Yeah, Khajiit (and Bosmer)got shafted pretty hard in this game.

about the Khajiit caravaneers not recognizing other Khajiit, I distinctly remember Ri'saad saying," We are far from the deserts, friend." I would think that counts as racial acknowledgment.

He was most likely talking about his caravan.

What are you all talking about? i thought it was obvious, if your a khajiit you stay out side like the caravaners. Unless its night then your sneak in and do your thief thing. And to buy and sell... you use the caravaners... My Nord doesnt even speak to those filthy things outside the city, but my khajiit character will only do business with them,

Agreed. Though at least you can customise their apperarance properly this time around. Every Khajiit looked so similar in Oblivion.

Mind you Argonians were worse in that respect. The only difference between male and females appeared to be their body shape.

Was that by any chance the one near Riften?

yeah my friend told me about the strong holds so i went as my nord and just walked in no problem. maybe if youve advanced as dragon born they let you be or its just a glitch. the i enter was east of windhelm.

ive done the main quest and dont remember this?! lol fail on my part?! or is it a random spawn and you can get any npc.

I don't think it really has a lot to do with them being Khajiit. Jarls and guards just don't want big caravans settling down in their streets and markets. There aren't a lot of Khajiit not involved with Ri'Saad's caravans, but those who are, like J'Zargo in the College of Winterhold, have no problem getting into towns.

Also, they do get some love. They get two followers, J'Zargo and Kharjo. Bosmer and Argonians get only one follower, and Altmer none at all.

Not to mention they look a LOT better than they did in Oblivion. The devs have put some serious effort in making them look awesome. It's pretty hard to make a humanoid cat not look cartoonish.

They DO care that you're dragonborn, they let you in the city!

Yup, am being very straight and honest with my comment. I love the Khajiit caravaneers and my follower has been the best fighting partner I've had so far. So some of them deal Skooma and other drugs big deal. I still trust them more than most other people in this world.

He could at least mention something, though. Like, "Even though you're a Khajiit, my Lieutenant speaks highly of you. I wouldn't normally be so accepting of help from your kind, but you've shown where your loyalties lie."

Little things like that, for all races, from some of the more prominent characters would be quite welcome. But I think the only character in the MQ, after Helgen, to identify my race was when Despite the racially charged tension among the Nords, they didn't care about my race one bit (made worse by how the Khajiit are typically allied with the Thalmor, whom neither the Stormcloaks or Empire like, yet no one ever questions you or remarks on that).

I really think the MQ could've had more encounters with the different races, both "good" and "bad". As it is, the people you encounter for it are essentially all human*, with some high elves, one bosmer, one dark elf, and one (optional) orc... and one khajiit, who doesn't say anything and tries to kill you moments later. I know that this is Skyrim, and Nords are going to be predominant, but it's pretty ridiculous how lopsided it is, IMO.

* And yes, I use "human" because Nords, Imperials, and Bretons are practically indistinguishable.

And become Thane, and get a Housecarl, and buy a house.. just like any other race.


Another thing that really bugs me is that quest Ysolde has you do.

Suspension of Disbelief should not be called into play to overlook game design problems. It is for things like flying dragons, the existance of Khajiit and Argonians, Magic, the undead, et al.

The lack of consequences for your actions (as small as racial choices for characters all the way up to your characters achievements) is a problem for this game. It can be over looked but does detract from the immersion.

Why would he want to say "I'm a racist bastard" to your face like that?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:ShavariThis one. She gives honorable Khajiit a bad name.

Why does that reinforce the stereotype?
She is a Thalmor assassin.

Cuz she's just there cuz she's up to no good.

Because he kind of is a racist bastard, and doesn't seem to be the tactful type. The Stormcloaks are all "Skyrim for the Nords!" and you're decidedly not Nord (and worse, of a race that's allied with the Thalmor; I don't think even Ulfric is dense enough to miss that).

It seems that only your character is allowed in cities for some reason.

Makes no difference. The revelation that the player character is a Dragonborn does not become known (to you or anyone) until the "Dragon Rising" chapter the main quest. Since it's possible to disregard the main quest entirely upon getting out of Helgen, and yet still possible for you to enter any city, then the Dragonborn thing has nothing to do with it.

Then why is there an orc part of the forsworn?

I played an Orc and walked into an Orc Stronghold. Different reaction than non-orcs (and quests).

I played a Dunmer and walked into Windhelm. Different reaction than non-Dunmer (I assume Agronian get different treatment here also).

I played a Khajiit and barely (but did) get recognized by the Khajiit caravans. I married Ysolda since she seemed to be ok with Khajiit.

I do wish there was more, but with 10 races coming up with a different reaction all the time would have been a major undertaking. I really couldn't expect Bethesda to do much more.

The only town NPC I've met that recognises me as a khajiit is the guy who runs The Drunken Huntsman in Whiterun.

"Hello my Khajiit friend" he says when I talk to him.

I don't know. Okay maybe you guys are right that the Forsworn is a faction. But the main members are a race of their own called the Reachmen.

Khajiit merchants are not allowed in cities, other khajiits are accepted, but obviously very rare because of the climate and discrimination. It is similar to the dark elves in the slums and Windhelm. You dont see very many dark elves, because nords hate them. You dont see many argonians, because nords hate them. You dont see many khajiits, because nords hate them. They were more accepted in Cyrodill because Cyrodill was a mixing pot of races and cultures, the nords are narcissistic and racist and thats why beast races are rare.