So -- I'm learning to draw

Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:04 pm

That the swords of our creative endeavors always be pointed in the same direction and in combined unison, together valiantly and with utmost resilience fighting against that unholiest of abominations


Spoiler
MS clipart :chaos:



edit:
..and of course what Darth said

Elvis.
:bolt: <-- this again
Building.

I made quite a large laugh when I looked at the spoiler.

And may our creative utensils of choice always draw blood.

Spoiler
because blood always makes stuff more action packed


Hey! We're not playing with fire, we're playing with the Large Hadron Collider.


Oh god. The entire planet is going to explode. :facepalm:
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Sista Sila
 
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:24 pm

btw. For surreal drawing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ink_brush is a great tool. Not sure how accessible they are to you tho.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:26 am

btw. For surreal drawing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ink_brush is a great tool. Not sure how accessible they are to you tho.

Never seen these anywhere around here o.o
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:52 am

Never seen these anywhere around here o.o

Do you have a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaels where you live?
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:43 pm

Do you have a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaels where you live?


Yes I dooo.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:57 pm

Nipponophilia, perhaps?


I love Japan as much as the next guy, but I think some people are really going too far.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:02 am

People who draw manga, have usually learned to draw the "traditional way" first. The ability to draw people from many perspectives and directions in black and white in 2D; you have to first understand, how things look from all directions and how you get the shapes look real (soft, round, convex) in 2D. How the shadows fall on surfaces, how items go behind other items.

I took art school for 12 years weekly as a kid, and probably half the time we just had charcoal pencils and we drew everyday items and things and people over and over again. Model sitting on table, model standing, flowers, coffee mugs, sceneries from the window.... I swear I have drawn one particular coffee pot at least 500 times in my life.

That's how the coordination with hand, eyes, and brains will develop. There is a saying that you can master something after practicing it 10,000 hours. Here is a good practice, that you can do on your own:

- pick an object, or a friend who's co-operative, or watch out the window and pick maybe a car or so, that's staying in place. Or build a small item scenery on your table: a clock, book, flower, toy.
- draw the object(s) with soft pencil on cheap paper in say, 10 minutes
- next paper, draw the same in 2 minutes.
- next paper, draw the same in one minute.
- next paper, draw in 10 seconds.
- next paper, draw in 5 seconds.
- next paper, draw in 2 seconds.
- destroy the papers, re-arrange items, and start again.
The purpose of this is, you start to understand how everything forms and how forms are connected to each other. Once you have only few seconds to draw, you have to understand the shape of things, to be able to draw it with few lines. So repeat this as often as you just can :) and the papers that you draw here, don't get attached to them, think those same way as a piano player has to practice every day, but they do not record every practise hour they play. They serve a purpose just at the time you draw them.

Eventually this practice will start to kick backwards when your hand and brain learns to co-operate, and you can draw lines on 2D manga characters that look moving or fluffy or weak or strong. The lineweight makes the 2D-drawings alive, and only way you can learn it is by drawing a LOT. And when you want to draw manga, buy a big roll of skiss-sketch-paper -it's very thin and cheap architecture drawing kinda paper, sold on paperstores, slightly see-trough like oven paper, so you can sketch manga and draw them again and again untill you're happy with them. First try doesn't have to be the final drawing, draw things as many times as you get them right. Use the roll without thinking how long it will last. The faster it goes out, the faster you're learning :)

Oh, and once you master this, you will also win everyone in Pictionary and other draw-and-guess-games ;)
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:25 pm

People who draw manga, have usually learned to draw the "traditional way" first. The ability to draw people from many perspectives and directions in black and white in 2D; you have to first understand, how things look from all directions and how you get the shapes look real (soft, round, convex) in 2D. How the shadows fall on surfaces, how items go behind other items.

I took art school for 12 years weekly as a kid, and probably half the time we just had charcoal pencils and we drew everyday items and things and people over and over again. Model sitting on table, model standing, flowers, coffee mugs, sceneries from the window.... I swear I have drawn one particular coffee pot at least 500 times in my life.

That's how the coordination with hand, eyes, and brains will develop. There is a saying that you can master something after practicing it 10,000 hours. Here is a good practice, that you can do on your own:

- pick an object, or a friend who's co-operative, or watch out the window and pick maybe a car or so, that's staying in place. Or build a small item scenery on your table: a clock, book, flower, toy.
- draw the object(s) with soft pencil on cheap paper in say, 10 minutes
- next paper, draw the same in 2 minutes.
- next paper, draw the same in one minute.
- next paper, draw in 10 seconds.
- next paper, draw in 5 seconds.
- next paper, draw in 2 seconds.
- destroy the papers, re-arrange items, and start again.
The purpose of this is, you start to understand how everything forms and how forms are connected to each other. Once you have only few seconds to draw, you have to understand the shape of things, to be able to draw it with few lines. So repeat this as often as you just can :) and the papers that you draw here, don't get attached to them, think those same way as a piano player has to practice every day, but they do not record every practise hour they play. They serve a purpose just at the time you draw them.

Eventually this practice will start to kick backwards when your hand and brain learns to co-operate, and you can draw lines on 2D manga characters that look moving or fluffy or weak or strong. The lineweight makes the 2D-drawings alive, and only way you can learn it is by drawing a LOT. And when you want to draw manga, buy a big roll of skiss-sketch-paper -it's very thin and cheap architecture drawing kinda paper, sold on paperstores, slightly see-trough like oven paper, so you can sketch manga and draw them again and again untill you're happy with them. First try doesn't have to be the final drawing, draw things as many times as you get them right. Use the roll without thinking how long it will last. The faster it goes out, the faster you're learning :)

Oh, and once you master this, you will also win everyone in Pictionary and other draw-and-guess-games ;)


All that hard work in drawing, and just tear it up? :cryvaultboy:
I'd end up holding onto it.

Not 100% sure if i'd be able to draw the same thing over and over [if i'm forcing myself to]. Like I'v drawn the same character about 7 times now, each time making minor changes to make it closer to how I want.

And unfortunately for me. I don't know a single person who plays pictionary xD. So i'd be showign off those skills to imagination :P
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:09 pm

great news man, good for you. really, it is. this generation is art deprived. severely.

art is always hard for me when someone is watching or telling me how to do it. i don't think i have ever done anything creative while someone was watching or controlling or waiting over shoulder. well, except for a few times when i produces a quick on demand sketch of something that looked kind of like a general car shape. never let anyone or anything to discourage you from anything artistic, though. ever. they are jealous and or resentful. or are trying to help but going about it the wrong way, so just keep at it, they'll get it. even if it is Hitler-like art teacher; she was just trying to expose you guys to a wider ranger of art, getting you guys to try different things, kind of like test driving a few cars before picking one you like best but in this case, the test drive is mandated by the curriculum, not the will of the student guiding the choices. i'd say you missed some art lessons that could come handy, maybe even now with this magna thing. sometimes we have to do what we don't want to, for our own better, for our own good. from one artistic soul to another, i know it is hard and very discouraging and irritating and a blow to the ego, but some good comes from it.

did you know Hitler was an artist, too? apparently, got rejected when applying for art school or something like that.
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