It's the opposite rule here. And yes, terrifying.

Hopefully you're never called for jury duty.


Well if you're the type to prejudge people based on experiences which have nothing to do with said people, then what can I say. Hopefully, with time, you'll understand why it's better to be an objective thinker and not an impulsive one.

On the contrary, he could use his distrust of police to possibly get out of jury duty. I know that under certain circumstances they relieve you from it, like if you can prove you're a racist and the likes. Of course, I could be completely wrong.

Nope....you're right.

All you have to say to the judge is "I hate cops"......you're done for the day.

That article is horribly biased and unbalanced...

Here you go

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/23802688/detail.html

I'm curious as to what makes you think cops are so bad

Clearly you've never had an incident arise, as my family has, for a police officer to come and help out your situation

Clearly you've never had to call the cops when your aunt's drunk ex-husband came and beat her and her kids in the middle of the night

Clearly you've never had cops help you look for your cousin when she ran away and you had no idea what happened to her

Be sure to tell them that you think they're a bunch of crooked bastards when they respond to your call for help

Oh yes and these incidents are real and they happened to my family. And I am happy that the police were there to help us in a time where we needed help.

How so?
Off-duty Marine shot 14 times by off-duty officer. The thing that grabbed my attention was the amount of times he was shot. Especially when there apparently was no threatening situation.
Edit: ok, not sure about how many times he was shot. Still doesn't matter.

Haha, now it seems as if you're presuming things about me. I'm not racist or prejudice. When I meet someone, I don't judge them. However I do prejudge situations. If I see a cop drinking, I'm indeed going to prejudge him, and get out of there. If I see 5 people walking down the street staring at me, I'm going to prejudge them and mentally prepare myself for a fight. It has nothing to do with who the people are, it has to do with the situation. If I see a cop just standing around, I'm not going to think ill of him, just as I wont think ill of those 5 people if they aren't staring at me. You say I don't think objectively, but that's exactly what I do. Frankly if you're this quick to (subtly) call me prejudice then I wouldn't want to see you called for jury duty either.

You mean while off duty I presume. I stand corrected then. Thanks. I doubt it's a change in laws since you heard it. Maybe they've changed since I heard it though. :laugh:

What happens when you called them because your dad was beating your mom, but all they did was take a report and leave? No action was taken. He wouldn't trust the word of a 12 year old, and my mom would say anything bad against my dad.

Im not saying all cops are bad, far from it. But in my experience, nothing good ever comes from them getting involved. And that just comes with the territory, they are never called for anything but bad news. Then again, I don't hate cops, I just don't trust them.

Oh, I'll call the police, but that doesn't I need to change my opinion of them. Maybe that cop, but not all. A helping hand is a helping hand. Maybe I'm a hypocrite, but I admit it.

I didn't say you were racist or prejudiced.

You presumed this crime was racist....simple fact. You prejudged based on feelings and not on facts.

That is all

But that's exactly what I'm arguing!

I'm saying that not all cops are bad like some people in this thread are making them out to be!

That's exactly what I'm saying!

Of course there are some bad cops, this thread is an example of a bad cop, but I really don't like it when people just go cop bashing just to bash

Clearly you've never called the cops because a bunch of strangers are lurking around your neighbors property when there have been many thefts in the area, only to tell you unless they are acutally walking around with stolen things they aren't coming.

Or singled out someone from your group of friends, who was being completely cooperative and throwing them around because they happen to be native.

I hope that the cop is fully investigated. Not what happens around here, where a cop does something and gets put on paid leave for years as his friends from the station "investigate him".

It doesn't make much sense to have a general prejudice about all, or most, cops. They're trained and committed to serve and protect, and that's what most of them are going to do for you. They take a bullet for you if they have to. There are a few bad cops, sure. Obviously we have one in this article. And I don't think Hollywood has been much help with the image of cops. There are more good cops than bad ones, and that's a friggin fact. If we didn't have cops at all, most of us wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation.

Nope, you didn't say it, you subtly said it by saying you wouldn't want me serving jury duty. Now, I do indeed have a feeling that this was fueled by a mix of booze and racism. But what you don't seem to understand is that I don't operate on gut feelings 24/7, nor do I think objectively 24/7. You seem to think that me having a feeling on this one incident means that all I do is operate on feelings. That is not the case, but you don't seem to understand that.

Lets not over exaggerate.

A double edged sword

You don't know what they were doing and if per chance they were just hanging around and they got arrested and you'd hear about it you'd say "dirty cops arrested someone for no good reason, those kids were just hanging around the neighborhood doing nothing wrong"


Oh trust me I've been singled out many times by cops but I know how to avoid being thrown around because I don't allow myself to be in that situation

I've also had friends in that situation where they've been singled out but they know to avoid being thrown around as well

And hopefully I'm never in the situation where they are able to throw me or a friend around

And again I'm not arguing "all cops are good" I'm arguing not all cops are bad as many people in this thread are insinuating

I don't work in absolutes because it's a mistake to do so

Cuz it's the internet, it's so hard to get to know each other!
You gotta stop throwing up those barriers & layers, onion boy. Let us in! :mellow:


Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Ok, I'm obviously not gonna change how you feel about it.

Personally, I just like to go on facts and not assumptions.

I was wondering where I heard that from :laugh:

He'd never admit if it was fueled by race, and seeing as how he declined a Breathalyzer, we won't if he was drunk. Seeing as how the victim cannot speak for himself, we'd have to believe the cop had to shoot him. We have to presume that he didn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpytjlW5wU

This.