Evidence of Mr. House's Lasers

Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:06 am

The problem with your want is that the ghouls who witnessed it are either feral or outside of the games range. But to fill you and Doom in best I can. Before the war, the Lucky 38 was the biggest name in Las Vegas, according to Raul 'that place was a legend before the War.'. So it was a very famous casino, somewhere between 2062 (when House predicted a War inevitable within 15 years) and 2077, House purchased the casino, according Beautrice, the ghoul at the Mormon Fort, she stated House seemed charming in his interviews, and a Captain of Industry, until he became a recluse, either making last minute preperations, or having been in the life support pod by then. Either way, when the bombs began to fall House took action, disarming and or firing at the bombs falling from orbit.

However, your firm proof is that Vegas was spared of the atomic bombs, the damage to Vegas was due to 200 years of societal collapse and lawlessness. I really don't understand why you would believe the Chinese spared Vegas or anything else. Between America and China, it was an all out slugging match. They wouldn't spare Vegas on any grounds that I could think of.


Since when is a first hand account from someone who viewed the lasers in action the only thing you call proof? I wanna hear more about them from House. I wanna know where they are, how he built them, if they're still active. Seriously, stop acting like House and Raul's stories make up for the whole saving of Vegas. Right now it's just a fairy tale.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:51 am

Nah, it'd be to noticable in Pre-War Vegas that House demolished and rebuilt it to his own needs. I'm sure House used some of the same kind of people who built CoG bunkers and etc.

Personally, I think House retrofitted the Lucky 38 to his needs really. It's a shame House didn't get the Platinum Chip in the beginning, I bet Vegas would be a Pre-War region if House had gotten it.


No no, I don't even mean demolition and rebuilding. I mean wasn't 'there' till house built it? I'm not sure if there is any documentation as to when the Lucky 38 was built or even when House purchased it, if he did? Both of these things would prove/disprove.
There are quite a few anomalies with the L38 though ie the impossible elevator to his hibernation chamber. So wondering how he built the giant underground areas without destabilising the structure is sort of a moot point lol

I guess either way the L38 still stands as probably the most important building in the state. I for one hope House's ending becomes canon, with the reactor powered up and the defences upgraded (possibly including the defensive lasers) House becomes a 'major' player in the FO mythology.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:45 am

Since when is a first hand account from someone who viewed the lasers in action the only thing you call proof? I wanna hear more about them from House. I wanna know where they are, how he built them, if they're still active. Seriously, stop acting like House and Raul's stories make up for the whole saving of Vegas. Right now it's just a fairy tale.


I don't really see the problem?? There are two sources of primary evidence. House being the type that is as cold, logical and honest as a machine.. Also there are no contricting stories to actually make you doubt these 'facts'?
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:08 am

Since when is a first hand account from someone who viewed the lasers in action the only thing you call proof? I wanna hear more about them from House. I wanna know where they are, how he built them, if they're still active. Seriously, stop acting like House and Raul's stories make up for the whole saving of Vegas. Right now it's just a fairy tale.

I'm not saying that to rely on word of mouth is the only proof. Look at Vegas, it's still standing largely untouched. Three people can conclude House saved Vegas with his lasers. Based on pictures of the Lucky 38 on the artwork, the rooftop of the Lucky 38. How he built them, considering he founded a multi-billion dollar robotics corporation, I strongly doubt he wouldn't have the know how to either build them himself or oversee it's design and construction. Considering he says 'the strain of defending Las Vegas nearly caused the Lucky 38's reactor to meltdown...' I'd say yes and know. If you side with House all the way to All or Nothing, then they will become active, since one of the missions requires you to go to El Dorado substation where he can use a large jolt of electricity to restart it's reactor.

Also, people's stories are fairy tales because you want proof that's already presented by the game world around you? How can we know world war two happened? It's only in books and pictures. It's just fair tales. medieval days never happened, those are just fairy tales. :shrug:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:18 am

I'm not saying that to rely on word of mouth is the only proof. Look at Vegas, it's still standing largely untouched. Three people can conclude House saved Vegas with his lasers. Based on pictures of the Lucky 38 on the artwork, the rooftop of the Lucky 38. How he built them, considering he founded a multi-billion dollar robotics corporation, I strongly doubt he wouldn't have the know how to either build them himself or oversee it's design and construction. Considering he says 'the strain of defending Las Vegas nearly caused the Lucky 38's reactor to meltdown...' I'd say yes and know. If you side with House all the way to All or Nothing, then they will become active, since one of the missions requires you to go to El Dorado substation where he can use a large jolt of electricity to restart it's reactor.

Also, people's stories are fairy tales because you want proof that's already presented by the game world around you? How can we know world war two happened? It's only in books and pictures. It's just fair tales. medieval days never happened, those are just fairy tales. :shrug:


Vegas exists. Doesn't mean the lasers do. Drawings, paintings and film show us that past events happened. If there are none of them, we use artifacts to speculate what happened. 2 stories make no difference without hard evidence.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:14 am

:facepalm:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:36 pm

someone open up the Geck and/or examine the Lucky 38 model and see if there is/was any evidence of flaps or slots or turrets on it
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:41 am

I'll be highly surprised if they put that kind of detail on an area of the strip (which they already segregated for performance issues) that you can't actually ever see?

I could be wrong though...
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:28 am

depends. They put a lot of stuff in during development that never see the light of day. I'll have a looksee :)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:37 am

Sweet, I've always wanted to see what the roof looks like.. I maybe should have bought New Vegas for my pc.. Hindsight is 20/20 though I guess.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:26 am

nah, nothing on top of the 38 aside from a lighning conductor. infact there is not even a top on it, or only a tiny bit of one. You'll never see it so why bother lol. The penthouse is the top, so no hidden lasers up there.)

but what there is, is a large fenced-off section above/behind Vault 21. It's within the outer Vegas Walls, but blocked off. Just conspicuous piles of rubble, as if someone was covering over something.... I have a feeling when Vault 21 was built, it had a very special optional extras :)

(ok just speculating, but I can't see anywhere in Vegas or the surrounds that references it.)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:33 am

Vegas exists. Doesn't mean the lasers do

Your missing point, Vegas is largely intact, and so is hoverdam. Something had to have stopped the Great War from laying both to ruin. Here's something to consider, Mr. House's company was responsible for building Liberty Prime. That giant robot could fire laser beams from its eyes. The second thing to consider is putting lasers on the roof of the Lucky 38 would have been illegal. House would have to conceal them. Those spheres extending out form the lucky 38 or the antenia on top could fire lasers for all we know.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:18 am

nah, nothing on top of the 38 aside from a lighning conductor. infact there is not even a top on it, or only a tiny bit of one. You'll never see it so why bother lol. The penthouse is the top, so no hidden lasers up there.)

but what there is, is a large fenced-off section above/behind Vault 21. It's within the outer Vegas Walls, but blocked off. Just conspicuous piles of rubble, as if someone was covering over something.... I have a feeling when Vault 21 was built, it had a very special optional extras :)

(ok just speculating, but I can't see anywhere in Vegas or the surrounds that references it.)


Heh, yeah I didn't think they would have actually modelled them on.. This debate is quite frankly just silly. People requiring proof because they don't 'believe' House or Raul... :facepalm:

Maybe if there were some contradicting statements or something, but "No, they're not there because, well, they're not?" Mind boggling..
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:18 am

The lightning conducter is the laser.
Prove me wrong
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:54 am

1. Vegas is still standing, so is Hoover Dam. Both would without doubt be major targets in an all-out war.
2. House made preparations to survive the war in a support chamber in the center of Vegas. He wouldn't do that unless he was certain the nuclear bombs wouldn't hit Vegas directly.
3. Raul isn't a fan of House. He really has no reason whatsoever of making stories like these up. Also, his stories match House's and they haven't even met.

Mr. House used his lasers to shoot down the missiles. Mr. House saved Vegas.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:24 pm

1. Vegas is still standing, so is Hoover Dam. Both would without doubt be major targets in an all-out war.
2. House made preparations to survive the war in a support chamber in the center of Vegas. He wouldn't do that unless he was certain the nuclear bombs wouldn't hit Vegas directly.
3. Raul isn't a fan of House. He really has no reason whatsoever of making stories like these up. Also, his stories match House's and they haven't even met.

Mr. House used his lasers to shoot down the missiles. Mr. House saved Vegas.


Is it even really up for debate? This entire argument is very silly...
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:46 am

My god im seriously facepalming myself IRL when reading Jolipinator arguments, why can't you see logic :facepalm:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:59 pm

Just read though everyones arguments, like we even needed them, Mr House saved Vegas with laser that destroyed the atomic bombs whilst they were still in the atmosphere. Thus saving Vegas from any noticeable damage (bombs that landed around Vegas probably sent debris flying towards there causing the minor damage we see today).
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:02 am

Well, I guess people are just willing to believe anything they're told. If House and Raul said a dragon saved Vegas I'm sure you'd still believe them, just because Vegas is there.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:53 am

Well, I guess people are just willing to believe anything they're told. If House and Raul said a dragon saved Vegas I'm sure you'd still believe them, just because Vegas is there.


Yeah, now you're just being silly. Arguing for arguments sake.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:52 pm

Well, I guess people are just willing to believe anything they're told. If House and Raul said a dragon saved Vegas I'm sure you'd still believe them, just because Vegas is there.


Well yes if dragons existed in fallout sure I would belive it. The fact is vegas is standing, somehow it survived, and if a man capable of saving it said he did that seems plausble sense there is no other explanation. Im betting you weren't alive during world war 2 but you still belive in it cause it's logical :facepalm:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:18 am

Well, I guess people are just willing to believe anything they're told. If House and Raul said a dragon saved Vegas I'm sure you'd still believe them, just because Vegas is there.

Offer an alternate explanation to what House and Raul give or admit your wrong.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:48 am

I can't believe what I'm reading when I see this thread.

"It's not true because only two people in the game say it and I don't believe them. Even though there is no contradicting evidence/statements I simply choose to deny what the developers have decided happened and will come up with ridiculous arguments to defend my rather shaky position."

This is pretty much the top and bottom of it...
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:22 am

Well, I guess people are just willing to believe anything they're told. If House and Raul said a dragon saved Vegas I'm sure you'd still believe them, just because Vegas is there.

*Puts down cup of tea and narrows my monocle eye* Good sir, I believe you are arguing of the man of straw. Cease these shananigans at once!
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:58 am

He's just trolling. It's the same guy who walks into the GECK section of the boards and tries to tell everybody that its no big deal that the GECK is down.
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