I completely disagree with your disagreement, but, thats for another thread

I wan't someone to name 10 Singleplayer RPG's that don't end.

and don't say Fallout 3 because you had to pay extra for that feature.

Yep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEX-d0yuxGk was pretty much my ending.



Besides Fallout 2 and ME2(inb4 not RPG), I really can't name one off the top of my head, let alone ten. I'd be really interesting in knowing ten RPGs that don't end too.

Edit: Not counting Bethesda games of course.

Fallout 3 (A Failed Attempt of Fallout.)
Oblivion (I dont know because I never play Fantasty Games, Except DA.)
Um, Thats it. Also MMO's are NOT RPGS. They are games that people play to look cool, And the game makers JUST slap RPG on there too make it look otherwise.

@ At Above Post: FO2's play-after-ending is'nt canon. Its just there for easter eggs.

Yeah, I know. Better to put it there so that I don't get yelled at later though.

Really? you were blown away by the linear story that involved you sacrificing your life ( or not) to activate the purifier, and apparently you are a coward for sending your super mutant companion into the purifier even though fawkes cant die? The ending was not only poorly designed in many aspects the only real things that would change with the ending was:

1. Who activates it.
2. Karma
3. Serve Eden.

That's really it, and the game holds your hand down one quest line. Broken steel took an ending that i was at least fine with and turned it into another BoS follow along kill enclave dudes quest-line. Despite Eastern BoS being quite reasonable they are really no more than savages with scavenged equipment in weaponry hell if you made your own laser rifle out of scrap parts and the Brotherhood caught you they would most likely confiscate it (Aka thief it). I'd be content to wipe them out and help the Enclave, but the game couldnt have multiple choice, oh no. Although you can wipe out both factions at the end of BoS.

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Troika maybe. Might have saved them from closing.

Absolutely, playing through the game, knowing you will get a definite cut-off ending with canned explanations of what happens is just lame. (and really surprising)

Bethesda made their game infinitely better when finally allowing you to simply exist in the world after the main quest (not to forget the Broken Steel awesomeness), and it makes playing through the content so much more satisfying.
Of course FO3's original ending was worse, but equally disappointing imo, and ruins re-play value in a big way.

I played through FO3 3 times, I've played FoNV once and although it was awesome, I'm not rushing to do it again, because the handling of the ending is depressing.
Also I cannot see myself playing the DLCs, I just don't care, the game ends, I have to re-wind to do them, that's not as fun as having my character in the present, existing world, and being able to do them.

Broken steel was broken on release, the project impurity's ending is non-existant (you allow raven rock to survive, you put the modified FEV virus into project purity, and your little tale continues as if your personal choices never happened) I'd rather not have this again, and i hope if the DLC team decides to make another Broken Steel-esque DLC that it would be expansion sized for 29,99 USD, that way they can actually work it into all the endings and possible choices ( I miss expansions).

Dude, read my post! I was saying that FO3s ending svcked compared to FNV!

Dont preach to me what I already know!

i Misquoted q.q

Forgiven.

NV endings reminds me of FO2 endings, but the after-end-gameplay of FO2 is non-cannon

Level Cap = Good, do you need a character with skill of 100 in all areas. You can't be a sneaky sniper and a brute power armor explosives and energy weps expent at the same time.

Ending game = Bad, let me see the world I made.

Four endings, many variables, you cannot see the world that you made without waiting for another game.

I disagree, of course. Even though a Fallout game made by Troika wouldn't likely have been as commercially succesful (a merit which really does nothing to the gamer) it would've definitely been better game both as a Fallout game and as an RPG.

Though I do agree about the EA part.

I seriously believe that the large majority of hardcoe gamers will manage to find the money to buy both games -- provided both games are at least "pretty good". About the ONLY time that the gamers decide "I can buy A or I can buy B, but I can not buy both" is when both games are released at approximately the same time. [And I'm fairly certain that the manufacturers view the market Demand the same way I do.]

Me too, 2 minute is barely the beginning.

And there is actually a few quest which your reputation will contribute

Bethesda save the series, no doubt, but the result is almost unrecognizable when you start digging deeper.....

And I don't mind 4 post 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam DLCs........as long as it isn't the "Revenge of Enclave" or "Return of the Chosen One".

And the same can be said for someone else. I have experienced no bugs on nv or fo3, just because YOU experience bugs does not mean everone else does.

I always remake a character when I download new content because sometimes things are added to the beginning. If someone only makes one character then they aren't really fallout people since it is an rpg and is made to be played multiple times.

Why did you put that link on there? I'm stuck on that site now and I won't be able to move on until I read all the definitions!

I love borderlands but it is a linear game, the ending for everyone is the same. If fnv did that there could be over a hundred different endings dependng on which quests people did and how they ended them. It's not obsidians failed implementation. It worked for fo3 because the main quest was linear and the side quests didn't matter.

Totally disagree with your statements.


You should be able to keep going with no CAP!!! Experience should count for something.

Plus, you've been harking on this thread multiple times about no GOD character. Why not? It's Single Player!!!

What?!?!? I make only one character and I am a hardcoe Fallout Fan! I can never finish a new character, I start if off, but then I realise how boring it will be to make a new char.