

oh whoops, you meant the daedric artifact. My bad.

Oh, sorry, didn't realise you didn't :biggrin:

Erm, in Skyrim it doesn't scream Katana at me, it more screams "Elongated Dagger", but you are right it is different to both previous entries (Daggerfall doesn't count, all it's weapons were recolours)
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:52 pm

Dude what? Lack in "western" swords?

We have..

Iron Blades.

Steel Blades.

Dwemer Blades.

Elven Blades.

Glass Blades.

Those Ancient Nord Blades

-------------------------------------------------------

The only "foreign" looking blades we have(I assume anything that has even a slight curve to it).

Scimitars

Ebony Blades.

Katanas.

Oh noes! The JRPG's are totally taking over my Elderscrolls! I'm totally gonna make a huge deal out of this!

Bah..
With the lack I meant that we don't have them available in all material types - I wasn't saying we don't have them in the game. When I find ebony sword in a chest and it's curved it's ok, but when my Nord smith makes one it shouldn't be curved. I make swords not toothpicks.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:39 am

I agree with this. I wouldn't be the slightest bit bothered if we could choose. Choice is one thing - lack of choice is entirely another deal.

Dude.. What? I honestly don't know what you're complaining about. You have 6 different "western" style blades to choose from. Most of which are Unique weapons.

You do have a choice.



And they haven't been able to since. Well, besides the psijic order anyway.

And you know that how? Removal of certain game mechanics doesn't necessarily mean removal of Lore. Unless they explicitly said otherwise.


Both of these things need to travel and I haven't seen any books about katanas in the Elder Scrolls, nor have I heard blacksmiths saying "This is how you make a katana." In England curved swords were vastly different and came out years after they first traveled to Asia to establish the silk road. Eorland Greymane doesn't travel. His family is as old as Whiterun. The guards of Whiterun clearly don't know about Curved. Swords. until the redguard mercenaries arrive. This lends to that Eorland has never created them. Therefore, he doesn't know about them.

You have no imagination.. Eorland is an old man in the Skyrim game. There is no reason that he wouldn't travel, and learn about different weapons, and armor in his youth.

And just because the books that we have available to us(the player) in the games doesn't mean those are the only books in the "world".

That makes absolutely no sense.

There isn't, people just don't want things they don't like in "their" games, even if someone else DOES like it.

Exactly this. Its amazing how petty some people can be.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:49 am

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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:54 am

not a big fan either but it makes thing different i dont mind being attacked by them but im really waiting for dawnguard now that there adding dragon bone weapons
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:41 pm

With the lack I meant that we don't have them available in all material types - I wasn't saying we don't have them in the game. When I find ebony sword in a chest and it's curved it's ok, but when my Nord smith makes one it shouldn't be curved. I make swords not toothpicks.

Then get a mod.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:36 am

That sword is closer to Arabian then Japanese. If you've ever actually seen a katana they are quite slender, not huge fat gaudy weapons like the ebony sword. Now the ebony great sword does he remind me of a nodachi but again it's still way to fat. The only honest Japanese style blade is the Blades Katana.

For me by far the ugliest are the Glass the swords/daggers not the entire thing just the tips they look like crap in my opinion.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:45 pm

For me by far the ugliest are the Glass the swords/daggers not the entire thing just the tips they look like crap in my opinion.

Yeah. The Glass weapons, and Elven blades are pretty hideous.
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