ALTHOUGH this is basically a different company, I think in NV when you buy your own house (which I don't doubt that you can) you should be given ways to upgrade it like in Oblivion. When you bought the Skingrad house, it was useless, with no tables or boxes or anything, no beds and stands. You bought these papers pretty much across the street, and they automatically were placed in your house. Spend 25k on a house, then 25k upgrading it. In Fallout 3 you had a simple house that you could ONLY change the theme (which was basically useless) and add about five items like the Nuka Cola machine, or the Chemistry lab. I want it in NV where you might have to do a quest to get your house, but it's not mandatory. The thing I would really like would be getting the house with basically NOTHING in it except a bed and a toilet or something. Then, you can upgrade it, maybe giving you a better bed (+health maybe after sleeping a couple of hours?) and a better sink giving you less thirst. You would basically buy stands, bookcases, and safes as you please. An extreme bonus, though I doubt it will happen, is if you can change the way everything is set up. By that, I mean you can change where a table or chair is placed, or change the position of the bed or something along those lines. We don't need it, though it might be cool.

BATHROOM:
Basically added in hardcoe mode. You have to use the toilet every six hours (for balance) or something. If you eat, it increases the amount. Though it may seem TOO hardcoe (I guess?), I'm only thinking of this because of the toilets and how you DRANK OUT OF THEM. When I first played FO:3 I was thinking, "Hmph, maybe I can go to the bathroom?" BUT NO. MY SICK [censored] OF A CHARACTER DRANK DIRTY, IRRADIATED TOILET WATER. WHAT THE HELL? I would have puked IRL.

Anyways thanks for reading this, please comment if you like the idea. I'm pretty sure most people would agree on the upgrading your house and stuff.

Also here's a link to my GIVE option idea:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1110470-give-option/
Read it, if you could. It seems well-received.

We should also be able to distill our dung and pee to get clean drinking water after doing our business. Or risk a disease consuming them without percautions. Right?

As I said in your other thread:

THIS IDEA IS AMAZING!!!!!

and for the toilet:

If you dont use the toilet enough, you have an accident Maybe you lose sme of your stats for a short time.

You ated a 200 year old Salisbury Steak, you suddenly feel your bowels need to evacuate, you attempt to get to the toilet, but you failed to make it and took a dump in your pants. -3 Charisma.

I'm not quite getting you here. I mean, I know it's a post-apocalyptic wasteland, but we can't flush? The sinks work.. But, of course, if it follows the lore/setting, then it would be a good idea. I'll add that to the main post and credit you.


Thanks. That's also something I forgot to add. Maybe you lose stats like agility. I'll have to think of it.

Dude, it was a joke.

coprophilia mate

Oh. Sorry, guess I'm not quite working correctly this morning. But nonetheless good idea? If we don't clean the toilet every once in a while we can't use it, and if you try to drink from it when it's not clean (useful for when there is a non-working sink in the facility) you might take damage.

Don't you think that having the player need to use the facilities a bit much?

Yeah, as much as it's supposed to be a sim, that's laying it on a bit thick... But distilling urine is doable. Don't ask me how I know, but it is.

Plus I like the idea of buying my own house... as long as there's an Imperial Waterfront type option for people like me who don't want to spend a heck of a lot on fancy storage space. Or maybe an incredibly basic house/tent gained through the main quest, with only a bed and no customisation options.

Hmm there is more things from oblivion they should use. like the armoring system , boots,gloves and stuff even rings and necklaces.
But for the housing i agree whit ya.

You actually took my post seriously? I didnt even take my post seriously. :laugh:

Next up in fallout 4, clipping nails and shaving both upstairs and downstairs.
For female characters there's also a make-up minigame.
<_<
Pre-order the special edition and you get a "wipe your ass" minigame after taking a dump as well.

Basically no to the toilet idea.
No forever.

Don't forget marriages, divorce, and child support. Pre-Order F4 and get the exclusive Lose half of your assets package. :laugh:

*ugh* I knew someone would do this. The thing is, I don't want FO:NV to be a Sim game, and by adding this, it shouldn't. It's just that.. you have to eat and drink.. and drink out of toilets. It just gives you an idea that going to the bathroom would be a good addition to the hardcoe mode. But seriously here. Why would you automatically assume that if this is added things would turn into a sim game with those minigames? Iknow, it's obviously sarcastic.. but it's a little too much sarcasm. One thing though: It wont turn it into a extreme social game. It's in hardcoe mode only, and it seems fitting. More options to the house. Also, could you tell me if you like the house idea?

But its "hardcoe" right?

In real life, if you dont make it to the toilet you have an accident. Same if you dont eat and drink, you die.

hardcoe is meant to be somewhat realistic. Relieveing oneself is something ALL humans must do.

You seriously feel that you need to go to the bathroom in a game? You seriously want to roleplay taking a dump?

I can accept eating and drinking but taking a dump/piss is something I really don't want to see in fallout. It doesn't turn it into Sims but it's still an unnecessary feature IMO.
Just can't see it as a good addition to a fallout game.

And the house idea?
Good?
I dunno, don't care about the house, I just unload all unique weapons that I cannot for the life of me leave or sell away in a box in there.

So is blinking and breathing, but some things should just be assumed automatically done, and not left up to the player to push a button to do said task.

Wait... so everybody poops?

As much as it's an idea, it's really just not right. It'd completely screw up the immersion, as the only game I've ever played which allowed me to go to the toilet was Heavy Rain - and that wasn't set in the Mojave Desert.

Leisure Suit Larry allowed me to go pee in a few places! But you'd expect that sort of thing in that game. But not Fallout.

If I saw this message pop up on screen I would die. Hilarious!

The minus 3 charisma would be most suitable. Imagine talking to a NPC and during the middle of his/her dialogue they stop and say, "What's that god-awful smell?" In this case you're given a choice of replies. Ex. "I stepped in brahmin dung...". If the NPC doesn't believe you then your charisma is too low and therefore caught in a lie. The NPC walks off in disgust and you miss out on critical information until you change your pants.

your charisma and agility should go down lol.

I'm pretty sure the reason people play videogames is because they're better than real life. If you had to go through the daily minutia of real life, it wouldn't be any fun at all. Even in The Sims, you're getting promotions every couple days and are able to build an amazing house with a pool, a basketball court, and an arcade. You never have to shop for groceries and can learn skills in a matter of seconds. It's all about the un-realism. Having to go to the bathroom is going way, way, way, way, way too far.

As for the Oblivion style housing, spot on :tops:

I THOUGHT this would be a good idea, but I guess not. I don't see what's so... hard... or annoying about just clicking a toilet. Since what you've all said, I'm not even sure if I want it now. I still think it would make a nice, small edition, but whatever. Main thing is the housing. So bland in FO:3. So livid in Oblivion. Also quest-related to the house, anyone? Like Skingrad's treasure?