Is Old World Blues Bacically FNV's Area 51 dlc?

Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:42 am

Niether are punks with green mohawks, everything does not revolve around the 50's especially when the 50's mindset stopped being relevant to the people in the wasteland 200 years ago.

If the game is suposed to be about only American 1950s mind set like soooooooooo many people on this board say it would have been way better to call the big empty area 51.

All of you that say no big deal about area 51 better not say " FO wouldn t be fo in another country. fo is about 1950s americano pop culture.


Well area 51 is it. So we are all in agreement then that there is no reason for fo to only be in America. If we are going to skip one of the greatest sci fi icons America has then we might as well move the game abroad as well.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:11 am

If you think that Area 51 was all about secret/crazy scientific experiments, then (I think) this is probably the closest you're going to get to "an Area 51" location. Kind of like how some people griped about not having a casino heist - we got one, but it wasn't quite what anybody was expecting in a heist.

If you want aliens, take the Wild Wasteland trait on a new character and go explore the northern edge of the NV map.

Dig up a quote where I said I wanted aliens.

Aliens are a major part of 1950s America anyway, but pull up a quote from any area 51 topic that I say I want aliens
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:52 am

If the game is suposed to be about only American 1950s mind set like soooooooooo many people on this board say it would have been way better to call the big empty area 51.

All of you that say no big deal about area 51 better not say " FO wouldn t be fo in another country. fo is about 1950s americano pop culture.


Well area 51 is it. So we are all in agreement then that there is no reason for fo to only be in America. If we are going to skip one of the greatest sci fi icons America has then we might as well move the game abroad as well.

Whatever Rook. The pre-war world was based of the 50's interpretation of what the future would be, the post one isn't. Saying that Area 51 belongs in New Vegas because it was big in the 50's is just a silly statement IMO; it would probably be interesting to see what it was like, it would be like OWB but about planes instead of brains. But just because it was big in the fifties doesn;t mean that Obsidian has missed the boat, it just means that they didn't want it because of it's automatic ties to aliens, which have already been showcased in previous DLCs.

It was is a shady military base, so have been a lot of places in Fallout.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:29 am

Wait did someone say they fail to see how area 51 would be interesting in a game supposed to be about 1950s american mind set?

Area 51 is 1950s American mind set. It has more documentaries than the JFK assassination. Its all about conspiracy and speculation sci fi, war, being better than the other guy. It is in the top 3 or 5 things of wonder in the U.S. What is in there? The United States goverment will shoot you dead if you try too hard to find out.


And don t give me the too far bull [censored] again you can not run from Vegas to the boarder of cali in 10mins. If they would have moved the map north 2 inches it would be there.

They could have had a field day with the place.

We just went to Utah, but area 51 is too far? Give me a break.... Seriously........ too far.


I assumed you meant the base game. On the base map, it simply doesn't fit in the scale. The distance between Vegas and Area 51 is about the same (probably more) distance between the top of the map and the bottom. If they wanted to keep a semblance of a somewhat believable scale, they would have to double the map size. For a DLC, it is doable, yes. And no, Area 51 is not 50s pop-culture. It has been part of our pop-culture since the late 80s, not 50s. I'm sure there might have been some conspiracy theories about it in the 50s, but I am pretty sure it wasn't a popular idea back then.

It just seems like a misstep to ignore such a huge icon in the US. A lot of stores in Nevada even sell Area 51 merchandise and references to it are everywhere you look. It's become a major part of Nevada's culture.

I still don't see it as a reason to have it the game. :shrug:
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:20 am

From the second people started seeinb wierd space craft flying around that place until now it has been top 3 - 5 biggest wonders in this country. There is figured to be way more going on there than just air planes and space ships.

They blew a top 5 place of wonder in America plain as day.

I d rather go see what is going on in China or London, but everytime the subject is brought up its an avalanche of "Fo is only about 1950s America and nothing else" "It would not be fo if it was not in america because of the 1950s american mind set and the commies.

AREA 51 WAS BUILT TO BE BETTER THAN THE COMMIES.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:43 am

I assumed you meant the base game. On the base map, it simply doesn't fit in the scale. The distance between Vegas and Area 51 is about the same (probably more) distance between the top of the map and the bottom. If they wanted to keep a semblance of a somewhat believable scale, they would have to double the map size. For a DLC, it is doable, yes. And no, Area 51 is not 50s pop-culture. It has been part of our pop-culture since the late 80s, not 50s. I'm sure there might have been some conspiracy theories about it in the 50s, but I am pretty sure it wasn't a popular idea back then.


I still don't see it as a reason to have it the game. :shrug:

all they need to do is add a cave that leads to that area like with honest hearts easy as pie
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:09 am

From the second people started seeinb wierd space craft flying around that place until now it has been top 3 - 5 biggest wonders in this country. There is figured to be way more going on there than just air planes and space ships.

They blew a top 5 place of wonder in America plain as day.

I d rather go see what is going on in China or London, but everytime the subject is brought up its an avalanche of "Fo is only about 1950s America and nothing else" "It would not be fo if it was not in america because of the 1950s american mind set and the commies.

AREA 51 WAS BUILT TO BE BETTER THAN THE COMMIES.


Regardless of Area 51 existing in the 50s and conspiracy theories existing about it, as I've said before, it isn't an object of 50s culture. I don't see the 50s theme as a good argument for content in Area 51.

It's not necessarily just 50s (though it clearly has a big influence), it's just Americana is a big theme in the series. Also, a lot of the things that are more iconic in the Fallout series (like Vaults) wouldn't exist in those places. I too would like to know about what has been happening in those areas, just not firsthand in a game. Perhaps much later when Fallout has gotten really stale.

all they need to do is add a cave that leads to that area like with honest hearts easy as pie


As I've said, it is doable as a DLC, I'm not denying that.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:25 am

Dig up a quote where I said I wanted aliens.

Aliens are a major part of 1950s America anyway, but pull up a quote from any area 51 topic that I say I want aliens


Chill.

I added that because people want Area 51 for one of two reasons and aliens are one of those reasons. Don't know why you took that as a personal attack - it wasn't.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:52 am

OWB will not be taking place at Area 51, it's just a research facility for sickie scientists who call themselves 'think tanks.' Besides twice now Bethesda has said this location will be the easiest to access, and that it's on the regular Mojave map. Since that is the case it's far too close to Vegas to be Area 51. Area 51 might be a place of "mystery" in the real world, but in the Fallout world it may not even exist.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:01 am

all they need to do is add a cave that leads to that area like with honest hearts easy as pie


Define EASY
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:36 am

As I said before, it just doesn't fit with the scale. And it has nothing to do with the 50s culture themes, Area 51 is a fairly recent pop-culture figure (past 25 years or so)

What do you mean doesn't fit in the scale ?And i think if done right it would be a party in my pants.Like say theres a friendly alien waiting there for some one to help them with there war against another race on there planet for resources and you can help either side or go for a more democratic route and it would be moral choice that everything fallout seems to have .I think the basics of what i said would works.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:25 am

I wonder if they will do a Area 51 dlc after they have finished Lonesome Road, would be nice. Even it is just to download some tech info to take back to the brotherhood, ncr, and legion. Plus seeing aliens again would be nice, the ones with the wild wasteland perk made no sense.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:31 am

I wish they do a Area 51 DLC ... as in, ITS A CRATER.

... Problem solved ...
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Post » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:55 pm

I really have no idea why some people are opposed to the idea of Area 51.

You can have a good science fiction story and experience you know based on the stories of Area 51. The same people who dismiss Area 51 are the same people who think being strapped with a bomb collar at an old Casino and having it explode constantly by radios and dealing with "ghost people" is brilliant.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:23 am

I really have no idea why some people are opposed to the idea of Area 51.


Because it have been done to death?

You can have a good science fiction story and experience you know based on the stories of Area 51.


No, you cannot because in the end what Area 51 ends up being about is Roswell Aliens and that been done before.

I will go out on a limb and say the ONLY reason people want Area 51 is the Aliens, not because it have "good science fiction" because it does not.

The same people who dismiss Area 51 are the same people who think being strapped with a bomb collar at an old Casino and having it explode constantly by radios and dealing with "ghost people" is brilliant.


Nice straw-man ...and also missing the point of Dead Money.
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Post » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:12 pm


No, you cannot because in the end what Area 51 ends up being about is Roswell Aliens and that been done before.



Very close-minded. You can have the Enclave running the place, F.E.V. rejects raising hell, Secrets into Alien intentions, technology, etc. The possibilities are endless.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:49 am

Very close-minded.


I am saying what Area 51 is know for ... now lets see.

You can have the Enclave running the place,


AGAIN?
*I* am close-minded but apparently recycling the Enclave for the THIRD TIME is the peak of originality.

F.E.V. rejects raising hell,


And speaking of recycling ...

Secrets into Alien intentions, technology, etc. The possibilities are endless.


And here we go ... back to Aliens, thank you for proving my point.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:27 am

Honestly, I hope it isn't. I'd rather deal with a new-er area. Area 51 has been done in so many games it's just lost it's luster for games IMO.
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Post » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:11 pm

area 51 is as big of a mystery as the jfk assassination. Speculation, conspiracy theories. They are close to the same level.

For a game thats supposed to be only about American 1950s (so most people on here say) they are missing 1950s America big [censored] time by not doing something with area 51.

I live here I know whats big time and whats not, and area 51 is one of the biggest famous mysterious speculative conspiracy theorists dreams. From when it was first noticed until now.

Area 51 needed to be in this game. Even if it was destroyed.....


But the supposed crash landing of a UFO in Roswell, New Mexico happened in 1947...
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:05 am

What do you mean doesn't fit in the scale ?And i think if done right it would be a party in my pants.Like say theres a friendly alien waiting there for some one to help them with there war against another race on there planet for resources and you can help either side or go for a more democratic route and it would be moral choice that everything fallout seems to have .I think the basics of what i said would works.


I elaborated that while it is doable for DLC, it wouldn't fit in the base game which is what Rook was suggesting.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:44 am

To be honest Area 51 is the worlds worst secret base... Odds are it would have been nuked, and nuked hard :( .
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Post » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:26 pm

Define EASY

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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:48 am

Area 51 does not need to be a landmark in a video game. Besides, the devs are doing a fantastic job making stuff up. Now the matter of geography. Groom Lake, NV is about fifty miles NNW of North Las Vegas. Nipton is about half that distance to the south, and the Utah border is about that same distance to the East. That's reality, but the devs can write whatever they feel like. The Fallout Universe is very loosely based upon the real world, and you all should try to remember that before you start getting upset at each other. I don't care what the enemies are, just so long as there is something new in the dlc.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:15 am

What would be awesome is if they included area 51 but there was nothing there. You find out it is just a crappy old base with absolutely no secrets whatsoever. That'd be hilarious.
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Post » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:27 am

What would be awesome is if they included area 51 but there was nothing there. You find out it is just a crappy old base with absolutely no secrets whatsoever. That'd be hilarious.

Shhh! You'll give away the biggest secret of all :ninja: , that there is no secret :eek: . Oops!
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