Ideas on what a true Nord is?

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:12 am

Okay, so I'm trying to make my character a TRUE Nord, much to resemble the Vikings.

But I could use some help as to what you guys consider qualities of a true Nord.
Like using only Nord weapons, drinking beer and stuff like that.

So in short, any ideas how I can make my character (a woman) into a true Nord, both in armor, weaponry, behavior and things in general?

Thanks :)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:19 am

2 handed weapons, heavy Armor. Hair should be Blonde, Wear Iron armor similar to what the dovakiin wears and you're set. As a true nord you should be very conservative and somewhat racist to other races. Obviously join the Stormcloaks. You should also worship Talos (wear the amulet)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:03 am

Well, find some true Nordic armor. Since Skyrim is (logically) Nord-themed, you can choose between many very fitting sets.
You can settle for Iron, Steel, Plate, Scaled, Ancient Nord, and more. The latter requires the Companions questline. (which I also recommend) Same for weapons. Steel is your thing.
You might want to join the Stormcloaks, fight for a free Skyrim and all that. Limit your magic to Shouts only, and wear an Amulet of Talos to both reduce shout recharging time and show off your "nordyness". Be sure to carry some true Nord Mead to keep you warm in the cold. Clear out as many dungeons to cleanse them of Draugr to finally put your ancestors to peace.

Those are just little things I thought of in a few minutes. There's surely much more you will find out about your character (backstory if you intend to do one, behavior, limitations), helping you to develop her even more.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:01 pm

Alcoholic, loud, hairy.
"I suppose you're looking for a tavern. I'm sure I can't help you" as guards kept saying to my Nord in MW.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:11 pm

My Nord character http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/subrosa_florens/Skyrim/Skyrim103.jpg (the name means "makes the ravens sing") is someone along the lines of what you are shooting for. She is a Nord from Dawnstar, who is returning home from years spent in the Imperial army. She prefers iron and steel that she has made with her own hands, and spent most of her game wearing those. She only just recently upgraded to a set of orcish armor that she forged, because the steel was just not cutting it anymore. The war axe is her preferred weapon, and probably will remain so. The only spell she uses is the starting healing spell. She carries a bow to deal with those pesky foes who refuse to close the distance, and for spiders (they are just too icky to get close too).

She likes to drink, mead and ale of course. She believes in action over talking, and just generally in being direct and honest. She does not trust elves as a rule, but does not hate them all either, except for the Thalmor of course. She worships Shor/Talos of course, and is not about to let some silly treaty those weakling Imperials made stop her from doing so.

To get an idea of her attitudes, here is her first journal entry since returning home to Skyrim:
From the journal of http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/subrosa_florens/Skyrim/Skyrim092.jpg

Well Ma, you always told me to write things down in a journal, just like you do. I know you always wanted me to be an alchemist, like you. When Shor's bones thaw in Sovengarde! But here I am anyway, writing in this empty book I bought from the trader. I wonder if you are still back in Dawnstar, picking snowberries off the mountainsides? And nagging Pa to wash up before dinner. As if a blacksmith can ever get clean. If you did not like soot, why did you tie Mara's knot with him?

Anyway, why am I writing this Ma? So much has happened, in the last few days. So many impossible things. Maybe I just want to convince myself it is all true, and I did not just dream it all. It still seems like a nightmare, dragons, the Empire trying to kill me, it is like Nirn has turned upside down.

It all started, when? I have no idea what day it was. I was finally returning home, after so many days in the Imperial army. So many years of fighting those Cyrod's wars, and for what? So that damned Emperor of theirs could betray us, betray Talos? What did we spill out blood for?

Ah, but that is just the tip of the horker. While crossing the mountains, I walked into something. I do not know what. There was a line of wagons carrying men. I thought it was a caravan at first, so I went to greet them. I was hoping they might have some mead or ale to trade. I have been living on melted snow and rabbits for days. The next thing I knew there was an arrow in my leg, then the pommel of an Imperial sword made a home against my head.

When I awoke, well, I was in the caravan. Only it was not a caravan at all, but a train of prisoners. The Jarl of Windhelm himself sat beside me! I remember him from the war. He fought with the rest of us Nords who had taken up the axe and sword to defend the Empire from the cursed elves. Now this is how the Empire treats us in return? This is our reward for faithful service? First they take our gods from us, then our lives?

For we were bound for the headsman's axe, in the Imperial castle at Helgen. They could care less that my name was not on their filthy list, or that I was a veteran of the Great War. All they wanted was Nordic heads on the field.

They would have had them too, if not the for the dragon. Yes, I wrote that, the dragon. I saw him as they laid my own head on the block. It was black as ebony, and turned the sky the same color with but a word. Thunder and fire rained down as it spoke, and men died all around. Nothing could harm it, not steel nor spell, and it took its time knocking over the castle as if it were one of those houses of cards Da would make at the dinner table.

The rest was confusing. More confusing then any battle. I was able to escape along with a Stormcloak named Ralof. He had sat across from me in the wagon. I like him Ma. He is not all full of bluster like most Nord men, who try to hide their fears and doubts behind false bravado. He has nothing to prove to anyone. He is just himself. A good Nord man who fought his way through the Imperials with me, as we made our escape from man and dragon. I wonder if he has tied Mara's knot? He spoke of a girl he knew in Helgen named Vilod. But only the ravens live in Helgen now...

The rest seems to trivial. We made tracks from there fast. If any of the Imperials escaped, we had to put miles between us and them. As well as from the rest likely to come when they saw the smoke. It filled the sky like a harbinger of doom. We made our way to a village where his sister lives, and hid with her for the night.

Ralof told me about the rebellion, about how Ulfric challenged the High King in the old way and slew him in personal combat. That the Empire wanted him dead, because he will not bow down to the elves, and betray our good Talos. I cannot believe so much has happened since I was away. Ralof says I should go to Windhelm with him, and join the fight. I think I should.

But it has been so long, and so much has happened, I wonder if I am home at all. I think I will be coming to see you soon instead Ma. First at least. You warned me about going away to fight for the Empire, but I would not listen. Now I see what a mistake it was. You were always so much smarter then Da and me. Like he always says, I got your looks, but his thick head. Maybe you will know what I should do.

-Hrafn, somewhere in southern Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:37 am

The distinction between a true nord vs a nord is the same as a true Irishman vs a regular Irishman.

I suppose you can say that every nord is a true nord... until they do something to soil their reputation. Then they were never a true nord to begin with, because a real nord would never have done such a thing. And a real christian does not do things that fake christians would do.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:11 pm

Thank you very much for your views! :)
I will have to make an effort to put everything together so it fits my ever-evolving image of what my Nord should be like.
I don't really have much background on the previous TES games, as Skyrim is the first one I've tried. But I'll manage.

Any other ideas, just shoot them at me, I'll be happy :)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:11 am

Well to resemble the vikings, you couldn't really be a woman, but barring that setback:

Blonde hair, blue eyes. Muscular and have braided hair and war-paint.

Use of axes and bucklers (Shields like the Shield of Ysgramor, though a little less metallic), light armor with studs of iron or scales.

Join the Cloaks (as the Vikings would never bow to a ruler) and worship Talos.

Bigoted towards other races (not be an outright ass to them, but definitely express your superiority over them if prompted)

Drunken brawls
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:08 am

Well to resemble the vikings, you couldn't really be a woman, but barring that setback:

Blonde hair, blue eyes. Muscular and have braided hair and war-paint.

Use of axes and bucklers (Shields like the Shield of Ysgramor, though a little less metallic), light armor with studs of iron or scales.

Join the Cloaks (as the Vikings would never bow to a ruler) and worship Talos.

Bigoted towards other races (not be an outright ass to them, but definitely express your superiority over them if prompted)

Drunken brawls
Yeah, I know a Viking-woman wouldn't really battle, but I would still like my character to be a woman, and make her one of very few women that were allowed to go with the men and make a name for herself :)
I also don't think I'd use a shield very often, as my preferred weapon is two-handed (greatsword or axe).
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:26 am

Maybe something like a Norse Berserker would fit the Nord?

http://library.thinkquest.org/C003446/a.php?b=16

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/vikings/berserker.htm
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:04 am

Maybe something like a Norse Berserker would fit the Nord?

http://library.thinkquest.org/C003446/a.php?b=16

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/vikings/berserker.htm

Thank you :) I'll make sure to look through it for ideas!
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:28 am

Yeah, I know a Viking-woman wouldn't really battle, but I would still like my character to be a woman, and make her one of very few women that were allowed to go with the men and make a name for herself :smile:
I also don't think I'd use a shield very often, as my preferred weapon is two-handed (greatsword or axe).
Viking era women (and the women of many other Pagan cultures) were not all Suzy homemakers. Some women did fight alongside men in battle. Most commonly they were called Shield Maidens, and they did everything the men did. You can find them in both historical accounts, and the eddas. As Saxo Grammaticus wrote: "They put toughness before allure, aimed at conflicts instead of kisses, tasted blood, not lips, sought the clash of arms rather than the arm's embrace, fitted to weapons hands which should have been weaving, desired not the couch but the kill, and those they could have appeased with looks they attack with lances"
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:23 am

Viking era women (and the women of many other Pagan cultures) were not all Suzy homemakers. Some women did fight alongside men in battle. Most commonly they were called Shield Maidens, and they did everything the men did. You can find them in both historical accounts, and the eddas. As Saxo Grammaticus wrote: "They put toughness before allure, aimed at conflicts instead of kisses, tasted blood, not lips, sought the clash of arms rather than the arm's embrace, fitted to weapons hands which should have been weaving, desired not the couch but the kill, and those they could have appeased with looks they attack with lances"

Oh, that makes sense. Then I finally understand 'Ragnar The Red' as well ^^
Thank you! :D
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:58 am

Heavy helmet (or guard helmet, stormcloak officer if you're going berserk)
Light armor or no armor (guard armor is good, some chainmail and protective padding)
Round shield (preferably a wooden guard shield)
one handed axe (later on sword when you're able to afford it or aquire it in battle)
these two could be swapped for a two handed axe I suppose (the ancient/nord hero variant, orcish or iron as the others are pimped woodchopping axes)
be cheerful in battle, since if you die fighting you go to sovngarde
drink mead :celebration:
join stormcloaks for [censored], pillage and plunder (if ulfric takes his war abroad)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:14 am

Okay, so here's what I got this far. I may add and/or remove things as I go:

My char is already a Nord, blonde with blue eyes (but I think I might have to start a completely new character to get all the ideas of a true Nord to fit).
Anyways, I was thinking I'd like either heavy or light armor, not a mix (preferably light, so I can carry more).
I'll have to always carry Nord Mead with me.
I'll take whatever food I can get from caves I plunder (at least I won't be stealing).
Any weapon I find, will be sold if it is not an Ancient Nord weapon (of course I only need one of each). Two-handed weapons being the favorite.
Shouts is the only magic to be used (I am Dragonborn, after all).
And based on comments, I'll be worshipping Talos, joining Stormcloaks and clear caves/dungeons for Draugrs to put my forefathers to rest in peace.

That's what I got this far. :) Sounds good?

I want to be a more or less honest Nord (I'd still like to be at least a little good), not stealing from NPCs, and still try to talk my way out of things rather than kill people on sight ^^
Okay, so mybe it'll be slight alterations to the "True Nord", but I WILL make it as close up to the image I have of my character-to-be as possible.

Any thing sounds wrong to you, or any more ideas, I'd be happy to have them :)
Thank you all for helping me! :D
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:02 am

The Nord way of honour does not forbid persuation or magic. Honour is more about how you face your friends and foes, not how you kill them eventually.

Don't bribe guards, don't let anybody insult you, you family or your ancestors. If someone wants a duel, there is no place for talking. If you are facing more than one enemy, magic is fine. After all, you gave your word to someone for most quests, and a true Nord would never let his friends down.

Consider for example Irileth of Whiterun, she's more Nord than any of the Black-Briars. Beeing a true Nord means standing up for your values and your honour, not that you have to fight with nothing else than broad swords.

Surely you have to support the Stormcloaks. Not beacause you hate elves, the empire or some Jarl. These are politics, it's about Talos. Abandoning Talos is abandoning the true way of the Nords.

Basically, check all dialog options of Kodlak White-Mane. He's the truest Nord out there. And always ask yourself: WWYD?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 am

The Nord way of honour does not forbid persuation or magic. Honour is more about how you face your friends and foes, not how you kill them eventually.

Don't bribe guards, don't let anybody insult you, you family or your ancestors. If someone wants a duel, there is no place for talking. If you are facing more than one enemy, magic is fine. After all, you gave your word to someone for most quests, and a true Nord would never let his friends down.

Consider for example Irileth of Whiterun, she's more Nord than any of the Black-Briars. Beeing a true Nord means standing up for your values and your honour, not that you have to fight with nothing else than broad swords.

Surely you have to support the Stormcloaks. Not beacause you hate elves, the empire or some Jarl. These are politics, it's about Talos. Abandoning Talos is abandoning the true way of the Nords.

Basically, check all dialog options of Kodlak White-Mane. He's the truest Nord out there. And always ask yourself: WWYD?

True, true. Wise words :)
So it's actually more about identity than anything else, not what means you might use to act on them?
I liked that part about being true to your word, that's partly what I meant by being honest and good. :)
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:43 pm

True, true. Wise words :smile:
So it's actually more about identity than anything else, not what means you might use to act on them?
I liked that part about being true to your word, that's partly what I meant by being honest and good. :smile:
Basically yes, "true Nord" is more important for the RP than for the playstyle itself. Sure, normally a true Nord has his shield and sword, but even mages can be true to the old ways, every Jarl has his court wizard and they are generally not seen as cowards.

If you want to play a true Nord, you should really listen to Kodlak and ask him about his thoughts on the civil war and other things. Brunwulf Free-Winter is also a good example for a true Nord where you don't have to kill elves before you eat breakfast. Sure, you can play an elf hating psycho, but you don't have to in order to be a true Nord.

My main char is a "true" Nord and does not hate every elf in the whole world. He does not like many of the Stormcloaks either, even though he helped Ulfric to achieve his goals. You can't always pick the ideal path and if you char is not stupid, he will realise that. It's important that you try to hold up your values in any situation and don't break your own code of honour. There is no glory in killing innocents, there may be however even be some glory if you assassinate someone who means harm to Skyrim and her people. Sometimes you can't face your enemies in a fair duel and you have to find other ways, for the greater good of Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:33 pm

I'm not sure about this racist thing. There's definitely animosity between Nords and elves on a general level, but outside the overtly racist population of Skyrim (many are Stormcloak followers) I haven't seen much either in game or within the lore to suggest that to be a Nord, or a "true Nord" (which is as subjective as 'true American or true Englishman') is to be racist to people who aren't Nords.

Again, a racist Nord is not a rare sight, but I don't see why it's associated with them to the point of being a typical character trait.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:44 am

Well..... you pick "Nord" as the race during character creation, as opposed to "Imperial" or "Breton" ... or something else.
And then.... you're done. TRUE NORD.
Congrats.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:47 am

Just remember that if you asked a roomful of 10 Americans what makes a "True American", you would get 10 very different answers.

If you want to play a stereotypical Nord, do all the stuff listed above. Stereotypically, Nords don't like magic; they look down on elves as weak and distrust them as aliens; they are totally into the warrior ethic, praising the strength of steel and all that; they are deeply religious and believe that an heroic death is more important than being a good person (an heroic death gets you into Sovngarde where there are 72 virgins waiting and ... wait ... I'm thinking of something else); they are rugged and manly, drinking a lot and getting in good natured fistfights; and they prefer yelling loud about the homeland to actual political thought.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:20 am

Let's see, a sterotype of a Nord.

- Blonde hair, blue eyes
-Lots of muscle
-Drinks lot of Nord mead and ale
-Uses heavy armor, and two-handed
-Would not use magic or bows
-Worships Talos (Wear Necklace of Talos, pray only at Talos Shrines)
-Dislike elves
-Join the Stormcloaks
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:41 am

Anyways, I was thinking I'd like either heavy or light armor, not a mix (preferably light, so I can carry more).
Yeah, Light Armor is the way to go I think. Not that you're not strong enough to carry the heavy stuff, but "real" Nord armor should look like you made it with your dad in his garage while you were both drunk. Most of the Light Armor types fit the bill beautifully. You might also check out http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969767555/myworkshopfiles?appid=72850 if you are on PC.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:34 am

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=12693
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:37 pm

First off if you want to be a Nord based of the irl vikings you should not have 2h. It's basically a myth, almost no one used 2h weapons in any time of age since you pretty much would get killed right away. Use shield and 1h axes, the metal in scandinavia is to heavy and fragile to make swords, and when they did make swords they became short, very heavy and very very expensive. Axes was easier, faster, and cheaper to make and easier to handel in combat than the swords. I would go with skyforge steel axe (or iron axe if you really into beeing a viking since iron was the most common metal for them, but i like the "runes" of the steel axe) and a kind of wood or hide shield (again the metal in scandinavia would bo to heavy for a pure metal shield)

Use light armor preferably some kind of guard armor since vikings mostly used leather and chain mail armor.

Also you do not need to be blond and blue eyed (just another myth), yes it may have been most common but having brown hair and/or eyes was not uncommon either.

For RP you should use speak since they was great merchants (not just the plundering brutes the rest of the world wants to make us out to be) and alchemy since there was a lot of herbal medicin going on in that time.

That's the major points you should consider if you want to make a real viking character
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