Yeah I was actually kinda bummed that most of it was in water.
And I agree that it wasn't very big geographically.
But I really don't think that a lot more was needed to it.

Maybe a couple of more quests for Hayley, Panora(?), Smugglers, Tribals (side-quest), Desmond (side-quest) and Hillfolk.
Wouldn't be too hard right?

Quick pitch: Tribals are stealing Panora's medical wares, Smugglers are after the giant punga thingy, Hayley wants you to find out about his past.
It's not perfect but at least it's something right?

But geographically I don't think it had to be any bigger really.
Could have had a couple of more quests for people and a way for pacifist players to make truce with Smugglers and Hillfolk.

i disagree, once you do the quests in a dlc thats pretty much all there is there isn't a lot of exploring to do basically, a little, an expansion would have more to offer than just a few quests, there would be considerably more quests not to mention the area would be pretty large and have a lot more packed in it, a couple/few towns, settlements and plenty of structures scattered about, building complexes, more like the main part of the game just a different area. dlc are always gonna be small and only offer a few hours of gameplay, the main game "regarding NV" pete hines said will take several hundred hours to fully explore. even in FO3 it took a couple hundred hours at least to explore the entire map including all the buildings, tunnels etc., finding all the special weapons, bobblheads and other collectibles. so an expansion would be a fraction of that experience as opposed to a dlc which isn't gonna have much in it really and only add a few hours of gameplay.

Its a swamp, what did you expect? The Pitt had very little exploration compared to PL.

Expansions.If it adds extra content like the Shivering Isles for Oblivion,I would rather have that than multiple DLCs that don't add enough content other than quests.

If they do DLC then they need to add small cities over the course of the dlc that links them together in someway with the final DLC and make it so that they connect to Either the NCR or Ceasers Legion. Lets say that we get 5 DLCs and each DLC gives us a city and a quest line. But the 5th DLC will not introduce a new city but will link all the cities together; for realism reasons they are probably linked together through trading with each city having something another probably needs.

If they do expansions then I would expect several camps/cities that have been around for a while but would have been inaccessible for one reason or another. But now with explorers, the NCR and Ceasers Legion; the cities that have been living with each other for so long might collapse due to attacks and political reasons.

Something else that might be a cool idea for the last DLC would be to have the B.O.S. be the bad guys for once by offering everyone free water from Project Purity for a while but then they make people either have to work for the B.O.S. or hand over technology. If not then maybe we could see a group of Rebel Enclave whos' city is an Enclave Crawler. or maybe we could have access to a larger B.O.S. base, like the Citadel/Pentagon of California/New Vegas.

I want both. i want little dlcs like mehrunes razor in fallout that are cheap but fun and PL was great as well just wished there was more quest. An expansion like shivering isles would be great also but i don't think obsidian will do one since theyve done said that the game ends when the main quest ends, but if they do then awesome!

That is stupid.
Might as well just look to the players for mods if you want "little DLCs".

Also, way to not pay attention to the poll.
There's only two options.

But if you had to choose, what would you pick?

You can't have both. That's the entire point of the poll.

Who says he/she had to make a post about the poll? Obviously he/she is just stating his/her opinion, so chill.

How is that stupid? ur obviously a PC player bc u forgot console players actually likd mehrunes razor since we cant mod. and i did vote for dlc just because i like how the dlc was done for fo3

I'm quite sure console players can enjoy expansions as much as PC players do.

Ofcourse we do. u missed the point.... I want both... but since i had to vote i voted dlc since the dlc for fo3 were really good plus the small dlcs for oblivion were great too. Plus i dont think theyll do an expansion since when u finish the game its over.

It makes a saves for you right before the end so you can go back to do quests, play DLC/Expansions, etc.

So its very much open for whatever they would like to do, Just because there is a definitive ending doesn't mean they can't do DLC or an Expansion for that matter. :tops:

it takes me a long time to play the main game, because there is a lot to d besides the quests, but in the dlc's there isn't much to do except for the quests, the pitt had some decent exploring so i do take my time a bit with the pitt, but PL didn't have much to do except for the quests, in the base game its fun to go in a building like the capitol building, the roosovelt academy or the chryslus building and set traps for mutans and battle them, or to hunt down enclave or something, there's more to do besides the quests in the base game, its not a matter of rushing through the game, unless you like swimming around in the water or killing ghouls and hillbillies, they weren't even fun enemies to fight, they were just bullet sponges, so PL svcked and they should of put some towns there, they could of made the boardwalk area an actual settlement, after all lady panada is there. it makes no sense she's there, she has a store just for one person to buy stuff, thats stupid, that location needed some people in it for one, and they could of left out the ocean and put in some towns and settlements and put some old factories there, maybe an airport, or some industrial area, didn't you notice, there a ferris wheel and a bank, well there should be sign of civilation at one time, but there's not hardly anything.

point lookout had tons of differend kind of quests to be done. It almost has same amount of quests as fallout 1. Also it had lots of differend kind of treasures, like those holes, that you could dig with shovel and there was some metal boxes that could be opened and looted. Also those deep in the water below buyo`s has some loot to be collected. So theres plenty of things to do.

First off, there were several design faults in the entire game and all DLC's.
Pitt and PL are no different.

And to me it seems that for an unknown reason you just hate PL.
I dunno why, just seems to me like you really really really really hate PL. :huh:

But not everyone had the same playthrough as you y'know.
At this point it just seems like you think your opinion on PL is above others.
It wasn't perfect by a long shot but for a lot of us it wasn't as horrible as it was for you.
You need to accept that.

And again, dude, please hit the enter button at least once or twice.

Why wouldnt Panada be there selling supplies? Didnt you talk to Tobar? He basically tells you he ferrys people from the DC area to Point Lookout, now why would it be so hard to belive that Panada is selling supplies to travelers that are entering and leaving Point Lookout?

Just like Hailey`s hardware, if the boardwalk supply shop is pointless then so is his hardware shop even though he states that he trades with the swampfolk as he put it.

Either way doesnt matter to me, because I only care about the cost of the expansion/dlc. I mean why would I spend $100 for a game and all its DLC`s when I could have put that $100 to one of the guns I want on my list. I would get a hell of alot more use and have a hell of alot more fun with that than with the game. It all comes down to cost vs worth, are the DLC`s thats released worth the cost, ar the expansions worth the cost. That was a major reason why I went and got the GOTY edition for FO3 because it came with all DLC`s at no extra cost compared to spending the same exact price for FO3 non GOTY edition that walmart was still carrying.

As far as the buildings goes, sure point lookout could have used more buildings and a deeper story line to find out what really happened there. I did personally love the quest of the chinese agent, gave us some insite into the "past" but not much. The destoryed homes were pretty much useless seeing as everyone I explored didnt have any noticeable loot or anything to find in the ruins. Black Hall Manor was okay but considering the excellent shape it was in I kinda expected to see a few well preserved prewar books which btw I didnt even find one. Now the plane crash that I stumbled across that was nicely done considering you could get the black box recorder and get the recording. The bank was nice as well, just wished there was an ability to open all those lock boxes even if they had nothing in them. Only thing that was real disapointing was the detention center up north. There just wasnt much to it and I kind of expected more. I mean the only things you had was 6 or so shacks for the detainees and one main building which was offices and a basemant under it which was an autopsy room. Aside from that I felt there should have been more such as more areas for the soldiers that were obviously incharge of the place at one time.

On the part about needeing to see civilization, there is signs of civilization but tobar said its an ancient pleasure town and most of the time pleasure towns are on the small side which relies on their income from outsiders that visit the boardwalk.

But I dont see where it matters, on wiki the other day an article was posted that obsidian is making the DLC and that it will release very shortly after the main game does. For those that would say state my source this is the link here.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Tezzla_Cannon/Obsidian_confirms_they_are_working_on_FNV_DLC

This.

Broken Steel styled expansion pack

Oh god!
Why?

No.

I don't really care what they do as far as new, post-release content.. just make sure it's worth the price tag.

I rather have Point Lookout styled expansions. I want to explore and salvage places.

DLC is utter useless crap that ought to have been in the game to begin with.
Just look at Mass Effect 2 for one among many examples.

Hey, give us two dollars and we'll give you a new gun.

Hey, give us five bucks and we'll give you some new clothes.

DLC can svck it.

Bethesda expansions are the only kind of DLC I pay for, but I don't buy them one at a time either.
I'm probably going to play this game in 2011 or 2012, when it costs $50.00 and you get the actual full game, the way it should have been delivered before all the corporate [censored]s ripped its limbs off and sold them individually.

Stupid corporate [censored]s.

Nah, I'll buy it, but then I'll sell it and buy it again when everything drops.
But I am not pre-ordering. I don't pre-order anything anymore. Nothing is a sure thing and the review sites are so full of BS I can't tell what is going to be good and what svcks balls.

So, every single DLC that isn't an expansion were meant to be in the original game but the game studio decided to exclude it for some reason?
I call bullcrap on your conspiracy sir.