Mr. House and the Big Empty

Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:08 am

That would be awesome!
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:39 pm

Yes that's what I thought the first time I completed Dead Money. I ended my second DM playthrough today, and he talked about it during the conversation inside the Sierra Madre's Vault. He doesn't go into detail, he briefly mentions it. The devs put it in on purpose nonetheless.


Also: I'm not sure the BoS and the Enclave would have been able to get inside the facility. Elijah mentioned it's extremely dangerous and he almost didn't make it out alive. We only know about Elijah, Christine and presumably Ulysses gaining access to the Big Empty, and they're all pretty tough survivalists. I'm not sure the Brotherhood or the Enclave would risk losing a lot of men getting into a facility with unknown content.


The Enclave was an active group before the bombs fell, they were the proverbial "string puller" that controlled the American government, so its hard to think they couldnt have known about it before the war. Been tied up in it or something. Afterwards, when the bombs had fallen it might not have been a big concern for them, they could have forgotten about it, etc. But they (as in the pre-enclave people who eventually became the enclave) likely were involved with it.

Also, christine is not really that tough, at least in my opinion, she was a brotherhood scribe, she wasnt even a warrior. Both her and elijah were once members of the brotherhood, one is 70 years old and the other is a women, so maybe it isnt that hard to get in.

The enclave (who may at this point be destroyed anyway, from their defeat in the west and east) would have ahd the ability to get in before the events of fallout 2 when they were for all pratical purposes wiped out in the west (this is based off of avaliable information).
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:47 pm

Yeah, at first I figured he had killed himself after reading the terminals. there are no skeletons in there though, or at least none that I can recall. Certainly not in his office anyway. HH tools did make the securitrons though, you can see this on closer inspection of them. 'Not at home' always calls them 'his' securitrons.. Maybe he wasn't the original designer or Anthony has some kind of programmers back door into HH products? Who knows..


its alluded to that Mr. House bought out H&H tools, which is the overall company. Perhaps the factory continued to be owned by anthony while the actual company was owned by house.

Also, Crandon, a guard in westside, says the robots clean out any bodies (such as scavengers) so that might be why anthonys body is not in the building.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:26 am

Yeah, at first I figured he had killed himself after reading the terminals. there are no skeletons in there though, or at least none that I can recall. Certainly not in his office anyway. HH tools did make the securitrons though, you can see this on closer inspection of them. 'Not at home' always calls them 'his' securitrons.. Maybe he wasn't the original designer or Anthony has some kind of programmers back door into HH products? Who knows..

Actually, only the Television plating is made by HH tools, the robots themselves are of Robert House's design, which can be obviously deduced since he was the founder of RobCo and was president of the company for over 30-40 years. Anthony House was Robert House's older half brother who robbed him of his inheritance, HH Tools being part of that inheritence.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:06 am

Actually, only the Television plating is made by HH tools, the robots themselves are of Robert House's design, which can be obviously deduced since he was the founder of RobCo and was president of the company for over 30-40 years. Anthony House was Robert House's older half brother who robbed him of his inheritance, HH Tools being part of that inheritence.


O.o HH tools only made the television plating? Thats, an interesting theory.. Can't really see them having a H&H logo on them if that was the case, but I guess you never know..
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:43 pm

Maybe HHtools just made televisions? When House came to design the securitons, doesn't make sense re-inventing the wheel, he could just order in a thousand H&H Televisions to use in their construction (maybe via 3rd party or somesuch). Then later, House realised it would be better to just OWN the company that made them, which is when he started his takeover bid.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:10 pm

I thought Radiation King were the big t.v. makers in FO? I guess its possible but I doubt it. I mean, they're called H&H tools.. Not H&H televisions right? I guess the H&H logo on the Securitrons could be a 'red herring' it doesn't seem to fit with the established sequence of events with Anthony and Robert regarding H&H tools. Just thought it was worth mentioning..
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Post » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:42 pm

Actually, did Robco actually 'take-over' H&H tools? I know they started proceedings for a hostile takeover, but, didn't the great war bring all these things to an end? Hence the factory still being under the control of Anthony house when you go inside?
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:12 am

Also, christine is not really that tough, at least in my opinion, she was a brotherhood scribe, she wasnt even a warrior. Both her and elijah were once members of the brotherhood, one is 70 years old and the other is a women, so maybe it isnt that hard to get in.

They are smart but. If the defences are all hooked up to computers they could of hacked their way through.....

Ghost suit. That is what i want. The ranger helmet and assasin outfit look good but not as good as those suit's.
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Post » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:34 pm

My guess is that the "Big Empty" may be some how connected to "http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Boulder_Dome" from Van Buren.
Hazmat suits, Hibernation chambers besides both of them are scientific research facilities, it all makes sense at least to me...

Sorry for my crappy English.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:41 am

the big empty is probably Mt. Big or so i have read
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:08 am

Um, that giant robot IS Liberty Prime.

And he was built at the Pentagon, in all likelihood. Can you imagine the CIA trying to covertly smuggle a giant robot halfway across the country? It'd never work.

On the other hand, how in the heck would House get to the Pentagon in the first place, seeing as how reclusive he was?
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:28 am

Um, that giant robot IS Liberty Prime.

And he was built at the Pentagon, in all likelihood. Can you imagine the CIA trying to covertly smuggle a giant robot halfway across the country? It'd never work.

On the other hand, how in the heck would House get to the Pentagon in the first place, seeing as how reclusive he was?



Why would it have to been covertly smuggled? You pop different parts in semi's, have them go at different times, and when they meet up at the Pentagon, they're reassembled. With House's technology, it's likely he could do any sort of necessary set-up through a very secure long distance connection.

Or something.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:34 am

Yes he says it.

List of things he says:

Holograms
Holorifles - Presumeably the technology he used to create it.
Hibernation chambers - Soething probably closely related to Mr. House's bubble technology. :P
Securitrons

Mr. House - Even though I can't believe the Libery Prime being there its possible for him to communicate instructions via videoscreen.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:04 am

Apparently, and this is only speculation, Anthony House is running the Big empty. Maybe he stole some of Roberts creations, I dunno.

Very plausible
Athony could have, in revenge, taken over the facility
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:05 pm

What is with this obsession with House's brother? He's a footnote.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:38 am

What is with this obsession with House's brother? He's a footnote.


very true, but he makes an interesting character.

Also, would you not say that Ulysses was not even a footnote, only being mentioned once by Nash, and now he's the antagonist of the DLC series.

Also, I'm positive the picture with the robot legs is Liberty Prime. I would imagine it's just a nudge at FO3.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:16 am

I don't think that he mentioned Securitrons at all.

Besides the BoS weren't around before the war and the Enclave was the most powerful organisation in America; if something was going on at the Big Empty then they would find out, hell they had some of the finest - and amoral - scientific minds on thier side so they would probably have been doing the research.

He never said the BoS had control or anything to do with The Big Empty. He was saying that they did not have any type of securitrons.
The Enclave were pretty much the government before the war. Be that as it may, Mr. House was a very rich and powerful man and could have done this easily without alerting the government.
What still bothers me about Mr House though is the vault within NV that he had certain areas sealed off. I doubt it has anything to do with The Big Empty though.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:48 am

Um, that giant robot IS Liberty Prime.

And he was built at the Pentagon, in all likelihood. Can you imagine the CIA trying to covertly smuggle a giant robot halfway across the country? It'd never work.

On the other hand, how in the heck would House get to the Pentagon in the first place, seeing as how reclusive he was?


The giant robot isn't liberty prime.. Go and take a look at a picture of Liberty Prime feet and then compare.. Seeing as Liberty Prime was a joint venture between House's company Robco and General Atomics though, it's quite feasable that house took the Liberty Prime research and created a unique version for himself?
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:07 am

Hey didn't someone say Mr. House owned Robco? For all we know The Big Empty could be a research and development location for Robco. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.. Fingers crossed either way.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:07 am

I think those hibernation chambers will look like those Auto Docs inside the Villa Clinic but have people from before the war inside.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:28 pm

Hey didn't someone say Mr. House owned Robco? For all we know The Big Empty could be a research and development location for Robco. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.. Fingers crossed either way.

Yep, House founded and ran the company for 20-30 years until the War hit.

I don't think The Big Empty is/was RobCo owned though, the desription of the place has an area 51 feel to it (IE highly classified government projects there and etc.)
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:20 am

Yep, House founded and ran the company for 20-30 years until the War hit.

I don't think The Big Empty is/was RobCo owned though, the desription of the place has an area 51 feel to it (IE highly classified government projects there and etc.)


Remember Liberty Prime and that fact that House built and developed the Enclave's Plasma weapons at REPCONN ;)
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:35 am

Remember Liberty Prime and that fact that House built and developed the Enclave's Plasma weapons at REPCONN ;)

True, but theres a difference between military hardware such as weapons, and a place that seems to have been making the proper tools for a rebirth of concentration camps. I mean, exploding collars? Freaky experimenting on brains?

Actually, a thought just occured, what if the base is General Atomics's base? O_o
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:28 am

I don't think he mentioned securitrons maybe he said there where security robots
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