IGN article: Dark Souls > Skyrim I have to agree

Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:04 am

Sounds like someone was biased from the start. Thing is Skyrim is awesome. I don't think I'll ever play Dark Souls, even when it gets very cheap used.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:39 am

I don't understand why some aspects of a game are compared to another when they aren't even the same genre.

It's just like comparing Skyward Sword to Skyrim and then checking off what one game has over the other that is only relevant to a specific genre type.

Was Dark Souls > Skyrim? It depends on the person and what they are looking for in a game. For me, it definitely was, but it's also an entirely different kind of game.
Was Skyward Sword > Skyrim? Same answer as above.


Yes and that's a great argument but at some point we look back at games and can decide which was a better experience that moved the medium further. Skyrim is very immersive. has tons of options, and decisions but it also has some shortcomings in departments that dark souls excels at and as a game matter.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:48 am

Dark Souls and Skyrim are totally different.

In my opinion IGN are morons and they have a lousy publication.

Also I think that TES stands head and shoulders above any game on the market it terms of how good they are. Morrowind and Skyrim are on top followed by the others.

Also multiplayer should never be in this series. It would drag the game down, the time on that would be better spent creating the world and the content within.

Thank you for saving me the time to typing out my thoughts on this topic :thumbsup:
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:03 pm

LOL at point 3. This article is so old anyway. That dude that wrote it, writes nothing but crap for IGN anyway. And this was an article written to get more hits on their site anyway. Its meant to sound like ignorant flamebait.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:50 pm

Terrible ideas are terrible, if you don't get why this is a terrible idea then you don't really get what The Elder Scrolls are about and failed to notice this would entirely break the very prophecy that this game is based on which has been in a couple of the past games, there is only ONE/LAST Dragonborn who faces up against Alduin and that has always been the way it's meant to have been. More so online play like that requires some arbitrary amount of balance, TES doesn't care about balance, because balance isn't fun it's only about being fair, instead Bethesda try to focus on a deep interesting storyline and a fun game, not a stupidly competitive one.

As for IGN, everything and anything to do with News Corps is something everybody should be wary of, IGN may not be as bad as some of the other companies in that group but it's still the same corrupt people at the top of the chain.



Really? So we don't have online for the integrity of the story. This is still a video game, not a book.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:34 pm

Anyone who takes anything IGN writes seriously should have all their teeth plucked out one by one with all the force and speed of an eroding glacier.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:39 am

Why is multiplayer always perceived to be a good thing?
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:42 am

Alright I get it. For most of you skyrim is your drug, it's an escapist fantasy. Now can someone who actually likes video games going to discuss this.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:57 am

Really? So we don't have online for the integrity of the story. This is still a video game, not a book.


Well then play another video game. Some people actually care as much for the lore and story as they do for gameplay. I'll take better lore and story over an half-ass multiplayer mode.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:43 am

Thank you for saving me the time to typing out my thoughts on this topic :thumbsup:

Your welcome
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:54 pm

This so called "article" became a hard MEME.

Tebow > Skyrim PS3
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:14 am

This is a stupid comparison. One is a hack and slash tactical action game, the other is a role playing game.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:04 pm

Buy a real computer, and you'll see why Dark Souls can't hold a candle to Skyrim.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:15 pm

Alright I get it. For most of you skyrim is your drug, it's an escapist fantasy. Now can someone who actually likes video games going to discuss this.


oh wow, I don't even..
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:35 am

This so called "article" became a hard MEME.

Tebow > Skyrim PS3


ouch
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:02 am

Alright I get it. For most of you skyrim is your drug, it's an escapist fantasy. Now can someone who actually likes video games going to discuss this.


I love video games. I've been playing for years.

Skyrim doesn't need, nor will it ever need, multiplayer. It will cause more problems than it's worth. Mainly because it's meant to be a single player game, and that's why some people love it. They have a deep, complex, and enjoyable open-world RPG, without the problems multiplayer brings. For example, competition, a need for balance, lack of immersion, shrieking children, and elitists.

We may have shrieking children, elitists, and idiots on the forums, but we don't have to deal with them in the game, which is what matters.

If you don't understand that, it isn't us that's at fault. It's YOU.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:07 pm

Alright I get it. For most of you skyrim is your drug, it's an escapist fantasy. Now can someone who actually likes video games going to discuss this.

Wait, because we don't prefer online in our RPGs, we don't like video games? [censored], please. You don't like Skyrim as much as Dark Souls. We get it. You even agree with some moron IGN "reporter". Congratulations.

Realize that perhaps... when you come to the forums dedicated to Skyrim... you are going to find the largest amount of people who will tell you to stuff it?

Another sad case of PEBKAC.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:22 am

Really? So we don't have online for the integrity of the story. This is still a video game, not a book.


You talk about books as if multiple people can not read the same book at the same time, did you not do this in English class? So no that retort is pointless, Skyrim is a game yes, one with a deep lore and based around a strong setting, when the point of your game is based on Lore, you don't break that Lore. This isn't Blizzard, it is Bethesda and Bethesda don't hack-and-slash their lore to pieces just to appease the causal gamers over their stronger base audience which enjoys these single player adventures as single player adventures to immerse themselves in without other people screwing everything up. Notably Blizzard has focused more on games and genres that are multiplayer and part of the reason it went down the route it did with WoW, it also hacked-and-slashed the lore to pieces in making WoW to a point where none of it makes any sense anymore.

There are too many hollow multi-player games these days that most people don't even know what a good multi-player game is suppose to be like... just adding multi-player because it's multi-player is pointless and only works to decrement a game rather then to improve it. To add multi-player because it's actually a core part of the gameplay and/or because actually contributes to the experience is what multi-player should be used for. Nowadays there is just too many multi-player hack-and-slash games claiming to by RPGs and horrid war-based FPSs that deserved never to be made.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:12 pm

I haven't touched Dark Souls since Skyrim. I quit playing DkS about a week before Skyrim's release. I got as far as the "giant headless undead dragons that run around in the lava" area.

I agree with what Adebar said about the checkpoints in DkS being so far apart. Not being able to save at your discretion would make Skyrim more difficult and frustrating.

I played DkS offline exclusively (due to fail internet access), but the forums for that game were awash with players complaining about its implementation of multiplayer. E.g., "not being able to play with friends."
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:39 pm

You talk about books as if multiple people can not read the same book at the same time, did you not do this in English class? So no that retort is pointless, Skyrim is a game yes, one with a deep lore and based around a strong setting, when the point of your game is based on Lore, you don't break that Lore. This isn't Blizzard, it is Bethesda don't slash their lore to pieces just to appease the causal gamers over their stronger base audience which enjoys these single player adventures as single player adventures to immerse themselves in without other people screwing everything up.

There are too many hollow multi-player games these days that most people don't even know what a good multi-player game is suppose to be like... just adding multi-player because it's multi-player is pointless and only works to decrement a game rather then to improve it. To add multi-player because it's actually a core part of the gameplay and or actually contributes to the experience is what multi-player should be used for. Nowadays there is just too many multi-player hack-and-slash games claiming to by RPGs and horrid war-based FPSs that deserved never to be made.


Games have only gained from being multiplyer games are popular. Being able to add a real human being to games makes it much more immersive than just a non reactive NPC. Real life is random not scripted. Plus this is on mechanic or aspect that games can use that other mediums of entertainment cannot offer. There is a large portion of gamers who feel alienated from games when they do not include multiplayer. Skyrim as an open world game completely benefits from multiplayer just like dark souls, red dead, gta, saints row
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:03 pm

Other than Dark Souls being smooth to play but I always felt alone while playing it since there was basically no npc to talk to but merchants haha.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:05 am

Since we are on the subject of review sites

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/615803-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/index.html
http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/608635-dark-souls/index.html

Winner: Dark Souls :rolleyes:
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:02 am

Other than Dark Souls being smooth to play but I always felt alone while playing it since there was basically no npc to talk to but merchants haha.


that's somewhere skyrim truly excels

also i went from skyrim to dark souls not the other way arround
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:31 am

I read this article when it came out and thought it absurd. They're not similar. I like Dark Souls quite a bit. But I truly believe that the only reason it gets any attention is due to the difficulty. The same things people complain about games from Bethesda, Bioware etc. are given a pass in Dark Souls.

What's that? Skyrim's story is too short? Play Dark Souls! No it doesn't have an interesting story but it's super hard!
What's that? Mass Effect is too linear? Play Dark Souls! No it's not truly open world. It's more like interconnected corridors with a few open spaces. But it's super hard!
What's that? The there's barely any loot in Skyrim? Play Dark Souls! There's a million and one loot options! Not that they really affect your progress at all but hey, it's super hard!

It's like the game was created for nerds to show other nerds how hardcoe of a nerd they are. I played it quite a bit when it came out. I beat it and enjoyed the online component quite a bit. But the Jesus Christ of videogames Dark Souls is not.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:23 pm

Yes and that's a great argument but at some point we look back at games and can decide which was a better experience that moved the medium further. Skyrim is very immersive. has tons of options, and decisions but it also has some shortcomings in departments that dark souls excels at and as a game matter.


Who is arguing against that?

After reading that article I want to get Dark Souls even more, simply for the difficulty, among the other reasons. I wish Skyrim had some elements that Dark Souls apparently has, but that still is a crap article by someone who is either biased or had an agenda.
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