Ok anybody else think that delphine and esbern shouldnt expect the dragon born to kill Parthurnaax? "Youre not welcome here until Parthurnaax is dead?'"
Delphine wtf?! Why do I have to do it? He seriously just helped me out a huge load! Why cant you do it? Arent the blades supposed to be the protectors of the dragonborn?
Anybody want to put some input on that? Give me some reasons why i should understand why I should have to

This should probably be in the Skyrim spoilers section, or at least have spoiler tags around it.

Delphine and Esbern are disillusioned heretics. They've abaonded the way of the Blades.

It's in the Lore section currently, where we assume everything is a spoiler.

Arngeir warns you that the Blades have never truly served the Dragonborn, and it looks like he's right. If this is true, it's a major surprise, as every mention of the Blades heretofore has them as the zealously loyal agents of the Emperor.

What surprises me about Delphine's demand is how blatant it is that the Blades are willing to turn their backs on the Dragonborn, not long after they had claimed that their sole raison d'etre is to serve the Dragonborn, and that they have waited centuries for a new one to appear. She's not even trying to hide the fact that the Blades have an agenda, above and beyond serving the Emperor.

Which raises the question of what they're really up to.

As for whether to kill Paarthurnax -- well, what makes sense to you in character? You don't have to fulfill every request anyone asks of you.

I tell you though after Shutter Island and now Esbern, Max von Sydow is falling out of favor with me.

I wish I could whoop Delphine up for trying to use the Dovahkiin as a tool in her blasphemous scheme.

Bah, he doesn't write the dialogue so I still like him. Plus I enjoyed Shutter Island.

Oh, just pop in Conan and it'll all be good again.

Anyways, These Blades have been hiding out in rat-holes for most of their careers and have never actually served under a Dragonborn before. A part of me thinks that with with time, they'll stop acting like colossal dike-weeds and realize that following outdated 2nd era missives to the letter isn't going to get them anywhere.

I had revamped this story I'd written in like 7'th grade about a psychologist who at the end of the story ended up being a mental patient who thought his doctors were his patients. I finished the story literally the day before Shutter Island came out, so everyone who read it was all like,

"Dude, you just copied Shutter Island but changed a few things." and "Bro you gotta be careful about plagiarizing. This is just too big a rip off of Shutter Island."

Damn you, Shutter Island!

This is one of the few occasions where I wish Skyrim was a little bit more like New Vegas. I liked the way you could kill almost anyone in NV and I was disappointed when I realised I couldn't wipe out the Blades for trying to betray Parthurnaax.

They can sit in that cold, damp, abandoned temple until the bells of the Allmaker's goat have rung for all I care.
Im not killing my friend the dragon.

Edit, at Chaplain:
They shouldnt have done that. I dont know what shutter island is, but is by no means the first to come up with that idea and neither are you. It is, I believe, as popular a 'thing' as 'evil guy finds redemption' or 'the butler did it.'
What should count is originality in the telling of the tale, and style.

Personally I didn't begrudge Esbern and Delphine so badly for their demand that I kill Parthurnaax that I wanted them dead, though I did wish I had the option of dissuading them. Quite frankly, I don't trust millenia-old stories enough to decide on someone's death sentence from them.

It's just a touch hypocritical that they want to nab Parthunaax for ancient crimes, yet the Blades outright flaunt their ties with people who were at least hangers-on in a bloody, violent invasion of Tamriel.

There's a difference between seeing something and copying it and coming up with an idea independently without knowing something already existed. It happens all the time. I just hate how people always jump at the chance to accuse someone of plagiarism.

On the subject of the Blades. They're useless now. I'd argue that they've been useless even before the Oblivion Crisis. It was their uselessness that allowed the Oblivion Crisis to continue. They didn't want to scratch their fancy suits of armor and put knicks in their katanas, so while the CoC, Martin, Jauffre, Burd, and a handful of city guards fought the endless hordes of Daedra outside Bruma, the Blades were content to sit tight in Cloud Ruler Temple, doing nothing, guarding a building instead of guarding the man who the building was built for.

That's pretty much what I wanted to say to them.

And they're not even the good kind of Heretics. They're just stupid and blind.

The funny thing about heresy is that when you are the only members of the organization, you control what ideas are orthodox. The Thalmor purged the Blades. Delphine and Esbern remade it according to their image, and no one who truly remembers can complain.

I hate the blades in this game. I wish I could re-close the door to Sky Haven Temple so that they'd have to jump of the cliff in an attempt to leave.

Looks like the Blades our the new Adoring Fan

At least the Adoring Fan could be pushed off of cliffs for amusemant. Take Delphine and Esbern to a cliff, they'd claim it as their own and then make you kill a dragon to come back.

So true.

Not when you're basing your authority on tradition. Besides, I remember (both as myself and as my character) and I can complain - too bad they did away with lock spells, else I could make them rot in some dungeon cell for eternity.

Basically what I said in my post:)

If you would not find it too inconvenient, I would love to read your story.
As long as you are willing to start with the idea someone might not love it to death I would be happy to provide critique.
I dont know if it comes across but my writing style is deliberate.

(Its all about the rythm and the surprise, the walrus said to the oyster)

The next TES thing I'm gonna write (and hopefully use to breach the ranks of t0) will be from the point of view of a Cloud Ruler Temple Blade who was damned with the rest of his comrades at the Temple by Talos for locking the gates and staying behind the ramparts during the Battle of Bruma instead of following Martin and the Hero of Kvatch to fight the Daedra. For their cowardice, Talos denied them the salvation of Aetherius, leaving them mindless ghosts who still go about the empty motions of sharpening their blades without intending to fight and polishing their armor which they refuse to sully in combat.

My protagonist was spared this fate so he may pay his debt through servitude to humanity and the Empire. He acts as an aetherial informant to t0, forwarding them dreamsleeve transmissions concerning history and Imperial matters when they ask for it. While he can send transmissions ad semblio, it was Hasphat Antabolis who offered the Temple a restored, Dwemer-built Quasi-Wailing Earthbone-Reactive Typographer or QWERT. With this device that attunes directly to ebb of the Dreamsleeve through 9'th-dimensional imaginary scarab-vectors under the metamathematical Law of Potential-But-Never-Quite-Really Earthbones (which states that Earthbones that might have existed can still be used for basic divining purposes), confraters of the Temple can typograph instant inquests to the cursed ex-Blade, whereupon he can reply with a normal dreamsleeve transmission that is instantly de-wailed and memographed in a non-encrypted, (to save time of course) readable format.

But because he is also determined to help the Empire regain its honor and ensure the posterity of the last great Empire, he also helps t0's equivalent and nemesis society, the often-misguided, comically blundering (but still good-hearted and well-meaning) Imperial College of Double-Standards and Mnmeasures, which seeks to learn and catalog the innumerable oddities and existential anomalies within the Empire and far-beyond. Their crest: A man in a Colovian fur hat grasping nine arrows in his right hand and angrily shaking his fist at a puffy cloud with his left, under which is their motto, "If It Isn't Broke, Someone's Lying to You."

What annoy's me though, more than their lunacy and hypocrisy, is the fact that I was really looking forward to interacting with the Esbern character before Skyrim was released. So disappointing, I don't even want them redeemed or for them to have a change of mind in a DLC now, I just want they're essential status revoked in a patch, so that the unwashed masses can Fus Ro Dah them off the cliff, when they dare look me in the eye and disrespect my sensibilities.

Yes I feel that strongly. Their naiveté is a festering open wound on my otherwise enjoyable, care-free existence lol

Delphine also gave me indigestion when I ate something at her inn.