Ideas on what a true Nord is?

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:30 am

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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:39 pm

So in short, any ideas how I can make my character (a woman) into a true Nord, both in armor, weaponry, behavior and things in general?
As far as behavior goes, you should stick with the dull and racist theme that most of the "true nords" seem to have adopted.

Just hate everyone who doesn't look like you from the bottom of your heart and you'll fit right in!
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:42 am

An ignorant self righteous ass.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:18 pm

1. Blindly support Ulfric, despite him being an unwitting puppet of the Thalmor.
2. Kill non-Nords on sight.
3. Drink Nord Mead until you die of alcohol poisoning (if you're a "True Nord", that'll take a while, so keep at it.)
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:08 pm

Why does everybody consider the true Nord way as racist pseudo KKK behavior? Listen to the Graybeards, the Jarls that aren't complete fools (basically none except Ulfric and Baalgruf) and some of the more experienced tows folk. The Nords have much more background story than hating elves and drinking mead. Although the elf hating is a big part considering one elf race did commit a Nord genocide and another one is trying to right now.

I can't remember that so many people painted the dunmer as purely racist idiots, although they were not better in MW than the Nords in Skyrim. And MW was at least peaceful during the game and not in a war.

1. Blindly support Ulfric, despite him being an unwitting puppet of the Thalmor.
2. Kill non-Nords on sight.
3. Drink Nord Mead until you die of alcohol poisoning (if you're a "True Nord", that'll take a while, so keep at it.)
If Ulfric was a puppet of the Thalmor, they surely would prefer his victory over an ongoing civil war.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:11 am

True "Nords" are barbaric, wild, primal, savage, strong, brave, fearless, great at warfare and great at combat and very athletic warriors of Skyrim!
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:11 am


That's the major points you should consider if you want to make a real viking character
Everything he said. And I love your avatar. :hearts:
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:25 am

If Ulfric was a puppet of the Thalmor, they surely would prefer his victory over an ongoing civil war.
I take it you haven't read the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric yet?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:07 am

Why does everybody consider the true Nord way as racist pseudo KKK behavior?
I don't think anybody seriously says they're that bad. Well, wait. They do kind of have that good ol' boy charm that sorta goes hand in hand with a git outta town by sunset type mentality. Stereotypically speaking.

I can't remember that so many people painted the dunmer as purely racist idiots, although they were not better in MW than the Nords in Skyrim. And MW was at least peaceful during the game and not in a war.
Maybe I'm reading my own bias into this, but if I told you about a Dunmer and a Nord with a beer bottle collection and a rare book collection, could you guess which was which? The Dunmer came across as weird, insular, and disdainful. Nords come across as swaggering bullies with more muscle than sense. In college movie terms, elves are nerds and Nords are jocks. Does it really surprise you that a forum full of computer RPG fans are not very sympathetic to the jocks?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:59 am

I take it you haven't read the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric yet?
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I have in fact, and as far as I remember the dossier clearly states that the Stormcloak victory must be avoided in order for he plan to work. Ulfric was captured by the Thalmor, but it seems he got veeery uncooparative as soon as he was back in Windhelm.

I don't think anybody seriously says they're that bad. Well, wait. They do kind of have that good ol' boy charm that sorta goes hand in hand with a git outta town by sunset type mentality. Stereotypically speaking.
I know that, my main Nord is, or at least was, a little bit "no elves in my town" himself. But outside of Windhelm and Solitude even the commoners seem way to "normal" to jump to conclusions this fast.

Maybe I'm reading my own bias into this, but if I told you about a Dunmer and a Nord with a beer bottle collection and a rare book collection, could you guess which was which? The Dunmer came across as weird, insular, and disdainful. Nords come across as swaggering bullies with more muscle than sense. In short, elves are nerds and Nords are jocks. Does it really surprise you that a forum full of computer RPG fans are not very sympathetic to the jocks?
With the whole "Daedra worship to piss Altmer daddy off" and the "special" clothing style I always assumed they were the Scene Kids of Tamriel, honestly. :D If any race in Tamriel is the nerdy one, it's the Dwemer, and even I love myself some Dwemer.

Although I kind of get the dark elf fetish, it's always the same since D&D.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:49 am

I know that, my main Nord is, or at least was, a little bit "no elves in my town" himself. But outside of Windhelm and Solitude even the commoners seem way to "normal" to jump to conclusions this fast.
Oh, totally. A "True Nord" is no different from a "True American" or a "True Egyptian". He or she is likely a completely "normal" person with no particularly outrageous qualities, just getting by day to day. But those wackos out at the fringes ... those are the guys who will point to a common countryman and shout, "You ain't no true Nord!!"

It's no fun to say to the OP, just click Nord, and then make a normal person. We gotta go for one of them wackos!

Seriously, I had a lot of fun poring over the lore and trying to distill the "extreme" version of a few different racial types while coming up with my characters for Skyrim. I particularly enjoy my archconservative Dunmer (who thinks of the Tribunal as a bunch of uppity young glory hounds and insists that Mysticism is still a real school), but my "innocent cannibal" Bosmer, my politically complex Breton and even my stock heroic Redguard are all made more enjoyable by my mindfulness of their racial stereotypes.

With the whole "Daedra worship to piss Altmer daddy off" and the "special" clothing style I always assumed they were the Scene Kids of Tamriel, honestly. :biggrin: If any race in Tamriel is the nerdy one, it's the Dwemer, and even I love myself some Dwemer.
Although I kind of get the dark elf fetish, it's always the same since D&D.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:21 am

Oh, totally. A "True Nord" is no different from a "True American" or a "True Egyptian". He or she is likely a completely "normal" person with no particularly outrageous qualities, just getting by day to day. But those wackos out at the fringes ... those are the guys who will point to a common countryman and shout, "You ain't no true Nord!!"

It's no fun to say to the OP, just click Nord, and then make a normal person. We gotta go for one of them wackos!

Seriously, I had a lot of fun poring over the lore and trying to distill the "extreme" version of a few different racial types while coming up with my characters for Skyrim. I particularly enjoy my archconservative Dunmer (who thinks of the Tribunal as a bunch of uppity young glory hounds and insists that Mysticism is still a real school), but my "innocent cannibal" Bosmer, my politically complex Breton and even my stock heroic Redguard are all made more enjoyable by my mindfulness of their racial stereotypes.
Oh I like my magic loving oldschool Nazi Altmer as much as my Hist tree humping zombie Argonian, it's sometimes really fun to enjoy the extreme. But since I can't really be a "true" something in RL, beeing born, raised and finally living in entirely different countries all together, I at least try to find the "good" extreme in fantasy stories like the TES series. Other than the real world, Tamriel offers real racial differences than every African fellow beeing probably much faster than me in our boring normal world.

It's just that TES almost always offers such a "good" extreme in the games if you pay attention to the lore. "True" Nords are the straight forward guys, Dunmer the philosophical lonely wolf types and Imperials... well Imperials are good at bragging about stuff. Especially in TES it seems that every race can have the good guys on its side, rather than elves are cool, dwarves are funny and humans are rpicks like in so many other RPG worlds.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:35 am

A true nord does not drink milk.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:32 am

For what it's worth, both of my two characters have been Nords. Mostly because that closely resembles what i look like in real life.

My first character sided with the Imperials simply because most of the Stormcloaks reminded me just a tad too much of racist redneck idiots i grew up with.
On my second character, i've been avoiding the whole civil war storyline altogether. So far, i haven't found a need to get involved.

I don't think there is a right way (or wrong way) to play this out. There's only one way and that is *your* way.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:48 am

I take it you haven't read the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric yet?
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We've all read the dossier.

I need to put that in my signature or something.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:19 am

We've all read the dossier.

I need to put that in my signature or something.
I'm going to steal this idea. No wait, I already did. Cheese for everypony!
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:45 pm

Run around in fur armor/bracers/boots (skimpiest you can find, not so much for six appeal as for pure ferocity), with an iron helmet, with an iron shield and war axe of you chosing.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:18 pm

I don't think anybody seriously says they're that bad. Well, wait. They do kind of have that good ol' boy charm that sorta goes hand in hand with a git outta town by sunset type mentality. Stereotypically speaking.


Maybe I'm reading my own bias into this, but if I told you about a Dunmer and a Nord with a beer bottle collection and a rare book collection, could you guess which was which? The Dunmer came across as weird, insular, and disdainful. Nords come across as swaggering bullies with more muscle than sense. In college movie terms, elves are nerds and Nords are jocks. Does it really surprise you that a forum full of computer RPG fans are not very sympathetic to the jocks?

Well, actualy, the High Elves are more akin to snobby intelectuals (and borderline Nazi's) then nerds. And the Dunmer, we are the punk/emo/I hate everbody and everything for some reason black haired beanie wearing kid in the corner.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:08 pm

serious where did this TES vikings resemblence come from , to me they resemble the classical germanic tribes of north and central Europe 3rd to 6 th century) more than they resemble the scandinavian vikings of the 7 th and 11 th century

For me they more like the Goths , franks , allemani or saxons ( and many others), both in culture and society
all the rest of skyrim in style is heavily influenced by the LOTR film ( architecture ) and the game of thrones novels , my opinion

So a true nord can be compared to a Goth warrior of the 3 rd to 5 th century , the kind of warrior that is loyal to his leaders , is a brutal but also smart fighter and recently has converted to christianity so making him very piety aswell
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:41 pm

serious where did this TES vikings resemblence come from , to me they resemble the classical germanic tribes of north and central Europe 3rd to 6 th century) more than they resemble the scandinavian vikings of the 7 th and 11 th century

For me they more like the Goths , franks , allemani or saxons ( and many others), both in culture and society
all the rest of skyrim in style is heavily influenced by the LOTR film ( architecture ) and the game of thrones novels , my opinion

So a true nord can be compared to a Goth warrior of the 3 rd to 5 th century , the kind of warrior that is loyal to his leaders , is a brutal but also smart fighter and recently has converted to christianity so making him very piety aswell
Because most people outside of Europe, with America and Asia beeing very big game markets, think of a guy with make up and black hair if they hear "goth". The whole Nord society is a big mashup of different European cultures from different time periods. The art style of the dungeons is basicly very Celtic while the society resembles the Germans before the Holy Roman Empire.

/e: Before I start a flame ware here: I don't think people outside of Europe are dumb because they sometimes don't know anything about the old tribes and early history of continental Europe. Believe me, almost everybody learned probably more than I did. ;)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:49 am

Because most people outside of Europe, with America and Asia beeing very big game markets, think of a guy with make up and black hair if they hear "goth". The whole Nord society is a big mashup of different European cultures from different time periods. The art style of the dungeons is basicly very Celtic while the society resembles the Germans before the Holy Roman Empire.

/e: Before I start a flame ware here: I don't think people outside of Europe are dumb because they sometimes don't know anything about the old tribes and early history of continental Europe. Believe me, almost everybody learned probably more than I did. :wink:
a very good point i forgot to reamize that alot of players are indeed from outside europe and no i certainly not calling them stupid
Just my pride in European heritage is being hurt each time someone is comparing Nords with ' vikings'

Did you know vikings didn't wore horns on their helmets , it is just a 19 th century victorian fantasy
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:17 pm

a very good point i forgot to reamize that alot of players are indeed from outside europe and no i certainly not calling them stupid
Just my pride in European heritage is being hurt each time someone is comparing Nords with ' vikings'
That's pretty normal, everyone acts surprised when they realize that not everybody has the same historical background, as a European you should know that when you're talking to people from North America. Just think of Japan for a comparison, does the normal European know that they had a history before the whole feudal Sumurai thing?

But be grateful for the viking comparison, at least you're not always automatically the communist invader for everybody. :D

Did you know vikings didn't wore horns on their helmets , it is just a 19 th century victorian fantasy
It's better to tell everyone that horned devils pillaged your village, not people who were hungry because they lived on the less fertile part of the continent. ;)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:00 am

A true nord does not drink milk.

Milk was the most important beverage for vikings since it had a lot of fat and nutrients needed to survive the hard winters. Milk, chees, butter was very important aspects of their diet. Even today scandinavians are generally better at "digesting" dairy products than ppl native to other parts of the world who often tend to feel a bit queasy after (for example) drinking to much milk. And we drink a lot more milk than they do in other countries. Some only use milk for cooking, we drink it for prettys much every meal. This comes from the fact that dairy products was the primary source (and still are a big part) of the scandinavian diet.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:21 pm

If Ulfric was a puppet of the Thalmor, they surely would prefer his victory over an ongoing civil war.
That may be so, but they also stated that a Stormcloak victory is still preferable to an Imperial victory.
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