Not just graphics, voice acting, combat, control scheme. To take Final Fantasy 6 as an example compared to the old Dragon Quest games, in DQ you had to push a button to bring up a menu, then choose the talk option to engage an npc in conversation. In FF and all modern games you simply have a context sensitive activate button;You could not tell when buying a weapon if it was better than what you had,etc These kinds of things, I don't see the need for MW type combat anymore, were simply beyond that.

Also back in the day when Final Fantasy 6 was my favorite game(and I was a console player), I was alot more "hardcoe" I always would say graphics don't matter. I played Phatasy Star for Sega Master System when PS2 was the current system, I played the old Dragon Quests games, Long after there original release, In between playing FF9 and FF10 I would play Ys Book 1&2 for Turbo Duo. Then not long after FF10 I stopped playing games. I got into other hobbys and for a few years I did not play anything. Then I got my first pc, and thought what the hell, lets try some computer RPG, so I gave Morriowind(I remembered it because I had play it for Xbox) a shot and loved it. And I was back to playing games but only in a part time fashion.

Excluding the last 2 months, In the Last 5 years I have only really played 2 games, Fallout 3 and Oblivion. Bethesdas high quality AAA titles got me to keep playing, now I am finally after over 5 years back to being more or less a full time gamer, but no longer can I tolerate dated mechanics, old graphics,etc like I could in my teens. Thats just how it is for me now. I am older and I have other things to do beside game, so when I game I want it to be something I really like.

I tried branching out more and playing Far Cry 2 even though its modern its set in a cool African locale and I was trying to go out of my comfort zone anyway., but man you can't do anything(except kill people that is and ride a car). There is no npc interaction, unless its the main story or its killing. The world is empty, big and empty. The combat is cool I guess, a little hard for me(and I play it on easy) as I have never tried to really play a fps. I will try playing a few more hours but I don't think I will be able to get into it. I have a gaming comfort zone for a reason.

More Sandbox Rpg and action adventure games please!!

you can make your own maps for online play, if you've got a creative side. that's what I liked most about the game.

sorry, don't have any suggestions.

well, it's not RPG, but it has a brilliant engine not used in any other game. if you like destroying stuff, Red Faction: Guerilla is a lot of fun. the world isn't full of life, the game takes place on Mars, but when you get into a small cluster of buildings you can have a lot of fun.

and when I mean destroy stuff, it's not like mercenaries where you shoot a building a few times with a rocket launcher and it collapses, you take the building down brick-by-brick.

I know what you mean, bro. You should give Sacred 2 a shot, it's definitely something that can keep you busy while waiting for new SBRPGs to come out. The world is massive, graphics are pretty damn good, and plus your typical RPG stuff.

Divinity 2: Dragon Knight Saga

That's not really open world. Still grand, but not what Kefka. seems to be looking for.

You don't mention single-player games. So I will suggest Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. Vanguard is, next to the Elder Scrolls games, my all-time favorite open-world game. Its game world is more detailed than Morrowind but slightly less detailed than Oblivion and it is ten times larger than either.

I read it had a big open world, but strangely it does not seem to be refereed to as a sandbox or open world game.

Can you just go were you want? Do side quests whenever,etc I really want to know why the reviews I read mention a large open world, but then go on to describe a game that does not sound like a Red Dead or Oblivion type. Some one above said its a hack n slash, which would be fine ifs it truly an open world go where you want when you want game.


No mmo, just single player games for me.

Oh and I tried Fry Cry 2 some more, no thanks not for me.

I played Vanguard a while back, and quite enjoyed it. I stopped playing about when they introduced the dynamic weather system, but quit due to time constraints and not being able to find groups. Is the game still pretty active? I wouldn't mind giving this game another shot, as that and Everquest 2 were the only MMOs I truly enjoyed.

Nehrim.

In reality, its a brand new game based off the Oblivion engine.

That's a huge limitation...

While I'll be the fist to admit that the Gamebryo engine is not the greatest, Nehrim is quite an amazing game. I've only played it for about an hour or two thus far, but I've already enjoyed it more than I enjoyed Oblivion my first time through.

Heroes 2... if you don't mind sifting through THE MOST corn.

Is it open world like Oblivion?



Explain.

Minecraft can be played on single player.

Yeah minecraft is kidnda the end-all-be-all of open world these days.

What about the Fallout series? Any self respecting Beth fan ought to have played FO3, but the earlier iterations were pretty freeform too. There is still a pack out there somewhere that has the first, the second and fallout tactics.

If you're ok with the future-shooter type genre, go for Red Faction: Guerrilla. the story is quite linear, but its open world is really great.

Not what Iam looking for.



Older Fallouts, too dated, after trying Fry Cry 2, I don't think that FPS are for me, unless there is a lot more to it than Fry Cry.

I think you're running out of options, especially if you don't want to look at the older games.

Yeah, you're missing out on the best games due to being shallow. :shrug:

Vanguard is on life support but it's still alive. I play it as though it were the world's largest single-player game so the lack of other players doesn't particularly bother me. Mainly, I explore. I love to explore. After Morrowind, it's my favorite game world for exploration.

red faction guerilla is a third person open world game on the PS3, 360 and PC . you don't have "quests" and there's no RPG elements, but it features an engine that is exclusively used in the series, since the first on PS2 and PC. The fourth is supposed to come out in May, and it's definatly one of my top priorities.

the engine allows you to take structures down "piece-by-piece". watch a few videos on you tube. there's a decent main storyline, your basically a demolitions expert in mining turned resistance fighter, and on Mars(it's set a few hundred years in the future where earths resources are running low and massive corporations have put there combined efforts in to terraform and colonize Mars). there's a bit of history behind it, but it gets somewhat explained throughout the storyline. there's even a wiki for it, IIRC...

there are varied "guerilla actions" that you can do as well, such as attacks on enemies structures, rescuing captured guerilla fighters, transporting vehicles, hijacking or destroying enemy convoys, defending civilian or guerilla locations against enemy waves(the convoys and defense side missions happen randomly as you explore, as well as a bunch of other side missions).

some downsides:

-the map is quite large, and it gives a bit of replay value in terms of how you want to attack a specific objective. however, the landscape is quite barren at times, and for a game where the main objective is to destroy stuff, you would like to see a lot of large towns you can flatten. although there is at times, most of the building clusters are enemy strongholds, and there's still an "empty"feel at times. it is does add to the atmosphere, though.

-after completely bringing a building down, there is some rubble, but not as much as you'd like to see. but it is absolutely INSANE some of the stuff you can do.

-although the game had an alright multiplayer, no one plays too much anymore, and most of the games are Team Anarchy matches(like team deathmatch).

there's probably more downsides, but I'm on an iPhone and tired, my friend's asleep on my couch and I'm hungry.

Bottom line: if you like blowing the hell out of stuff....get this game. if not, it'll seem repetitive before your through the first time. me, I originally got guerilla on the 360, then got a PS3 for free online and purchased it off their store for 25 CND I think, got all the add-ons to, but no one plays online anymore, so it was kind of pointless to get the multiplayer one. I never tried it on the PC, but I think you can mod it to an extent.

I know, no wonder I have been a part time gamer for the last 5 years! But there is hope, Scared 2 seems pretty neat, I checked out more reviews and I am going to try it, hopefully it will go better than Far Cry 2...



I have my preferences you have yours. I already explained in an earlier post why I want more recent games and its not all to do with graphics, for example MWs combat is dated, we have evolved beyond one click die roll mash fests.

Yes it is open world, but it follows the pattern of other RPGs such as Gothic 3 or WoW. Yes, you can go anywhere, but if you wander into a high-level area before you're ready you'll be quickly killed.

And its free, what more can you ask for? Calling it a mod really isnt fair. Its a full-sized game thats been released for free. Seriously mate, pick a game thats been suggested and just go with it. Despite what you may think now, you may end up absolutly loving it.

you're going to have to be a little more flexible here. the number of recent high fantasy open world games is quite limited. If you haven't yet, pick up Fallout 3 or New Vegas. those are probably more RPG than they are shooter. I hear that Just Cause 2 had a quite exapnsive open setting for its sandbox gameplay, so it's worth a look -- possibly is more free-form than Far Cry 2. On the other hand when you play in sandboxes you have to expect finding some number of small dried turds, In this case I'll advise you to steer clear of Two Worlds, it does have a huge open world that's nicely populated and modeled, but there's little else going for it, and after playing Oblivion, the experience was truly soporific. I'm assuming that satisfying your desire for open world games requires more than some pretty vistas.

The reason it's not necessarily a sandbox RPG is because there are a couple areas you can't get to by adventuring, and the enemies are scaled in a way that you'll be dead very quickly if you try and explore a whole lot. After you're a decent level, you can go anywhere.