Have Beth forgot their "lore" book? : V

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:20 am

With the DLC adding some interesting things, vampire lords and such, I find myself wondering do Beth follow the lore they set out? Or have they brought so many new people in that they are just making generic fantasy stuff such as vampires turning into bats?

Vampire Lords, where did they come from.
Vampires transforming into bats, just no lol.
Others.

Have Beth lost their lore book?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:53 am

There is already many many threads on this.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:58 am

I recall reading somewhere that none of the original Elder Scrolls lore team remains. If that's true, it explains a lot. Again, not sure though. I suppose I could check the credits for each game...

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:50 am

Vampire Lords may be the same thing as Ancient Vampires in Daggerfall, not that much of a strech.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:07 am

I recall seeing an altar to Molag Bal in the trailer, and according to lore, HE created the Vampires of Tamriel by [censored] and murdering some maiden. I can't recall the name of the book.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:33 am

Vampire Lords may be the same thing as Ancient Vampires in Daggerfall, not that much of a strech.

Then I hope Beth tell us in the DLC, I can except that. However I just feel the vampire lord was made in the game jam and they made a DLC based on reaction, while forgetting the lore. I hope you are right.

what about the bats?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:24 am

Delete please.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:12 pm

Vampire Lords may be the same thing as Ancient Vampires in Daggerfall, not that much of a strech.

Ancient Vampires in Daggerfall are just hooded dudes though, right?

» Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:52 pm

With the DLC adding some interesting things, vampire lords and such, I find myself wondering do Beth follow the lore they set out? Or have they brought so many new people in that they are just making generic fantasy stuff such as vampires turning into bats?

Vampire Lords, where did they come from.
Vampires transforming into bats, just no lol.
Others.

Have Beth lost their lore book?

Well as the maker of the lore they may add new content as they please, don't you think? :tongue:

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:49 am

so the lore weve got now can never be expanded on everything must stay the same....

if bethesda want to add things and they do it well lorewise then why not?

only time will tell...

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:18 am

the volikar, or something like that, were vampires, already in TES lore, I can't remember all the stuff on them but here is a wiki page on it http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Volkihar_Clan

so there is some exisiting lore to back this DLC up.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:47 am

New things are forgetting how to be old. Oh no!

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:52 am

the volikar, or something like that, were vampires, already in TES lore, I can't remember all the stuff on them but here is a wiki page on it http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Volkihar_Clan

so there is some exisiting lore to back this DLC up.

quick question, is it confirmed its volkihar in dawnguard? ive been away for a few days....

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:35 am

quick question, is it confirmed its volkihar in dawnguard? ive been away for a few days....

I think the castle is called Volkihar or something.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:52 am

Hoe sbout you WAIT UNTIL IT COMES OUT? God, like EVERYTHING will be explained in a three minute trailer.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:36 pm

There is already many many threads on this.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:44 am

With the DLC adding some interesting things, vampire lords and such, I find myself wondering do Beth follow the lore they set out? Or have they brought so many new people in that they are just making generic fantasy stuff such as vampires turning into bats?

Vampire Lords, where did they come from.
Vampires transforming into bats, just no lol.
Others.

Have Beth lost their lore book?

The ingame book called http://www.imperial-library.info/content/immortal-blood says that there are many different vampires out there, so introducing vampire lords isn't going against the lore.

EDIT: Yaay, 200 posts. Now when do I get the star thingy?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:12 am

Hoe sbout you WAIT UNTIL IT COMES OUT? God, like EVERYTHING will be explained in a three minute trailer.

Three minutes is supposed to explain everything! Including the meaning of our very lives. Don't say three minutes of a trailer means nothing, because it does.

[since sarcasm isn't detected through text, I was being sarcastic]

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:03 am

The ingame book called http://www.imperial-library.info/content/immortal-blood says that there are many different vampires out there, so introducing vampire lords isn't going against the lore.

EDIT: Yaay, 200 posts. Now when do I get the star thingy?

exactly. i read somewhere theres over 100 types of vampire in tamriel il check uesp to provide a link but just because we havent seen it yet doesnt mean it cant exist...

just wait am sure all will be explained.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:42 am

I don't really see it as lore breaking.....I mean why can't there be different types of vampires. Maybe Molag Bal gave these vampires special powers or something. It could be explained in many different ways....
I will say I am a little disappointed it is about vampires =/

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:42 am

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Vampires_of_the_Iliac_Bay

immortal blood covers a small fraction of the different vampires we know about. if were to go by the book in the link then whos to say there is or isnt a strain of vampireism that can turn into vampire lords. or vampires having a connection with bats.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:05 am

Very well, the vampire lord is being explained by lack of information. I can just about see that, Beths artistic view and all. However how are the bats explained? And if they can be, how about they are just a little bit too generic fantasy? I mean one of the very good points of TES is the unique lore and world. If it falls in line with movies and other generic fantasy games then the things that make TES great could be shallowed out for the next game.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:57 am

The ingame book called http://www.imperial-library.info/content/immortal-blood says that there are many different vampires out there, so introducing vampire lords isn't going against the lore.

EDIT: Yaay, 200 posts. Now when do I get the star thingy? :tongue:

I don't think Adepts get a star. Sorry, you need another 200 posts to become a Curate and get one. 30,000 posts and you can become an Archpatriarch. I don't think I've ever seen one though. Only a Patriarch(10,000 posts)

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:06 am

Very well, the vampire lord is being explained by lack of information. I can just about see that, Beths artistic view and all. However how are the bats explained? And if they can be, how about they are just a little bit too generic fantasy? I mean one of the very good points of TES is the unique lore and world. If it falls in line with movies and other generic fantasy games then the things that make TES great could be shallowed out for the next game.

The book Frost Dragon linked to is from a game you could call "generic". The Elder Scrolls II Daggerfall. We will get the information when Dawnguard is finished and we play it.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:50 am

They haven't forgotten anything, they just decided to change it. I for one love when what the inhabitants of Tamriel thought to be true turns out to be utterly wrong.